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Old 07-28-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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Exclamation NABA Quick Start now available via Add-Ons Central. (with RonCo Dev, SkyDog settings)

First off, please do not PM or IM me for support or questions. Please post in this thread or one of the ones referenced herein if you have questions.

EDIT: This has been redone from scratch for OOTP13. The new thread can be found here: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...p13-ready.html

INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
1. Cut a hole in a box.
2. Put yo' ju...



No, really.

1. Load up any saved game in OOTP.
2. Go to Game Menu | Add-ons Central.
3. Click "Add Server", and in the box, paste in the following path: http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp/ootp13.xml
4. You will see the NABA file with a "download" link next to it. Download it.
5. After downloading is completed, the "download" will change to "install." Install it.
6. You should now be able to do a "New Quickstart game" and see the NABA.

Here are the details...






NABA OVERVIEW

The North American Baseball Alliance is a ready-to-go Quick Start league with 24 teams, 2 leagues, 6 teams in each division. The idea behind it was to create a league with teams in relatively large cities in North America, with nicknames and logos that are tied in some way to the city, thus making them easier to associate. Here's the league structure, along with stadium info for the teams:


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Old 07-28-2008, 02:46 PM   #2
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The "OVL" field in the table above represents the overall net effect of the park's factors, with the details out to the right. A value of 1.000 in OVL would correlate to a ballpark in which stats that are about average for the league are produced. Anything above 1.05, and that stadium will probably be a noticeable hitters' park. Anything below 0.95, and you're looking at a pitchers' park.


I'm not particularly good at unis. I just grabbed logos from the big site linked in the mods forum, and matched the uniform colors. Here's a sampling.


EASTERN CIRCUIT, NORTHEAST DIVISION
(Baltimore Blue Claws, Massachusetts Pilgrims, New York Enforcers, Philadelphia Freedom, Toronto Fire, Washington Federals)




EASTERN CIRCUIT, SOUTHEAST DIVISION

(Charlotte Cougars, Georgia Rattlesnakes, Havan Pirates, Lowcountry Gators, Nashville Hawks, Orlando Seminoles)




WESTERN CIRCUIT, COASTAL DIVISION

(Los Angeles Whales, Oakland Black Knights, San Diego Sunshine, San Francisco Gold Rush, Seattle Steelheads, Vancouver Lumberjacks)




WESTERN CIRCUIT, SOUTHWEST DIVISION

(Dallas Oil Kings, Houston Lone Stars, Lousiana Crawfish, Mexico City Aztecs, Oklahoma City Tornado, Phoenix Apaches)






EXPANSION TEAMS AVAILABLE TO DATE

(Columbus Mudcats (SE DIVISION), Pittsburgh Coal Miners (NE DIVISON))

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Old 07-28-2008, 02:47 PM   #3
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NABA STATISTICS

This league uses RonCo's recommended player development settings, along with my recommended statistical settings, to produce statistical output that is something of a broad-brush of baseball from 1980-2004. The idea is that no changes need to be made in stats from season to season, so that a 40-HR season means the same thing in 2000 that it does in 2010, 2020, and 2090. 60HR in a season is possible, but not likely, and the low 40s might lead the league in a given season. League-wide ERAs will be a bit above 4.00, and it's possible for a stud pitcher to turn in an ERA under 2.00.

Here's a look at the statistical leaders in the most recent season. First hitting:


Of note...
  • Although two players broke 50 HRs this season, only 11 broke 30. I love a league in which less than half of the teams have a 30-HR guy.
  • The league had a 230-hit guy, but only four broke 200.
  • There's more speed in the NABA than we see these days. While it's unlikely that anyone on an AI team in the NABA can match Rickey's 130 steals, 100+ is doable
Now, a look at current-year pitching:

Notes...
  • As mentioned earlier, an ERA under 2.00 is possible, but 2.51 was good enough to lead the league this year.
  • Gotta love that outlier in strikeouts: only 5 guys broke 200, and he got 326. (I suspect 360 or so is the ceiling.)
  • Jesus Pagan is just sick, by the way. In the 25 years of history included with this QS, Pagan has 8 of the best 9 strikeout seasons. He's the classic example of why I love the OOTP outliers.
As far as league-wide numbers, here they are over 25 seasons:




Here are a few league-wide numbers over those 25 years, compared to NL numbers from 1980-2004. (NL only, because this league uses no DH.)

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="4" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="55"><col width="53"><col width="91"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17" width="55">
</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center" width="53">NABA</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center" width="91">NL 1980-2004</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center" width="86">VARIANCE</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">AVG</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.2606" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.2606</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.25896" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.2590</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.00633302440531346" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">0.63%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">OBP</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.3244" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.3244</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.32663" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.3266</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="-0.00682729694149346" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">-0.68%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">SLG</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.3952" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.3952</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.396887" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.3969</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="-0.00425058013993906" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">-0.43%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">OPS</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.7196" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.7196</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.723517" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center">0.7235</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="-0.00541383270883745" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">-0.54%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" bgcolor="#000000" height="17">
</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center" bgcolor="#000000">
</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="center" bgcolor="#000000">
</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center" bgcolor="#000000">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">ERA</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="4.0297" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">4.030</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="3.984" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">3.984</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="0.0114708835341366" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">1.15%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">K/9IP</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="6.1461" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">6.146</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="6.1945" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">6.195</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="-0.00781338283961579" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">-0.78%</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdnum="1033;0;0.0000" align="left" height="17">WHIP</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="1.3489" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">1.349</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="1.3536" sdnum="1033;0;0.000" align="center">1.354</td> <td style="border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);" sdval="-0.00347222222222233" sdnum="1033;0;0.00%" align="center">-0.35%</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
As you can see, the difference is very tiny.


As far as the leaderboards through 25 seasons, here they are:


  • Keep in mind that this run is for only 25 seasons. But even as such, it's pretty clear that .400 and 60 are magical, but reachable, single-season numbers. In the 100-year sim I ran with these settings with 16 teams, two guys broke .400, and three broke 60.
  • As far as career numbers, I'm very pleased to report that even with Ron's slower development and accelerated declines, 4,000 hits and 700 homers are reachable (albeit very unlikely).


  • As mentioned above, Pagan is an absolute freak. Only one other pitcher has had an ERA under 1.92 in the first 25. That 1.496 is just sick. As you saw above, 2.50 can be good enough to lead the league.
  • Poor Julio Vargas (272 losses) apparently played on some bad teams. He went 6-16 with a 3.36 ERA one season, even. At one point he had nine straight seasons with double-digit losses. In eight of those, his ERA was below the league average.
  • The toughest thing to find a middle ground for was SP usage. I landed in a place that I feel good about, where 300 W is a possibility. I recommend 250 as automatic HOF, though.

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Old 07-28-2008, 02:47 PM   #4
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NABA PLAYER DEVELOPMENT AND DECLINE

I refer you to RonCo's thread for details, but my reasons for incorporating his dev settings into this league are as follows:
  • At default settings, far too many players were entering the league at age 19 and 20, and hitting their peak as early as age 22. With these dev settings, things are much closer to real-life norms on peaks in the 28-29 range.
  • Also with default, there were too may players performing solidly into their 40s. Those have been lessened.
  • Despite the above, there are still outlier superstars who defy the norms, and solid players who remain solid into their late 30s and early 40s. In the current season, a 39-year-old hitter had 606 ABs and a 17.2 VORP (.271-22-99-.803OPS), and a 42-year-old pitcher was 9-8 with a 4.00 ERA and a 14.3 VORP. (At 41, he was 17-7, 3.11, 37.1 VORP.)
  • Similarly, it's still fully possible for a star-to-be to make an impact in his early 20s. In the current season, a 21-year-old pitcher turned in a 3.31 ERA in 233 IP, for example.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:28 PM   #5
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A big thanks for this Sky Dog. I appreciate all the work you(along with Ronco) put into getting the perfect blend of stats so we dont have to go through all the grunt work to find the proper settings. I can always trust that if you put out a mod it will be to my liking. I took this added the two expansion teams and took over Columbus. I drafted young and it is showing as I started out 1-5 and am not scoring runs. I like the young talent and money I will be able to spend down the road so its not looking so bad

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Old 07-28-2008, 10:01 PM   #6
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This is a good league, and it's worth downloading.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:56 PM   #7
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Just a note that although Anthony Black leads the league with 579 career homeruns, he's only 32 years old. So he ought have no problems making 700. Pretty cool.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:53 PM   #8
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I like the league setup, but I am going to expand to 30 teams. Also, I want to use a smaaler season lenght, would I just scale the HOF accordingly. In other words, If I'm playing an 81 game season, then reduce HOF qualifiers by half ( instead of 3000 hits, make it 1500 hits)?

Also, Id like to use a hard salary cap. Any idea what a good number would be.

Is it possible to setup HS and college feeders? If so how many would be appropriate?
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:59 PM   #9
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Thanks to all who put in hard work on this quick start. I think I'm going to use it as a basis for an online league.

I just wanted to post that if anyone else gets an OOTP crash to desktop while attempting to setup this quickstart, just restart OOTP and load the game as a saved game. It does get setup. For some reason it just crashes the first time it tries to load.
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Old 08-14-2008, 04:28 PM   #10
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I have tried downloading/installing this program for the better part of 2 hours now, and each time I get a corrupt data base. I am following the exact instructions as posted. What do you suggest?

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Old 08-15-2008, 12:10 AM   #11
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Excellent work, guys. Absolutely top-notch.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:11 AM   #12
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I could really use some help with this process of installing a Quick Start league. I have tried to make this NABA one work for sometime now. Every time, I receive an unable to load world file, and the game crashes. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 08-15-2008, 12:38 PM   #13
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NABA rules

I wish more quick starts were available to download in this forum...
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:14 AM   #14
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I am really enjoying this Quickstart. Thanks to SkyDog and those that contributed to this.

I have only one problem with the Quickstart and I am wondering if others are experiencing this. I am getting no stats displayed on the Batting vs. Pitchers screens. Nothng is displayed on the either the player profile screen or the pregame screen. I am running the latest patched version of OOTP9 and I do not have this problem with other saved games.
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Hey guys,first of all thanks for all of your hard work its much appreciated.I do have a question for you though,I'm thinking I want to add the two expansion teams and take one of them over,how would I go about doing that,thanks.
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What size is the lg file, I keep getting to 15% at 22 mb and at 40 mb it starts over at 0% has gone to 130 mb when I cancelled
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Can this group of settings be used in an historical league starting in 1938? And can we get the final settings all here in one place? Both Ronco's and Skydogs?
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:51 PM   #18
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Nice mod, very stylish logos!
In my 1st ever season with OOTP I took the San Diego Sunshine to the Show and won, defeating the Philadelphia Freedom, in 7. The Sunshine were led by ace Steve Winston and infielders SS Paco Montes and IB Carlos Vera both of whom had career seasons- with 41 & 37 dinkers respectively. Vera is making sinister noise about his contract however- we'll see what happens in 2002.

FWIW, I made no trades during the year and managed about 50% of the games.
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What size is the lg file, I keep getting to 15% at 22 mb and at 40 mb it starts over at 0% has gone to 130 mb when I cancelled
I realize this post is pretty old, but fwiw, I believe the file size is around 135 mb.
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Hi skydogg,

Do you have a version that starts in 1977? I'm restarting with this file, but I'd like to sim a new history for the league before playing.
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