Is this possible?

DarthVader · 04-26-2011, 12:33 AM

I've only used a fictional league before so I'm wondering if this is possible...

When I get OOTP12 I'd like to start a historical league (1985?) but change a few of the actual MLB franchises, perhaps 1 in each league, to represent my high school and college. As such, I'd like to establish new locations, colors, uniforms, logos, weather/climate conditions, ballparks, etc. for the teams that I replace. Also, I want to make sure that these are not changed or overwritten by the program as time goes on...yet still allow for alterations for the rest of the league in accordance with what actually happened in MLB.

Any comments, hints, suggestions or instructions would be greatly appreciated.

Chicagofan76 · 04-26-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

I've only used a fictional league before so I'm wondering if this is possible...

When I get OOTP12 I'd like to start a historical league (1985?) but change a few of the actual MLB franchises, perhaps 1 in each league, to represent my high school and college. As such, I'd like to establish new locations, colors, uniforms, logos, weather/climate conditions, ballparks, etc. for the teams that I replace. Also, I want to make sure that these are not changed or overwritten by the program as time goes on...yet still allow for alterations for the rest of the league in accordance with what actually happened in MLB.

Any comments, hints, suggestions or instructions would be greatly appreciated.

yeah this is easy to do. after u create 1985 go into the League Options tab and edit League Structure from there u can add/delete/move teams

Erik · 04-26-2011, 02:50 PM

I was just thinking about this scenerio last night. In my current game I am playing as the Expos and I was curious if there was a way I could make it so that they never leave Montreal to Washington when that time comes.

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

yeah this is easy to do. after u create 1985 go into the League Options tab and edit League Structure from there u can add/delete/move teams

This doesn't seem like it would correct this issue. I've played a historical league since 1945 and I'm in 1972 now. If I wanted everything (structure and team names/locations) to stay exactly how they are now, but still run a "historical" league in the sense of the players being imported each year, how would I do that? The game automatically expands the league/changes teams/locations after the season ends for the following year. Is there a checkbox somewhere I need to unclick so it doesn't change anything after each season (but still imports historical players for the ammy draft)?

Chicagofan76 · 04-26-2011, 06:19 PM

well for Montreal not to move to washington u would have to uncheck the box for league evolution or teams move forgot which...but if he's creating a fictional teams with real teams that shouldnt be an issue.

Also I think there s away to change teh historical ID and not have the team move but not sure on that 1.

Chicagofan76 · 04-26-2011, 06:23 PM

thought there were more options in preseason but i am on OD.

DarthVader · 04-27-2011, 01:12 AM

Still not certain if I have the full answer...

I want to allow for the entrance of expansion teams, changes in MLB rules, etc. but don't want the program to change my uniforms, build a new stadium or re-locate my new team.

If, for example, I replace the Montreal Expos (I'll follow along with a previous post) with a new team called the "K.C. Sunshine Bands", can I keep them from moving to Washington, changing uniforms, logo, ballpark, etc? If so, would this action also necessarily prevent all other historical MLB changes?

Would it be safer to select an organization that does not re-locate such as the Dodgers rather than the Expos?

Finally, when I enter my new team, am I actually replacing the MLB team? or am I simply editing that franchise to fit my new "Sunshine Bands" theme?

Chicagofan76 · 04-27-2011, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

Still not certain if I have the full answer...

I want to allow for the entrance of expansion teams, changes in MLB rules, etc. but don't want the program to change my uniforms, build a new stadium or re-locate my new team.

If, for example, I replace the Montreal Expos (I'll follow along with a previous post) with a new team called the "K.C. Sunshine Bands", can I keep them from moving to Washington, changing uniforms, logo, ballpark, etc? If so, would this action also necessarily prevent all other historical MLB changes?

Would it be safer to select an organization that does not re-locate such as the Dodgers rather than the Expos?

Finally, when I enter my new team, am I actually replacing the MLB team? or am I simply editing that franchise to fit my new "Sunshine Bands" theme?

If u delete the Espos and add KC Sunshine Bands then there wont be a Expos team to move, if u change the name of the expos to KC then I dunno? i am testing part 2 brb

Chicagofan76 · 04-27-2011, 01:35 AM

ok this is odd..I changed the name of the Expos to tigers SS#1 then at the end of teh season it says there is a new franchise coming in...The Washington Nationals...hmmm that still work for ya?

Chicagofan76 · 04-27-2011, 01:37 AM

changing the name of the team from Expos to whatever didnt work my team got replaced

DarthVader · 04-27-2011, 01:39 AM

So, in your scenarion, the league actually increased by 1 team?

DarthVader · 04-27-2011, 01:41 AM

So we can't just change the name (edit the existing team)...we would need to replace the franchise with a new one, correct?

Chicagofan76 · 04-27-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

So we can't just change the name (edit the existing team)...we would need to replace the franchise with a new one, correct?

i am testing this now brb. I want to see if they will bump my team again as the did above or add Washington as anew franchise having 17 teams in NL.

Note: Iforgot to do this at 1st, but if u delete MON and then add a new team you have to hit the correct add button in this case the NL east. and then after u enter city name nickname and abb hit enter and regenerate schedule ( i forgot to do that at 1st)

Chicagofan76 · 04-27-2011, 01:58 AM

by deleting Montreal and adding Delgado the AI (since i choose not to be GM this time) signed most of the released Montreal players.

Hmm i am at my wits end now I got replaced again.

only option is to turn off the option in Advanced mode for League Expansion til u get to 2005 preseason. which i can test if u want me to but i know it wont bring in Washington, i just dont know what it will do with my delgado franchise.

mgom27 · 04-28-2011, 08:30 PM

After they become Washington you can go in and edit the name back to Montreal.

DarthVader · 04-29-2011, 01:25 AM

I appreciate all the input. However, my point wasn't originally about Montreal, I was just using that as an example because someone else brought it up. I'll probably replace some other team just to avoid the hassle.

The issue really is that, regardless of what team I choose to replace, I don't want the program to change ANYTHING (uniforms, stadium, etc.) for my franchise as time moves along...but I do want everything else about the league to be subject to historical alterations as the years pass in the MLB.

For instance, if I were to replace the Astros with my made-up franchise, I don't want the program to update my uniforms every time the Astros would have done...or move to a new stadium when the Astros did.

Please let me know if you have any additional thoughts or suggestions!

Chicagofan76 · 04-29-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthVader

For instance, if I were to replace the Astros with my made-up franchise, I don't want the program to update my uniforms every time the Astros would have done...or move to a new stadium when the Astros did.

Please let me know if you have any additional thoughts or suggestions!

the game doesnt touch uniforms anyway...u could put yankees uniforms in for teh Mets and they would never change the uniform. Uniforms r on u has nothing to do with the game. and unless it changes your team back to the astros which we didnt test it wont change the name of your park either.

Maybe tomorrow i'll test just to make sure.

shawa666 · 04-29-2011, 03:35 AM

The way around this is to basically delete the hitorical team ID and historical franchise ID tags. The game uses these tags and matches them with the new years league alignment. Since the game has nothing to match against the database, it won't change anything on this team.

Chicagofan76 · 04-29-2011, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shawa666

The way around this is to basically delete the hitorical team ID and historical franchise ID tags. The game uses these tags and matches them with the new years league alignment. Since the game has nothing to match against the database, it won't change anything on this team.

see all my screenshots above i changed the historical for montreal and it deleted the tigers and added washington.

Germaniac · 05-01-2011, 10:25 AM

If I understand that correctly ...

There would be no chance to take over the Brooklyn Dodgers in a historical league sometime early in the 20th century and keep them until today, without them ever moving to LA ??

Chicagofan76 · 05-01-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Germaniac

If I understand that correctly ...

There would be no chance to take over the Brooklyn Dodgers in a historical league sometime early in the 20th century and keep them until today, without them ever moving to LA ??

the only solution i can come up with and i havent tested it is before they move in 1958 turn off the option for expansion/relocation. move NY Giants to SF manually...then turn the option back on after the season starts in 1958.

Same with montreal/washington.

04-26-2011, 06:23 PM	#5
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	thought there were more options in preseason but i am on OD. Attached Images

04-27-2011, 01:35 AM	#8
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	ok this is odd..I changed the name of the Expos to tigers SS#1 then at the end of teh season it says there is a new franchise coming in...The Washington Nationals...hmmm that still work for ya? Attached Images

04-27-2011, 01:37 AM	#9
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	changing the name of the team from Expos to whatever didnt work my team got replaced Attached Images

04-27-2011, 01:58 AM	#13
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	by deleting Montreal and adding Delgado the AI (since i choose not to be GM this time) signed most of the released Montreal players. Hmm i am at my wits end now I got replaced again. only option is to turn off the option in Advanced mode for League Expansion til u get to 2005 preseason. which i can test if u want me to but i know it wont bring in Washington, i just dont know what it will do with my delgado franchise. Attached Images

04-28-2011, 08:30 PM	#14
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,532	After they become Washington you can go in and edit the name back to Montreal. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

04-26-2011, 12:33 AM	#1
DarthVader Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21	Is this possible? I've only used a fictional league before so I'm wondering if this is possible... When I get OOTP12 I'd like to start a historical league (1985?) but change a few of the actual MLB franchises, perhaps 1 in each league, to represent my high school and college. As such, I'd like to establish new locations, colors, uniforms, logos, weather/climate conditions, ballparks, etc. for the teams that I replace. Also, I want to make sure that these are not changed or overwritten by the program as time goes on...yet still allow for alterations for the rest of the league in accordance with what actually happened in MLB. Any comments, hints, suggestions or instructions would be greatly appreciated.

04-26-2011, 06:19 PM	#4
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	well for Montreal not to move to washington u would have to uncheck the box for league evolution or teams move forgot which...but if he's creating a fictional teams with real teams that shouldnt be an issue. Also I think there s away to change teh historical ID and not have the team move but not sure on that 1.

04-27-2011, 01:12 AM	#6
DarthVader Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21	Still not certain if I have the full answer... I want to allow for the entrance of expansion teams, changes in MLB rules, etc. but don't want the program to change my uniforms, build a new stadium or re-locate my new team. If, for example, I replace the Montreal Expos (I'll follow along with a previous post) with a new team called the "K.C. Sunshine Bands", can I keep them from moving to Washington, changing uniforms, logo, ballpark, etc? If so, would this action also necessarily prevent all other historical MLB changes? Would it be safer to select an organization that does not re-locate such as the Dodgers rather than the Expos? Finally, when I enter my new team, am I actually replacing the MLB team? or am I simply editing that franchise to fit my new "Sunshine Bands" theme?

04-27-2011, 01:39 AM	#10
DarthVader Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21	So, in your scenarion, the league actually increased by 1 team?

04-27-2011, 01:41 AM	#11
DarthVader Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21	So we can't just change the name (edit the existing team)...we would need to replace the franchise with a new one, correct?

04-29-2011, 01:25 AM	#15
DarthVader Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21	I appreciate all the input. However, my point wasn't originally about Montreal, I was just using that as an example because someone else brought it up. I'll probably replace some other team just to avoid the hassle. The issue really is that, regardless of what team I choose to replace, I don't want the program to change ANYTHING (uniforms, stadium, etc.) for my franchise as time moves along...but I do want everything else about the league to be subject to historical alterations as the years pass in the MLB. For instance, if I were to replace the Astros with my made-up franchise, I don't want the program to update my uniforms every time the Astros would have done...or move to a new stadium when the Astros did. Please let me know if you have any additional thoughts or suggestions!

04-29-2011, 03:35 AM	#17
shawa666 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The way around this is to basically delete the hitorical team ID and historical franchise ID tags. The game uses these tags and matches them with the new years league alignment. Since the game has nothing to match against the database, it won't change anything on this team.

05-01-2011, 10:25 AM	#19
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 3,064	If I understand that correctly ... There would be no chance to take over the Brooklyn Dodgers in a historical league sometime early in the 20th century and keep them until today, without them ever moving to LA ??