POLL: Best Game Concept That Has Never Been Made...

Joe Stallings · 03-04-2002, 04:53 PM

OK, so its not really a poll. But I am curious: what is the one game that you've always been looking for, been hoping for, that has yet to see the light of day?

(And please don't say a comprehensive baseball simulation).

I know I'm opening this thread for a ton of whimsical responses, but think about it, seriously.

Here are two games I've always kept an eye out for but have never seen done (or done well, anyway):

a) An engaging (i.e., more than hexes and NATO symbols) war game that effectively models the Vietnam War;

b) A college basketball sim for the PC

c) A stock market simulation game that is fun, accurate, and again, engaging.

Any other thoughts?

Joe Stallings · 03-04-2002, 05:00 PM

Well actually, that was three games. Hey, its late.

Joe

CubsSox · 03-04-2002, 05:05 PM

A good basketball sim for the computer. Jump Shot and Fast Break are decent, but they don't have much replay value.

Killebrew · 03-04-2002, 05:09 PM

- A detailed but playable grand strategic WW2 game.
- A hockey game with the quality of FOF/OOTP
- A basketball game with the quality of FOF/OOTP

rallymonkey1982 · 03-04-2002, 05:12 PM

Killebrew; if you want a free hockey game taht is very detailed, get Eastside Hockey Manager at <a href="http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/" target="_blank">http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/</a>

Its not as good as OOTP, but then again, it's free, and it's hockey

KWhit · 03-04-2002, 05:20 PM

College Football Simulator!

With recruiting, boosters, fund-raising, the polls, bowl games, and a custom playbook that you'd use to call your plays from. Then you'd sim or play the game much like OOTP.

I think I'm drooling...

Andy · 03-04-2002, 05:25 PM

I am a NASCAR racing fan. While Papyrus does have a very good racing sim, I would like to manage the business side of it(dealing with sponsor contracts, paying pit crew,etc.)

Frank55 · 03-04-2002, 05:28 PM

I also would love to see a nascar game.
You being the crew chief deciding when to pit, tires...etc.....

Frank55 · 03-04-2002, 05:29 PM

I also would love to see a nascar game.
You being the crew chief deciding when to pit, tires...etc.....

Henry · 03-04-2002, 05:31 PM

"Cold War" or at least that's what I call it. A geopolitical/military game that starts after WW2 to present... the goal ? .. become the worlds strongest nation without blowing us all up

Draft Dodger · 03-04-2002, 05:31 PM

Battleship.

Andy · 03-04-2002, 05:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger:
Battleship.<hr></blockquote>

Now that is an excellent idea! Where did you come up with it?

DMoney · 03-04-2002, 06:02 PM

KWhit, there already is a game like that. It is called The College Years and it's made by the same people that make Front Office Football.

Draft Dodger · 03-04-2002, 06:30 PM

[quote]Originally posted by AK2KStang:


Now that is an excellent idea! Where did you come up with it?<hr></blockquote>

working on it in my head for years, but thought it would be too difficult to code...

Killebrew · 03-04-2002, 06:32 PM

[quote]Originally posted by rallymonkey1982:
Killebrew; if you want a free hockey game taht is very detailed, get Eastside Hockey Manager at <a href="http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/" target="_blank">http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/</a>

Its not as good as OOTP, but then again, it's free, and it's hockey<hr></blockquote>

I completely agree - a very high quality game alright with some features that neither FOF or OOTP have. Unfortunately the sim speed means it's almost unplayable for me. I will try it again when I get a very high end system but my laptop is new and it's still too slow there. Multiplayer ability would be an important plus too (its currently almost iumpossible to play it multiplayer), but EHM is still far and away the best hockey sim out there. I have high hopes for the future of EHM though, and I'm hoping it can be recoded using C++.

JML · 03-04-2002, 07:48 PM

I would LOVE to see a game that involves a little yellow disembodied head with no hair. This head would run around in a maze, y'see,and he'd be eating these little pellet things. Sounds boring right? But there'd be these OTHER guys, like maybe the Fry Guys or ghosts or something, and they would chase the bodyless head around and try to make him disintegrate. But sometimes maybe the guy would find this, like, SUPER pellet, and then he could go and EAT the Fry Guy/ghost guys. Man, that would be SWEET.

<---- bodyless bald guy

you're right Joe, it is late

chrisj · 03-05-2002, 01:49 AM

I know some people who say EHM sim speed sucks... but I've always found that weird.

I can sim a season (although I usually go day by day) in about an hour.

Aw well.

Jestre · 03-05-2002, 02:05 AM

As mentioned previously; a grand strategic WWII game covering the entire war ala 'War in Europe'

Jestre · 03-05-2002, 02:06 AM

As mentioned previously; a grand strategic WWII game covering the entire war ala 'War in Europe' from SPI.

An all encompassing grand strategic Civil War game ala 'War Between the States' from SPI.

SSG Troyer · 03-05-2002, 03:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Henry:
"Cold War" or at least that's what I call it. A geopolitical/military game that starts after WW2 to present... the goal ? .. become the worlds strongest nation without blowing us all up

<hr></blockquote>

This game exists. It was written for Windows version 1 back in 1985, and was called Balance of Power. One of Reagan's SoS's played it. You are the US or USSR and make policy decisions, sending economic or military aid to governments or insurgents, depending on whether you want to topple or support that country's existing government. The other side then has the right to file a protest. Protests can be challenged once for free, but when the policy-maker restates the policy, the incident goes public, and Game Points, known as Prestige, come into play. Five rounds of protest/counter-protest can occur, Prestige increasing with the DefCon level; first side to blink loses that much Prestige; pushing DefCon 1 blows everyone up and everyone loses. Countries were rated by importance; some, such as Mexico or Syria, were more important (Prestigious) than, say the Congo. Over 100 countries were modeled, and they interacted, too. Insurgencies could spill over borders, and you could only send troops to a country which shared a border with one you already had troops in. You could protest allies' policies, too. Isreal might decide to support the insurgency in Syria, for instance. Russia might then send troops to prop up the Syrian government. Isreal might respond by sending troops of their own. Russians kill Isrealites, Isrealites kill Russians, and now whatcha gonna do, smart boy? Maybe you should'a nipped this thing in the bud before it got out of hand....

Search for it <a href="http://www.theunderdogs.org/index.php" target="_blank">here</a>, where it is now free abandonware. It comes with run-time dll's for WinVer1. Warning, though. Trying to play this game without having read the manual will, as you say, blow us all up.

03-04-2002, 04:53 PM	#1
Joe Stallings Administrator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 239	POLL: Best Game Concept That Has Never Been Made... OK, so its not really a poll. But I am curious: what is the one game that you've always been looking for, been hoping for, that has yet to see the light of day? (And please don't say a comprehensive baseball simulation). I know I'm opening this thread for a ton of whimsical responses, but think about it, seriously. Here are two games I've always kept an eye out for but have never seen done (or done well, anyway): a) An engaging (i.e., more than hexes and NATO symbols) war game that effectively models the Vietnam War; b) A college basketball sim for the PC c) A stock market simulation game that is fun, accurate, and again, engaging. Any other thoughts?

03-04-2002, 05:05 PM	#3
CubsSox Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 206	A good basketball sim for the computer. Jump Shot and Fast Break are decent, but they don't have much replay value. __________________ It's me... Chae!

03-04-2002, 05:09 PM	#4
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	- A detailed but playable grand strategic WW2 game. - A hockey game with the quality of FOF/OOTP - A basketball game with the quality of FOF/OOTP __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

03-04-2002, 05:12 PM	#5
rallymonkey1982 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orange County Posts: 436	Killebrew; if you want a free hockey game taht is very detailed, get Eastside Hockey Manager at <a href="http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/" target="_blank">http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/</a> Its not as good as OOTP, but then again, it's free, and it's hockey __________________ "This is sort of like living the American dream. You get to come the ballpark and get a free beer." - Arte Moreno My Life

03-04-2002, 05:20 PM	#6
KWhit Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 413	College Football Simulator! With recruiting, boosters, fund-raising, the polls, bowl games, and a custom playbook that you'd use to call your plays from. Then you'd sim or play the game much like OOTP. I think I'm drooling... __________________

03-04-2002, 05:00 PM	#2
Joe Stallings Administrator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 239	Well actually, that was three games. Hey, its late. Joe

03-04-2002, 05:25 PM	#7
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,270	I am a NASCAR racing fan. While Papyrus does have a very good racing sim, I would like to manage the business side of it(dealing with sponsor contracts, paying pit crew,etc.)

03-04-2002, 05:28 PM	#8
Frank55 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 30	I also would love to see a nascar game. You being the crew chief deciding when to pit, tires...etc.....

03-04-2002, 05:29 PM	#9
Frank55 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 30	I also would love to see a nascar game. You being the crew chief deciding when to pit, tires...etc.....

03-04-2002, 05:31 PM	#10
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	"Cold War" or at least that's what I call it. A geopolitical/military game that starts after WW2 to present... the goal ? .. become the worlds strongest nation without blowing us all up

03-04-2002, 05:31 PM	#11
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	Battleship. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

03-04-2002, 05:38 PM	#12
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,270	[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger: <strong>Battleship.</strong><hr></blockquote> Now that is an excellent idea! Where did you come up with it?

03-04-2002, 06:02 PM	#13
DMoney Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 13	KWhit, there already is a game like that. It is called The College Years and it's made by the same people that make Front Office Football.

03-04-2002, 06:30 PM	#14
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	[quote]Originally posted by AK2KStang: <strong> Now that is an excellent idea! Where did you come up with it?</strong><hr></blockquote> working on it in my head for years, but thought it would be too difficult to code... __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

03-04-2002, 06:32 PM	#15
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	[quote]Originally posted by rallymonkey1982: <strong>Killebrew; if you want a free hockey game taht is very detailed, get Eastside Hockey Manager at <a href="http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/" target="_blank">http://eastside.peliplaneetta.net/</a> Its not as good as OOTP, but then again, it's free, and it's hockey</strong><hr></blockquote> I completely agree - a very high quality game alright with some features that neither FOF or OOTP have. Unfortunately the sim speed means it's almost unplayable for me. I will try it again when I get a very high end system but my laptop is new and it's still too slow there. Multiplayer ability would be an important plus too (its currently almost iumpossible to play it multiplayer), but EHM is still far and away the best hockey sim out there. I have high hopes for the future of EHM though, and I'm hoping it can be recoded using C++. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

03-04-2002, 07:48 PM	#16
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	I would LOVE to see a game that involves a little yellow disembodied head with no hair. This head would run around in a maze, y'see,and he'd be eating these little pellet things. Sounds boring right? But there'd be these OTHER guys, like maybe the Fry Guys or ghosts or something, and they would chase the bodyless head around and try to make him disintegrate. But sometimes maybe the guy would find this, like, SUPER pellet, and then he could go and EAT the Fry Guy/ghost guys. Man, that would be SWEET. <---- bodyless bald guy you're right Joe, it is late

03-05-2002, 01:49 AM	#17
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	I know some people who say EHM sim speed sucks... but I've always found that weird. I can sim a season (although I usually go day by day) in about an hour. Aw well. __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

03-05-2002, 02:05 AM	#18
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	As mentioned previously; a grand strategic WWII game covering the entire war ala 'War in Europe' __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

03-05-2002, 02:06 AM	#19
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	As mentioned previously; a grand strategic WWII game covering the entire war ala 'War in Europe' from SPI. An all encompassing grand strategic Civil War game ala 'War Between the States' from SPI. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

03-05-2002, 03:30 AM	#20
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	[quote]Originally posted by Henry: <strong>"Cold War" or at least that's what I call it. A geopolitical/military game that starts after WW2 to present... the goal ? .. become the worlds strongest nation without blowing us all up </strong><hr></blockquote> This game exists. It was written for Windows version 1 back in 1985, and was called Balance of Power. One of Reagan's SoS's played it. You are the US or USSR and make policy decisions, sending economic or military aid to governments or insurgents, depending on whether you want to topple or support that country's existing government. The other side then has the right to file a protest. Protests can be challenged once for free, but when the policy-maker restates the policy, the incident goes public, and Game Points, known as Prestige, come into play. Five rounds of protest/counter-protest can occur, Prestige increasing with the DefCon level; first side to blink loses that much Prestige; pushing DefCon 1 blows everyone up and everyone loses. Countries were rated by importance; some, such as Mexico or Syria, were more important (Prestigious) than, say the Congo. Over 100 countries were modeled, and they interacted, too. Insurgencies could spill over borders, and you could only send troops to a country which shared a border with one you already had troops in. You could protest allies' policies, too. Isreal might decide to support the insurgency in Syria, for instance. Russia might then send troops to prop up the Syrian government. Isreal might respond by sending troops of their own. Russians kill Isrealites, Isrealites kill Russians, and now whatcha gonna do, smart boy? Maybe you should'a nipped this thing in the bud before it got out of hand.... Search for it <a href="http://www.theunderdogs.org/index.php" target="_blank">here</a>, where it is now free abandonware. It comes with run-time dll's for WinVer1. Warning, though. Trying to play this game without having read the manual will, as you say, blow us all up. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!