Ardolis Chapman

nwuhockey · 12-23-2009, 05:51 PM

Who do you think is he going to? Well I heard it is only FLA and BOS for offers right now, but rumors have also leaked that TB, CHC, CHWS, and NYY are going to make offers. I think he is beast as chisox.

Russ · 12-23-2009, 06:06 PM

The thought is that he's going to start at AA wherever he goes. I think FLA has the best shot. Perhaps they're going to start spending some money with their new park opening in a couple years.

nwuhockey · 12-23-2009, 06:19 PM

They do have a pretty good shot, but I think he will start inn bullpen on opening day wherever he goes.

Russ · 12-23-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nwuhockey

They do have a pretty good shot, but I think he will start inn bullpen on opening day wherever he goes.

Could be, but it would most likely be a PR move. No reports I've seen have him ready for the big leagues.

nwuhockey · 12-23-2009, 06:24 PM

Know what would be a good matchup, say chap signs with FLA, it would be FLA-WAS, Stras v.s. Chap.

Russ · 12-23-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nwuhockey

Know what would be a good matchup, say chap signs with FLA, it would be FLA-WAS, Stras v.s. Chap.

I have a wait and see approach when it comes to the Cubans. He seems like the real deal, though.

nwuhockey · 12-23-2009, 06:28 PM

Yeah but remember contreras, signed a big ass deal with the yanks and wound up to be horrible, hopefully chap it the real deal.

Russ · 12-23-2009, 06:30 PM

Contreras has had a few good years. Not like the hype, though.

nwuhockey · 12-23-2009, 06:33 PM

I think the hype is what kills it. So much expectation, so much money, waisted. lol

Skipaway · 12-23-2009, 06:41 PM

He is very raw with no usable secondary pitch. Really an expensive toy only rich team should gamble on.

dsvitak · 12-25-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

He is very raw with no usable secondary pitch. Really an expensive toy only rich team should gamble on.

If he has no second pitch, then why bother. Sit dead red on his fastball, and kill it.

If you know a fastball is coming, you can hit it. Even I can hit a 90 mph fastball in a batting cage, and I am 53 years old. All a matter if timing, and I can hit it solid, as well.

William Foster · 12-25-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

He is very raw with no usable secondary pitch. Really an expensive toy only rich team should gamble on.

Indeed. Also in the Cuban National Series his control was notoriously horrible at best (I think he had something like 28 wild pitches in his limited work there). However if some rich team can harness his raw talent (see: 100 MPH Fastball) then he should easily be worth the gamble for them.

Skipaway · 12-25-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

If he has no second pitch, then why bother. Sit dead red on his fastball, and kill it.

If you know a fastball is coming, you can hit it. Even I can hit a 90 mph fastball in a batting cage, and I am 53 years old. All a matter if timing, and I can hit it solid, as well.

He has a lot of pitches other than fastball, just not usable at advanced level yet.

He's also young, so obviously still a lot of time to develop. Such a great and raw talent on the free market is definitely going to be much more expensive than those in the draft. That's why I think he's a rich team's gamble. Maybe the Marlins can justify it if they plan to become a spender in the near future, and maybe he can help attracting the Cuban audiences.

pancakes · 12-26-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

If he has no second pitch, then why bother. Sit dead red on his fastball, and kill it.

If you know a fastball is coming, you can hit it. Even I can hit a 90 mph fastball in a batting cage, and I am 53 years old. All a matter if timing, and I can hit it solid, as well.

Try hitting a 90+ fastball with good movement. It's just a little bit harder.

dsvitak · 12-29-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pancakes

Try hitting a 90+ fastball with good movement. It's just a little bit harder.

I predict that this clown will be the biggest disappointment of the year. By far.

If he had a clue, he would be pitching in the US, already, instead of sitting out the year.

Russ · 12-29-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

I predict that this clown will be the biggest disappointment of the year. By far.

If he had a clue, he would be pitching in the US, already, instead of sitting out the year.

Why? Why not take $15M for nothing instead of exposing yourself?

Skipaway · 12-29-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

I predict that this clown will be the biggest disappointment of the year. By far.

If he had a clue, he would be pitching in the US, already, instead of sitting out the year.

What are you talking about? Insulting a person like that?

He just defected in July. After that, he was trying to establish a residency somewhere and applying for the free agent status in MLB.

What do you mean by sitting out?

yankeesrule · 12-29-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak

I predict that this clown will be the biggest disappointment of the year. By far.

If he had a clue, he would be pitching in the US, already, instead of sitting out the year.

no one expects him to be pitching this year. everyone has said he will be a project. however, he will be a project that already has 1 great pitch and if he can work on his command and improve his other pitches, could be a front end pitcher.

Skipaway · 12-29-2009, 07:44 PM

He's probably gonna pitch in AA and then get a September call up to be a mop up pitcher. Maybe ready for MLB a couple of years down the road. There is no hurry for him to pitch right now. He can wait for the spring training.

He's going to get more money than drafted prospects simply because he's on the open market.

RBLwebguy · 01-10-2010, 02:07 PM

According to

Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that Cuban LHP Aroldis Chapman has agreed to a $30 million deal and it may be with the Reds.

12-23-2009, 05:51 PM	#1
nwuhockey Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	Ardolis Chapman Who do you think is he going to? Well I heard it is only FLA and BOS for offers right now, but rumors have also leaked that TB, CHC, CHWS, and NYY are going to make offers. I think he is beast as chisox.

12-23-2009, 06:06 PM	#2
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The thought is that he's going to start at AA wherever he goes. I think FLA has the best shot. Perhaps they're going to start spending some money with their new park opening in a couple years. __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.

12-23-2009, 06:30 PM	#8
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Contreras has had a few good years. Not like the hype, though. __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.

12-23-2009, 06:41 PM	#10
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	He is very raw with no usable secondary pitch. Really an expensive toy only rich team should gamble on. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

12-29-2009, 07:44 PM	#19
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	He's probably gonna pitch in AA and then get a September call up to be a mop up pitcher. Maybe ready for MLB a couple of years down the road. There is no hurry for him to pitch right now. He can wait for the spring training. He's going to get more money than drafted prospects simply because he's on the open market. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

12-23-2009, 06:19 PM	#3
nwuhockey Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	They do have a pretty good shot, but I think he will start inn bullpen on opening day wherever he goes.

12-23-2009, 06:24 PM	#5
nwuhockey Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	Know what would be a good matchup, say chap signs with FLA, it would be FLA-WAS, Stras v.s. Chap.

12-23-2009, 06:28 PM	#7
nwuhockey Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	Yeah but remember contreras, signed a big ass deal with the yanks and wound up to be horrible, hopefully chap it the real deal.

12-23-2009, 06:33 PM	#9
nwuhockey Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	I think the hype is what kills it. So much expectation, so much money, waisted. lol

01-10-2010, 02:07 PM	#20
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that Cuban LHP Aroldis Chapman has agreed to a $30 million deal and it may be with the Reds.