NOBL Changes Face of Coaching

Red Blow · 01-19-2003, 10:53 PM

The NOBL has started an experiment with the game's coaches and managers. Each team was allowed to "purchase" a talent level for one of their staff members this season. The cost was as follows:

Average..............$300,000
Above Average...$600,000
Good...................$900,000
Very Good........$1,200,000
Excellent..........$1,500,000
BRILLIANT........$1,800,000

Many league members complained that since they joined the league at different times they were not able to bid on the coaches they wanted and were stuck with what the computer or previous owner has acquired... and for several years. While at first I thought, well, tough... that is supply and demand. After a few IMs with a persistant owner we came upon the following idea.

Instead of looking at the dollar amount as a salary, look at it as a budget. The figure represents how much money the parent ballclub is spending on not only managers and coaches, but facilities, equipment, travel, trainers, dieticians, etc. The more you spend the more benefits you get (in the perfect world that the NOBL is, anyway).

The plan is to purchase one coach/manager this season, another one or two next season, then switch over to it for all coaches and managers.

I was wondering if any other leagues out there were doing something similar to this. If so, what are problems (if any) that have arisen? A few feel that if everyone goes for V-Good to BRILLIANT coaches/managers the young ones will develop too much and we will end up with an all-star league. I'm hesitant to accept that, but it is a valid concern.

darkhorse · 01-19-2003, 11:39 PM

I would pay more than 1.8 M for a Brilliant pitching coach. Buying and altering a coaches ratings sounds as questionable as doing the same with a player, not something I would want to be party to.

Red Blow · 01-20-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
I would pay more than 1.8 M for a Brilliant pitching coach. Buying and altering a coaches ratings sounds as questionable as doing the same with a player, not something I would want to be party to.

There is a tremendous difference in the two. Editing players, who develop over time, is a delicate situation. Editing coaches (openly), so that teams going through rebuilding can focus their money on the development of their youth is something else entirely.

If you would pay more than $1.8 that's great. We used the payscale above since that is about what those coaches had been signed for in the league. The attempt was to simulated a market-driven salary since the benefits would be the same.

I appreciate the feedback, even if it is OPS driven.

darkhorse · 01-20-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Red Blow
There is a tremendous difference in the two. Editing players, who develop over time, is a delicate situation. Editing coaches (openly), so that teams going through rebuilding can focus their money on the development of their youth is something else entirely.

What's the difference? WIth each you get an artificial gain through dubious means. For 10.8 Million, 6 staff x 1.8 million each to purchase their Brilliant rating, every team that is paying attention will acquire a perfect staff. Does this sound normal? Plausible? Does it help the teams who are rebuilding for everyone to have a perfect staff. Sounds like your league should play with coaches/staff turned off if the GM's can't handle a normal distribution of coaching talent.

If you would pay more than $1.8 that's great. We used the payscale above since that is about what those coaches had been signed for in the league. The attempt was to simulated a market-driven salary since the benefits would be the same.

I appreciate the feedback, even if it is OPS driven. [/QUOTE]

Opinion Pure and Simple

Red Blow · 01-20-2003, 08:18 AM

artificial and dubious

Thanks for the attack, darkhorse.

darkhorse · 01-20-2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Red Blow
artificial and dubious

Thanks for the attack, darkhorse.

Attack? Opinion equals attack?

So you don't agree that every team in the league being able to buy a perfect staff isn't artificial? Fair enough. Difference of opinion. No big deal. I doubt your fine league will go the way of the GWRBI because I feel differently.

01-19-2003, 10:53 PM	#1
Red Blow Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 404	NOBL Changes Face of Coaching The NOBL has started an experiment with the game's coaches and managers. Each team was allowed to "purchase" a talent level for one of their staff members this season. The cost was as follows: Average..............$300,000 Above Average...$600,000 Good...................$900,000 Very Good........$1,200,000 Excellent..........$1,500,000 BRILLIANT........$1,800,000 Many league members complained that since they joined the league at different times they were not able to bid on the coaches they wanted and were stuck with what the computer or previous owner has acquired... and for several years. While at first I thought, well, tough... that is supply and demand. After a few IMs with a persistant owner we came upon the following idea. Instead of looking at the dollar amount as a salary, look at it as a budget. The figure represents how much money the parent ballclub is spending on not only managers and coaches, but facilities, equipment, travel, trainers, dieticians, etc. The more you spend the more benefits you get (in the perfect world that the NOBL is, anyway). The plan is to purchase one coach/manager this season, another one or two next season, then switch over to it for all coaches and managers. I was wondering if any other leagues out there were doing something similar to this. If so, what are problems (if any) that have arisen? A few feel that if everyone goes for V-Good to BRILLIANT coaches/managers the young ones will develop too much and we will end up with an all-star league. I'm hesitant to accept that, but it is a valid concern. __________________ http://www.nobl.net This is your father's league.

01-19-2003, 11:39 PM	#2
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	I would pay more than 1.8 M for a Brilliant pitching coach. Buying and altering a coaches ratings sounds as questionable as doing the same with a player, not something I would want to be party to. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

01-20-2003, 08:18 AM	#5
Red Blow Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 404	artificial and dubious Thanks for the attack, darkhorse. __________________ http://www.nobl.net This is your father's league.