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Old 04-16-2009, 04:09 PM   #1
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OOTP 10 available on Steam?

Hello, new to the forums so I am not sure if this has been asked before or not. I was introduced to the OOTP series through Steam and I was curious if the new OOTP 10 will be made available for purchase and download off the Steam client like the previous OOTP 9 was. This would be my prefered way to make the purchase if it was possible so I am curious if this option will again be availble. Thanks!
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:29 AM   #2
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Steam did not produce a lot of revenue for us unfortunately. We have not decided yet if we continue this route this year.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:56 AM   #3
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I would have purchased from STEAM last year, but I had already ordered the product from your website, personally I would much prefer STEAM. I will hold off from purchase this year and wait for a definate STEAM or not STEAM answer.

If you do release on STEAM, it may be better to make sure you can get the product from STEAM on the day of release not weeks later...
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:20 AM   #4
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What are the benefits of purchasing over Stream instead of through the normal option.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:30 AM   #5
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Steam did not produce a lot of revenue for us unfortunately.
Given the size of the Steam user base, that's shocking.

I keep harking back to that study about dropping prices and increasing revenue. Maybe a price drop on Steam sales might make a difference.

Good luck in any case.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:29 PM   #6
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You guys never got any coverage on Steam aside from the initial release, which couldn't have helped. Other games get bumped up quite often - for updates (which are made available directly through Steam), for sales, weekend spotlight deals, etc. And in case Malleus and myself are thinking of the same study...

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Valve co-founder Gabe Newell announced during a DICE keynote today that last weekend's half-price sale of Left 4 Dead resulted in a 3000% increase in sales of the game, posting overall sales that beat the title's original launch performance. Newell also mentioned that new Steam customers jumped 1600% over the same weekend, according to G4TV. Retail sales remained constant. Sales of Team Fortress 2 went up 106% following a free update to the game. Retail wasn't left out in this case, with sales jumping 28%.

The massive Steam holiday sale was also a big win for Valve and its partners. The following holiday sales data was released, showing the sales breakdown organized by price reduction:

* 10% sale = 35% increase in sales (real dollars, not units shipped)
* 25% sale = 245% increase in sales
* 50% sale = 320% increase in sales
* 75% sale = 1470% increase in sales
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:35 PM   #7
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What are the benefits of purchasing over Stream instead of through the normal option.
What I like about Steam is all my games are basicly in one place that way. The big selling point for me with Steam though was that once you purchase something through Steam, you can always download it from them at any time in case you get a new computer, or something happens to your computer. You can be at a friends place and just log into your Steam account and then download the game there for play. I just am not a big fan of the whole boxes/books/cds thing anymore. I know you can purchase the game online here and download it much in the same way, but I guess since I already have all my billing and account information in one place I get too lazy to put it out on every other site when purchasing things. I guess for me, Steam is just a convienent way to buy PC games.

Even if its not available on Steam I still plan on getting OOTP 10, but I would love to see it on there ;p I'll just wait a bit longer for an official answer before purchasing is all.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:19 PM   #8
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Even if its not available on Steam I still plan on getting OOTP 10, but I would love to see it on there ;p I'll just wait a bit longer for an official answer before purchasing is all.
Just a tip, but Markus and company make more money when you buy directly from them. Gotta keep the funding for OOTP11 going.
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* 10% sale = 35% increase in sales (real dollars, not units shipped)
* 25% sale = 245% increase in sales
* 50% sale = 320% increase in sales
* 75% sale = 1470% increase in sales
That's the one.
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:40 AM   #10
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Steam did not produce a lot of revenue for us unfortunately. We have not decided yet if we continue this route this year.
That is a big disappointment. I purchased through Steam and planned to do it again.
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:30 AM   #11
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Why not give it a try and see if you can work around the problems you had last year? I say almost everything is worth a second shot as long as it doesn't seriously hurt you or kill you.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:16 AM   #12
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I am also hoping that this version will be available on steam.
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:57 PM   #13
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I really thought that Steam would work out for OOTP and I also hope that OOTP X is available on Steam.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:55 AM   #14
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Hi

Did the STEAM issue ever get solved? ie is it coming to STEAM??

I am tempted by this release, but for sure would purchased if it was in STEAM, and I didn't have to worry about patching and so on...

I am in the UK mind you, so sometimes we dont get all the games released on STEAM.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:08 AM   #15
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must be an old dog new trick thing but I always looked at needing Steam to play a game as a hassle.
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Yeah, maybe a generational thing, but Steam wouldn't work for me.

That being said, if the customer base wants it, why not?
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Yeah, maybe a generational thing, but Steam wouldn't work for me.

That being said, if the customer base wants it, why not?
Because Steam gets a cut as the middle man. Steam doesn't really do anything. It just inserts itself between developers and customers. If it doesn't draw many new users in, you're just giving it money for no reason.
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must be an old dog new trick thing but I always looked at needing Steam to play a game as a hassle.
I understand that if you move between places and computers a lot that Steam is just the thing for a mobile gamer. Wherever he goes he logs into Steam on whatever computer is around and all his games are immediately available.
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Because Steam gets a cut as the middle man. Steam doesn't really do anything. It just inserts itself between developers and customers. If it doesn't draw many new users in, you're just giving it money for no reason.
Yeah, that would not make sense unless the numbers were huge.
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I understand that if you move between places and computers a lot that Steam is just the thing for a mobile gamer. Wherever he goes he logs into Steam on whatever computer is around and all his games are immediately available.

that makes sense and further cements my old guy feelings about it. The only time I am on computers that are not mine, I am working on them - so fire up a game on steam is not really something I would ever do.

I have ootp on my primary desktop and on my laptop, so that is all I would ever need.

I am curious on how it handles customization and leagues and stuff. I could see a day where all my leagues, ballparks, logos, facegen, etc are all in the cloud somewhere and I can log in with my desktop or laptop and have everything exactly the way I want it. Since I spend half my playing time customizing that stuff I could see some real value in that. Not to mention everything backed up - maybe that is the future of the OOTP online brand.
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