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Old 02-07-2013, 09:56 AM   #1
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College Baseball Playoffs?

I would love a customize able playoff option to include the format of the college baseball playoffs.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:40 PM   #2
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Same here. I do wonder if the way playoffs work might need to be substantially rewritten to allow it though (although only Markus really knows that).
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:17 PM   #3
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<jimmora>PLAYOFFS?</jimmora>
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:17 PM   #4
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Agree 1000%.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:10 AM   #5
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I would certainly love double elimination tournaments like the College WS.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:38 AM   #6
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Not to mention that the standings for college baseball should be able to show just the standings from 'division' games only (i.e. real-world equivalent conference standings) or the team's overall standings (from all games played, including post-season games).

It should be noted too that in U.S. college baseball the conference playoffs are based on the conference standings, not the overall record.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:13 AM   #7
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Would also like to see this +1
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:18 PM   #8
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I would love for this to be in the game. Heck I would love for there to be a "college" mode in this game. Where you have to go and recruit players for your team. It would be awesome to to be able to follow a player that you recruited and watch him get drafted and work his way through the minors and make it to the big leagues. I would love to be able to rebuild a college baseball program. Man now I wish there was a college baseball game out there to play.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:49 PM   #9
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Boys,
I initiated a thread on this for OOTP5. I wanted then, and still want now, then ability to manually mold the Playoffs as you go. Specifically for the College game. Where once the regular season is ended, you have the ability to hold each conference's tournaments by manually matching up the games however each conference runs their specific tournament (because many of them run them very differently!). Once conference tourneys are over, guess who would be the Judge and Jury of the Selection Committee? Me! Yup, I would personally take the time to rank all teams 1-64 and pair them up into each Regional for a double-elim. I would have already made a bracket like college does to where each Regional winner would then go to a Super-Regional against one of the other Regional winners in a 2 out of 3 matchup. The 8 winners of the super-Regionals make the College World Series and are then broken into the two 4 team pairings for another double-elim to see who plays each other in the best of 3 Final Series!!!

This tournament is as good as the basketball tournament the way it is formatted. And since they have taken a chunk of the punch out of the metal bats, it is even better than in the past. Less Little League-like scores.

I actually even created a small version with three major College conferences, SEC, ACC and PAC 10 (back then). I did what I wanted and manually created games after the season, BUT they all had to be EXHIBITION, therefore did not count within the game's history. That part sucked. I had to keep track of every game on paper, and the fatigue's or injuries never came into play.

Anyway, That is a long way for me to pile on and agree, HOWEVER, I don't need the game to have the college playoff format built in as long as I am able to "build" it myself as I go, as it progresses into the conference tourneys, then into the 64 team bracket. In fact, I would RATHER build it myself. As crazy as that sounds, that is a big part of the fun.

It has been a long time since I bought this game because I had been hoping it would be addressed.

Also, I don't know if in the present game there is an RPI stat. I'm sure most are familiar with team's RPI. It takes into account your winning pct, your opponent's winning pct, and your opponent's opponent's winning pct. Having that stat would be a nice compliment to any league. But it would be very helpful in determining who makes the 64 team tourney.

Please bring us the ability to at least manually manipulate playoffs how we want them to be...
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:17 PM   #10
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Do not want. And I have college feeder leagues.

This is another sideshow issue.
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According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 02-17-2013, 05:42 PM   #11
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I initiated a thread on this for OOTP5. I wanted then, and still want now, then ability to manually mold the Playoffs as you go. Specifically for the College game. Where once the regular season is ended, you have the ability to hold each conference's tournaments by manually matching up the games however each conference runs their specific tournament (because many of them run them very differently!). Once conference tourneys are over, guess who would be the Judge and Jury of the Selection Committee? Me! Yup, I would personally take the time to rank all teams 1-64 and pair them up into each Regional for a double-elim. I would have already made a bracket like college does to where each Regional winner would then go to a Super-Regional against one of the other Regional winners in a 2 out of 3 matchup. The 8 winners of the super-Regionals make the College World Series and are then broken into the two 4 team pairings for another double-elim to see who plays each other in the best of 3 Final Series!!!

This tournament is as good as the basketball tournament the way it is formatted. And since they have taken a chunk of the punch out of the metal bats, it is even better than in the past. Less Little League-like scores.

I actually even created a small version with three major College conferences, SEC, ACC and PAC 10 (back then). I did what I wanted and manually created games after the season, BUT they all had to be EXHIBITION, therefore did not count within the game's history. That part sucked. I had to keep track of every game on paper, and the fatigue's or injuries never came into play.

Anyway, That is a long way for me to pile on and agree, HOWEVER, I don't need the game to have the college playoff format built in as long as I am able to "build" it myself as I go, as it progresses into the conference tourneys, then into the 64 team bracket. In fact, I would RATHER build it myself. As crazy as that sounds, that is a big part of the fun.

It has been a long time since I bought this game because I had been hoping it would be addressed.

Also, I don't know if in the present game there is an RPI stat. I'm sure most are familiar with team's RPI. It takes into account your winning pct, your opponent's winning pct, and your opponent's opponent's winning pct. Having that stat would be a nice compliment to any league. But it would be very helpful in determining who makes the 64 team tourney.

Please bring us the ability to at least manually manipulate playoffs how we want them to be...
No RPI, though there is that power index thing that comes out weekly, but I have no clue how that is figured.

Can't you manually schedule playoff games now? Or am I thinking of extra regular season games before advancing to the playoffs?
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:49 PM   #12
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Do not want. And I have college feeder leagues.

This is another sideshow issue.
Its not really a sideshow issue if you are playing as a college team.
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Its not really a sideshow issue if you are playing as a college team.
Playing as a college team is a sideshow issue.
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Playing as a college team is a sideshow issue.
I guess playing as a college team is a sideshow issue for you but not to other people. Just like playing as a team based in 1945 is considered a sideshow for some people.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:55 PM   #15
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I don't mean to put words in The Wolf's mouth, but I think he means that college baseball is a playstyle which appeals to a small enough minority that it may not be worth Markus' programming time, in terms of additional sales generated, in comparison with historical play, for example.

Which doesn't mean he's right, unless/until Markus says so.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:25 PM   #16
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Just watched the reigning national champion Arizona Wildcats baseball team sweep Coppin state. Would love to see this in OOTP. Definitely not a sideshow for me!
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:32 PM   #17
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Playing as a college team is a sideshow issue.
Hey now; it's his game, let him play it his way.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:45 AM   #18
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The main aspect to college playoffs is the double-elimination format, primarily the four-team and six-team versions. (An eight-team version can be done by using two four-team brackets like the College World Series uses.)

If the above can be added, then the vast majority of it is covered.

(If feeder leagues by default could have separate listings for division record and overall record [which would include post-season games], and the division playoff qualifiers determined by division record rather than overall record, then it would be almost perfect, and more than good enough.)
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:22 AM   #19
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I don't mean to put words in The Wolf's mouth, but I think he means that college baseball is a playstyle which appeals to a small enough minority that it may not be worth Markus' programming time, in terms of additional sales generated, in comparison with historical play, for example.
Pretty much. This is a tiny little niche issue. The game still doesn't have the MLB down properly, and little niche stuff like this and promotion/relegation require a lot of work for little return and would only ever be used by a relative handful of people.

The programming time should logically be spent instead on something that most people would actually use.
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In other words, this just wouldn't add enough to the gameplay relative to the time it would take to code.
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