ML Rosters - Post Issues Here!

[battists]

Please post any major league roster set issues here (once the game is released). This is primarily for player data such as players being on wrong teams, having incorrect option years, players who should be injured to start the season but aren't, and so on.

Gameplay issues should be directed to our Support Central site. You can post ratings criticisms here, but please do so constructively, using a format like this:

Good Post
Player A’s BABIP is way too high. Projected .278 in game, ZiPS projects .257. Should be around 110

Pitcher A is projected to give up 22 HR in 240 innings, he’s given up 24-28-32 in his last three full seasons, all in fewer than 220 innings. His movement should be lowered, significantly.

Poor Post
Why is Player A rated at 5-stars? He sucks! Make him worse.

Important note: Please remember that OOTP is a simulation game. As soon as you start simming in a major league game, the AI will make decisions based on what it thinks is best, and players will not be exactly where they were in the real world on the day after Opening Day.

Thanks all!

[andymac]

It seems that the short season A leagues start in April and are over before the summer draft. They shouldn't start until after the draft. It appears that the rookie leagues are set up to start at the correct time.

[jwisenberg]

I am going through each organization comparing opening day rosters and have come across the following missing players so far.

Baltimore - Ryan Palsha (Delmarva)
NY Yankees - Trent Lockwood (Tampa)
NY Yankees - Bradley Suttle (Tampa)
Tampa Bay - Dane De La Rosa (Charlotte)
Toronto - Christian Colonel (Las Vegas)
Kansas City - Eddie Prasch (Wilmington - 7-day DL)
Kansas City - Buddy Baumann (Wilmington)
Kansas City - Jairo Cuevas (Wilmington)
Kansas City - Gerard Hall (Burlington)
Kansas City - Adam Frost (Burlington)
Oakland - Josh Lansford (Kane County)
Oakland - Christopher Mederos (Kane County)
Seattle - Yusmeiro Petit (Tacoma)
Seattle - Tyler Blandford (Clinton)
Texas - Chadwick Bell (Hickory)
Atlanta - Dustin Evans (Mississippi - DL)
Atlanta - Ramon J. Flores (Rome)
Florida - Lorenzo Scott (Jacksonville)
Florida - Javier Guzman (Jacksonville - DL)
NY Mets - Raul Valdes (Buffalo)
Philadelphia - Brian Mazone (Lehigh Valley)
Chi Cubs - Oswaldo Martinez (Daytona)
Chi Cubs - Smalley Borges (Daytona)
Chi Cubs - Nicholas Struck (Peoria)
Chi Cubs - Justin Bour (Peoria)
Chi Cubs - Richard Jones (Peoria)
Chi Cubs - Alvaro Ramirez (Peoria)
Cincinnati - Jeff Jeffords (Lynchburg)
Cincinnati - Nick Christiani (Dayton)
Milwaukee - Brandon Kintzler (Huntsville)
(still working on this list still have nl central & west to go)

Change organizations for the following players
Chad Huffman from San Diego to NY Yankees
Kelvin Pichardo from San Francisco to Boston
Hector R. Gomez from Colorado to Tampa Bay
Chris Province from Boston to Minnesota
Alejandro Machado from NY Mets to Florida
Mike O'Connor from Free Agents to NY Mets
Manny Acosta from Atlanta to NY Mets
Paul Hoover from Free Agents to Philadelphia
Glenn Gibson from Tampa Bay to Washington
Jonah Bayliss from Free Agents to Houston

I would also like to request that Josh R. Johnson be added to Washington (he began in extended spring but has since been added to Harrisburg)


Also Garrison Lassiter is duplicated on the Yankees

[RandyTiger]

I've identified several roster problems with the Detroit Tigers, as follows:

Pitchers:

(They have 12 on their staff, not 11.)

In Detroit instead of Toledo (3A):
Eddie Bonine (Bullpen)
Brad Thomas (Bullpen)
Dontrelle Willis (Starter)

In Toledo (3A) instead of the Tigers Roster:
Armando Galarraga
Daniel Schlereth

Position Players:

Infield:
Ryan Raburn is listed as an infielder when he's listed as an OF in reality.
Jeff Larish is in Toledo (3A), not Detroit.

Outfield:
Don Kelly is in Detroit instead of Toledo (3A).
Clete Thomas is in Toledo (3A) instead of Detroit.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by RandyTiger

I've identified several roster problems with the Detroit Tigers, as follows:

Pitchers:

(They have 12 on their staff, not 11.)

In Detroit instead of Toledo (3A):
Eddie Bonine (Bullpen)
Brad Thomas (Bullpen)
Dontrelle Willis (Starter)

In Toledo (3A) instead of the Tigers Roster:
Armando Galarraga
Daniel Schlereth

Position Players:

Infield:
Ryan Raburn is listed as an infielder when he's listed as an OF in reality.
Jeff Larish is in Toledo (3A), not Detroit.

Outfield:
Don Kelly is in Detroit instead of Toledo (3A).
Clete Thomas is in Toledo (3A) instead of Detroit.

Stuff like that is hard to fix sometimes, we cannot force the AI to place a player into a certain team, it depends all how the players are rated in relation to each other.

[RandyTiger]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Stuff like that is hard to fix sometimes, we cannot force the AI to place a player into a certain team, it depends all how the players are rated in relation to each other.

The stuff listed was the difference between the Tigers opening day roster and the game rosters.

I don't think the AI has anything to do with that, unless it's coded for the AI to decide what the opening day roster is...

[battists]

The key is, have you moved forward even one day? As soon as you advance a day, the AI will take over and do whatever it sees fit. So, if the roster problems you mentioned above appear without even simming a day, we'll take care of them. If it's Day 2, all bets are off!

Or of course, if those players don't exist in the game or whatever...

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by RandyTiger

I don't think the AI has anything to do with that, unless it's coded for the AI to decide what the opening day roster is...

Yes, the AI sets the opening day rosters too.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by battists

The key is, have you moved forward even one day? As soon as you advance a day, the AI will take over and do whatever it sees fit. So, if the roster problems you mentioned above appear without even simming a day, we'll take care of them. If it's Day 2, all bets are off!

Or of course, if those players don't exist in the game or whatever...

Actually Steve, the AI sets the opening day roster too... so it is quite an accomplishments that the initial rosters are that close to being accurate

[numbuh48]

LOL Markus double posted |^.^|

[RandyTiger]

Haven't done a single thing yet - was checking out all the features and setting up the add-on centrals stuff.

Markus, thanks for explaining.

Easy enough for me to fix in commish mode, but thought I'd give you guys a heads-up.

[andymac]

I don't think it is a huge deal or anything, but it would be nice to have true opening day rosters. Maybe have a version that starts with each team under human control. Currently, if you take over a team and try to set it up to the exact opening day roster in many cases you cannot do so without having to put guys who signed non-roster contracts through irrevocable waivers (Ruben Gotay and Rich Hill are examples with the Cardinals)

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by andymac

I don't think it is a huge deal or anything, but it would be nice to have true opening day rosters. Maybe have a version that starts with each team under human control.

Yeah, but that would not work. People would play the game and suddenly realize the AI doesn't do any roster moves! And even if the AI would be enabled after the first day, it would result in a frenzy of moves and waiver wire uses... so, the way we have it now is really the only possible solution.

[andymac]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yeah, but that would not work. People would play the game and suddenly realize the AI doesn't do any roster moves! And even if the AI would be enabled after the first day, it would result in a frenzy of moves and waiver wire uses... so, the way we have it now is really the only possible solution.

Well, I am saying two separate versions of it maybe. The waiver wire frenzy could be avoided by turning off options for a day while the AI adjusts and then turning them back on.

*edit* - I guess the user could use that trick with the current version to get their rosters to their liking as well, and that would probably be simpler.

*edit #2* - But the all human owner version would probably be really nice for online leagues wanting to use the rosters.

[RamMan12]

I found two things on Boston and Detroit that I thought warranted fixing.

Boston:
Jacoby Ellsbury: his range is too low, giving his OF ratings a severe hit. He has quite amazing range IMO and he has only 2 errors in 2787 innings in his career.
Dustin Pedroia: his speed seems a little low. He has stolen 20 bases each of the last two years. While his baserunning/stealing numbers look right, his speed seems lacking to warrant 20 SBs. Right now his rating is in the low 30s (out of 100) and should be in the low 40s possibly.

Detroit:
Miguel Cabrera: he should have fielding ratings for 3B and LF. He started his professional career at 3B, and while he has failed to be a great fielder there, he still warrants a below avg to avg rating there.
Brandon Inge: should have 100% familiarity at C instead of just ratings. He was moved from SS/P to C by the Tigers after being drafted and spent his 1st 3 ML seasons at C.

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by RamMan12

Detroit:
Miguel Cabrera: he should have fielding ratings for 3B and LF. He started his professional career at 3B, and while he has failed to be a great fielder there, he still warrants a below avg to avg rating there.
Brandon Inge: should have 100% familiarity at C instead of just ratings. He was moved from SS/P to C by the Tigers after being drafted and spent his 1st 3 ML seasons at C.

In some cases, ratings were specifically not given to persuade the AI to use the player like their MLB manager does.

[KySteveH]

I know no one care about the minor leagues, but there are only 11 teams in the AZL. The AZL Reds are missing...the game has a GCL Reds team, which doesn't actually exist.

[scotto313]

MAJOR BUG! The Royals are winning the division.

[kagnew35]

the cleveland manager is still Eric wedge not manny acta

[KySteveH]

Reds pitching coach is Brian Price, not Dick Pole.