Types of Relievers

Claystone · 08-11-2011, 12:45 AM

What is the differents with these types of relievers and what time in the game would i used them? I'm trying to set my pitchers depth chart, but I have no idea where a reliever would go.

Middle Reliever
Setup Reliever
Mop-Up Reliever

Thanks

edm · 08-11-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Claystone

What is the differents with these types of relievers and what time in the game would i used them? I'm trying to set my pitchers depth chart, but I have no idea where a reliever would go.

Middle Reliever
Setup Reliever
Mop-Up Reliever

Thanks

Hi Claystone.

Closer - Usually your best relief pitcher. Does not need a lot of stamina.

Setup Reliever - Your next best one or two relievers, after the closer. Again, stamina is not that important. And if you are using two setup guys, it a good idea to have one left hander and one right hander. But not necessary.

Middle Reliever - Usually your 4th/5th rated relievers. Doesnt hurt to have at least one middle reliever with a stamina rating higher than 1.

Mop-Up Reliever - The lowest guy on the totem pole. Not quite good enough to be the 5th starter. And not good enough to trust in an important spot. They usually only pitch in a blow out game or when no one else is available. It does help to have a pitcher with decent stamina as well. at least a 2 to 3 rating.

Chicagofan76 · 08-11-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by edm

Hi Claystone.
Mop-Up Reliever - The lowest guy on the totem pole. Not quite good enough to be the 5th starter. And not good enough to trust in an important spot. They usually only pitch in a blow out game or when no one else is available. It does help to have a pitcher with decent stamina as well. at least a 2 to 3 rating.

Also my "Doghouse Guy". He could have previously been the best reliever but has an inflated ERA and for the time being, he can't seem to get anyone out. On My Chicago Fire team see below. Used to be my best setup lefty specialist.

rudoggy · 08-11-2011, 10:33 AM

I also just started a thread on a similar topic. I realize what the name implies for the different BP roles, but do they actually mean anything to AI. I see Setup man used before mid relief guys all the time.

TPinrose · 08-11-2011, 12:00 PM

For me, mop up is usually a 6th starter I keep around for depth.

Rizon · 08-11-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

Also my "Doghouse Guy". He could have previously been the best reliever but has an inflated ERA and for the time being, he can't seem to get anyone out. On My Chicago Fire team see below. Used to be my best setup lefty specialist.

Walks/control do not appear to be this guys friend

5.49 BB/9 over the previous 3 years. Yeow.

luger · 08-11-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Walks/control do not appear to be this guys friend

5.49 BB/9 over the previous 3 years. Yeow.

Ouch. And, the one good year he had was inflated by the tiniest BABIP I've ever seen.

Chicagofan76 · 08-11-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Walks/control do not appear to be this guys friend

5.49 BB/9 over the previous 3 years. Yeow.

The year I traded for him he was 2-2 3.30 43.2IP 60K 23BB . He has steadily declined since i got him and now makes 9.8 mil which is way too much for a bad specialist. This is his FA yr. I'll let someone else deal with him.

heres his full career

EKomrska15 · 08-11-2011, 03:14 PM

What I usually do is my 2nd setup guy is also my #1 middle reliever.

Other than that not much I can say differently then what people do.

snepp · 08-11-2011, 04:22 PM

The "closer" is often my 2nd best reliever. My best reliever gets placed in multiple slots to maximize his usage, depending upon endurance, usually something like MR2/SU1. This generally leads to seasons of 75ish appearances with over 100 innings.

Or if I have two similar relievers, I'll split the "closer" role between them. The one with higher endurance gets placed in a combo of MR/CL, the other gets SU/CL.

I'm not much of a fan of the "closer" role as it exists today.

Chicagofan76 · 08-11-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp

The "closer" is often my 2nd best reliever. My best reliever gets placed in multiple slots to maximize his usage, depending upon endurance, usually something like MR2/SU1. This generally leads to seasons of 75ish appearances with over 100 innings.

Or if I have two similar relievers, I'll split the "closer" role between them. The one with higher endurance gets placed in a combo of MR/CL, the other gets SU/CL.

I'm not much of a fan of the "closer" role as it exists today.

In 1 of my leagues I had a "Closer By Committee" no one had more then 10 saves but 3 guys had 10 1 guy had 76 and the last guy had 5. all 5 pitchers pitched in 50+ games with the top guy pitching in 112 of 154 games but he only had 91IP. My starters were terrible. 3 of my relievers had more wins then all of my SP.

0-2, 2 BB · 08-11-2011, 05:44 PM

I play all of my games out, every pitch. I don't use roles, but instead I use matchups and hot/cold streaks.

I have 7 pitchers with 2 or more saves and 2 pitchers with 10+.

08-11-2011, 05:44 PM	#12
0-2, 2 BB Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Road. Posts: 88	I play all of my games out, every pitch. I don't use roles, but instead I use matchups and hot/cold streaks. I have 7 pitchers with 2 or more saves and 2 pitchers with 10+. __________________ Hide your power alleys; Hide your wife.

08-11-2011, 12:45 AM	#1
Claystone Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 45	Types of Relievers What is the differents with these types of relievers and what time in the game would i used them? I'm trying to set my pitchers depth chart, but I have no idea where a reliever would go. Middle Reliever Setup Reliever Mop-Up Reliever Thanks

08-11-2011, 10:33 AM	#4
rudoggy Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 430	I also just started a thread on a similar topic. I realize what the name implies for the different BP roles, but do they actually mean anything to AI. I see Setup man used before mid relief guys all the time.

08-11-2011, 12:00 PM	#5
TPinrose Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 199	For me, mop up is usually a 6th starter I keep around for depth.

08-11-2011, 03:14 PM	#9
EKomrska15 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,529	What I usually do is my 2nd setup guy is also my #1 middle reliever. Other than that not much I can say differently then what people do.

08-11-2011, 04:22 PM	#10
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,459	The "closer" is often my 2nd best reliever. My best reliever gets placed in multiple slots to maximize his usage, depending upon endurance, usually something like MR2/SU1. This generally leads to seasons of 75ish appearances with over 100 innings. Or if I have two similar relievers, I'll split the "closer" role between them. The one with higher endurance gets placed in a combo of MR/CL, the other gets SU/CL. I'm not much of a fan of the "closer" role as it exists today.