James DeGale prospect alert.

IceTea · 12-03-2010, 02:14 AM

I've been watching video of him and he is the real deal.

PWillisTheMan · 12-03-2010, 05:32 AM

Agreed, I've watched several of his fights live on stream. He is above the European level already. Strangely, his countrymen are not as high on him. I think it's his brash nature, but if he and George Groves ever square off I think Degale will toy with him.

dragon29 · 12-04-2010, 08:21 PM

We shall see....he fights British SMW champion and rival, Paul Smith 29-1 (15) in one week. Looking forward to it!

IceTea · 12-04-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon29

We shall see....he fights British SMW champion and rival, Paul Smith 29-1 (15) in one week. Looking forward to it!

* Its a mismatch.

dragon29 · 12-05-2010, 02:06 PM

I agree but hopefully, Smith can offer some type of resistence

a87star · 12-07-2010, 06:42 PM

DeGale may have the skill but he exudes a lot of false confidence. All it's going to take to ruin this guy is one loss. Groves will definitely be the one to do it.

dragon29 · 12-07-2010, 07:29 PM

a87star,
what do you make of his fight saturday vs. Paul Smith?

a87star · 12-08-2010, 11:50 AM

I think Smith has a punchers chance. DeGale will probably win on cuts but i'm curious to see how he responds to a guy that isn't going to just fall over.

Owen · 12-09-2010, 01:06 PM

I think he makes rather quick work of Groves. Georges defense is to leaky.

basketcase77 · 12-11-2010, 10:11 PM

DeGale is a REAL prospect, he won the British title in only his 9th pro fight tonight with a 9th round tko of 29-1 Paul Smith. I'm not sure if I like him as a person much but he is the real deal I think.

Ric915 · 12-14-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by basketcase77

DeGale is a REAL prospect, he won the British title in only his 9th pro fight tonight with a 9th round tko of 29-1 Paul Smith. I'm not sure if I like him as a person much but he is the real deal I think.

Is this the Paul Smith who was on a season of Contender?

Rob Morris · 12-14-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ric915

Is this the Paul Smith who was on a season of Contender?

Yes it is.

hamed2 · 12-26-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IceTea

I've been watching video of him and he is the real deal.

Yes & I see his rating @ a 7, nice work!

a87star · 05-24-2011, 06:24 PM

What does everyone think of "Saint George" now?

DeGale faced adversity for the first time and folded. He wasn't prepared for a tough fight and his camp thought Groves would be a walk in the park. This shows you a gold medal means nothing. You have to be the complete package to be a great fighter.........not being brash and cocky to make up for what you lack on the inside.

PWillisTheMan · 05-24-2011, 07:10 PM

I didn't see DeGale fold. To be honest I thought he edged it though there were about 8 rounds that could go either way.

I was surprised that george was able to run and counter punch as effectively as he did. I expected him to be the aggressor. Not much happened until the last 4 rounds. James landed the harder punches throughout so I had him by 2.

Groves is better than I thought and DeGale is not quite as evolved. But folded? Hell no.

Edit: Nice call on groves winning. Hope you hit the books, he was a big dog.

IceTea · 05-24-2011, 08:34 PM

The problem with boxing today is that most watching it are these "new-school" types that lend too much credibility to an undefeated record. DeGale will be a better fight due to his loss to Groves. I'm still very high on him and believe that he and I guess Groves are top-ten SMWs.

Jackyle · 05-24-2011, 08:59 PM

I agree IceTea, MMA, and UFC pit the best against the best and records are not held so crazy close as they are in boxing. I mean now a days a prospect loses 2 or three times it's time to hang em up??? Crazy. Degale will be just fine.

a87star · 05-26-2011, 06:11 PM

Maybe "folded" was a bit too harsh but the cut he suffered changed the way he would normally fight. Him and Groves will rematch in a few years.

Losses are too overvalued in boxing. There's a guy named Patrick Mendy who is 11-4. I think he can become a top 10-15 guy when he fully develops as a fighter......Just was thrown in way too soon against some really good fighters due to bad management.

PWillisTheMan · 05-27-2011, 01:57 AM

Yeah, that loss is the best thing that ever happened to deGale. Props to both of them for risking their "0" early on. I grew up on those kind of fights and it makes fighters better.

Utopian · 05-28-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by a87star

Maybe "folded" was a bit too harsh but the cut he suffered changed the way he would normally fight. Him and Groves will rematch in a few years.

Losses are too overvalued in boxing. There's a guy named Patrick Mendy who is 11-4. I think he can become a top 10-15 guy when he fully develops as a fighter......Just was thrown in way too soon against some really good fighters due to bad management.

Definitley. Mendy to me and a few others is regarded as a top prospect, after his prize fighter win people couldnt believe he'd lost 4 times already yet look at him now being promoted properly, recently beat Samuels which is a great scalp. Losses mean nothing in boxing, the oldest world champion, B-hop , lost his first fight !

12-03-2010, 02:14 AM	#1
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,836	James DeGale prospect alert. I've been watching video of him and he is the real deal. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

12-03-2010, 05:32 AM	#2
PWillisTheMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,418	Agreed, I've watched several of his fights live on stream. He is above the European level already. Strangely, his countrymen are not as high on him. I think it's his brash nature, but if he and George Groves ever square off I think Degale will toy with him. __________________ http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...urnaments.html- Nerd Tournaments

12-07-2010, 06:42 PM	#6
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	DeGale may have the skill but he exudes a lot of false confidence. All it's going to take to ruin this guy is one loss. Groves will definitely be the one to do it. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association Last edited by a87star; 12-07-2010 at 06:48 PM.

12-08-2010, 11:50 AM	#8
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	I think Smith has a punchers chance. DeGale will probably win on cuts but i'm curious to see how he responds to a guy that isn't going to just fall over. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association

05-24-2011, 06:24 PM	#14
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	What does everyone think of "Saint George" now? DeGale faced adversity for the first time and folded. He wasn't prepared for a tough fight and his camp thought Groves would be a walk in the park. This shows you a gold medal means nothing. You have to be the complete package to be a great fighter.........not being brash and cocky to make up for what you lack on the inside. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association

12-04-2010, 08:21 PM	#3
dragon29 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 261	We shall see....he fights British SMW champion and rival, Paul Smith 29-1 (15) in one week. Looking forward to it!

12-05-2010, 02:06 PM	#5
dragon29 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 261	I agree but hopefully, Smith can offer some type of resistence

12-07-2010, 07:29 PM	#7
dragon29 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 261	a87star, what do you make of his fight saturday vs. Paul Smith?

12-09-2010, 01:06 PM	#9
Owen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 196	I think he makes rather quick work of Groves. Georges defense is to leaky.

12-11-2010, 10:11 PM	#10
basketcase77 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 130	DeGale is a REAL prospect, he won the British title in only his 9th pro fight tonight with a 9th round tko of 29-1 Paul Smith. I'm not sure if I like him as a person much but he is the real deal I think.

05-24-2011, 07:10 PM	#15
PWillisTheMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,418	I didn't see DeGale fold. To be honest I thought he edged it though there were about 8 rounds that could go either way. I was surprised that george was able to run and counter punch as effectively as he did. I expected him to be the aggressor. Not much happened until the last 4 rounds. James landed the harder punches throughout so I had him by 2. Groves is better than I thought and DeGale is not quite as evolved. But folded? Hell no. Edit: Nice call on groves winning. Hope you hit the books, he was a big dog. __________________ http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...urnaments.html- Nerd Tournaments Last edited by PWillisTheMan; 05-24-2011 at 07:11 PM.

05-24-2011, 08:34 PM	#16
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,836	The problem with boxing today is that most watching it are these "new-school" types that lend too much credibility to an undefeated record. DeGale will be a better fight due to his loss to Groves. I'm still very high on him and believe that he and I guess Groves are top-ten SMWs. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

05-24-2011, 08:59 PM	#17
Jackyle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,394	I agree IceTea, MMA, and UFC pit the best against the best and records are not held so crazy close as they are in boxing. I mean now a days a prospect loses 2 or three times it's time to hang em up??? Crazy. Degale will be just fine.

05-26-2011, 06:11 PM	#18
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,850	Maybe "folded" was a bit too harsh but the cut he suffered changed the way he would normally fight. Him and Groves will rematch in a few years. Losses are too overvalued in boxing. There's a guy named Patrick Mendy who is 11-4. I think he can become a top 10-15 guy when he fully develops as a fighter......Just was thrown in way too soon against some really good fighters due to bad management. __________________ Women Boxing Archive Network Womens International Boxing Association

05-27-2011, 01:57 AM	#19
PWillisTheMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,418	Yeah, that loss is the best thing that ever happened to deGale. Props to both of them for risking their "0" early on. I grew up on those kind of fights and it makes fighters better. __________________ http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...urnaments.html- Nerd Tournaments