Historically Import Historical Rookies

Bottom Of The Sixth · 07-14-2008, 07:13 PM

Could someone please clarify this game option for me. I'm having a hard time understanding the difference between being imported automatically and being dumped into the draft pool?

The Game manual reads:

"If this box is checked, each year the actual rookies from the historical database will be imported into your league automatically.

Note: If you want historical rookies to be assigned to the same teams they
played for in real life, you must disable the first-year player draft, described in Section 3.4.8.5. The rookies will be imported on the first day of the preseason.

If you do not do this, all historical rookies will be dumped into the first-year
player draft pool."

Kelric · 07-14-2008, 07:28 PM

Go to your Game Setup > League Setup > Rules tab.

Under Historical Rookies Options, there is a box to automatically import rookies. If you have that selected, the game imports them. If you don't, the game doesn't.

If you have an Amateur Draft, the rookies go into the draft pool. If you disable the draft, the rookies will go to their historically correct teams. That is what the manual is trying to say.

theoutlaw321 · 07-15-2008, 08:29 AM

I think I have this right, but I would like confirmation. The players are imported in the year that they actually debut in the Majors. Is this correct?

For instance: Mike Piazza was drafted in 88. Started playing in the minors in 89. Debuted in the majors in 92.

Would he be imported in 88 or 92?

(As you can see from my noob questions, I just bought the game and haven't had an opportunity to play with it much as of yet.

)

AESP_pres · 07-15-2008, 09:50 AM

It depends of the database you use.
Lahman = first year in the major
Gambo = First year in the minor

Don't know for the other database.

Bottom Of The Sixth · 07-15-2008, 03:10 PM

Thanks Kelric!!! It makes better sense to me now

wspahn21 · 07-15-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

It depends of the database you use.
Lahman = first year in the major
Gambo = First year in the minor

Don't know for the other database.

I may be wrong but I don't think this is right.

Using the OP's Piazza example, if you are using Lahman he would come in for the 88 draft not in 92. Not sure about Gambo.

Correct me if I am wrong please.

AESP_pres · 07-15-2008, 04:35 PM

After a search in the database for the first year of Mike Piazza.

Lahman = "piazzmi01","1992","1","LAN","NL"
Gambo = piazzmi01,1988,1,LAN,NL

So yes you got Mike Piazza sooner, but I was wrong since it looks like the first year is the draft year, not the first year in the minor.

wspahn21 · 07-15-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

After a search in the database for Piazza.

Lahman = "piazzmi01","1992","1","LAN","NL"
Gambo = piazzmi01,1988,1,LAN,NL

So yes you got Mike Piazza sooner, but I was wrong since it looks like the first year is the draft year, not the first year in the minor.

Ok so I had it backwards

theoutlaw321 · 07-15-2008, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

After a search in the database for the first year of Mike Piazza.

Lahman = "piazzmi01","1992","1","LAN","NL"
Gambo = piazzmi01,1988,1,LAN,NL

So yes you got Mike Piazza sooner, but I was wrong since it looks like the first year is the draft year, not the first year in the minor.

Cool. One more question if I may. Does Gambo import all draft picks or just those that eventually make it to the majors?

AESP_pres · 07-15-2008, 06:19 PM

Only the one that have played in the major I think. The next version will have some player who have never reach the major league, but I'm not sure if it's the case with the current one.

theoutlaw321 · 07-15-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Only the one that have played in the major I think. The next version will have some player who have never reach the major league, but I'm not sure if it's the case with the current one.

So you set the league up the same as with Lahman?

AESP_pres · 07-15-2008, 07:58 PM

It's a little bit more complicated, but not that much. This is how to do it (from the readme file) :

How is the best way to use this database?
In this DB each of the Batting, Pitching and Fielding csv files is sorted by year. I also include the original LahmanDB files sorted in this way. The way to import the historical stats is to open each of my files in Notepad and delete the seasons previous to the one you start with (e.g. if you start in 1977, delete 1871-1976’s stats) then copy those seasons from the supplied Lahman (in their subdirectory) files above the remaining years in my file. Now, when you import players they will retain their original previous statistics upon import.

The 2nd directory “2007Yearly” should be used from every year on. This DB includes players actual yearly statistics and an import year stat line for player the year they made their professional debut. Using this database will import players as rookies when they made their pro debut and allow the game to adjust players as the game is designed.

07-14-2008, 07:13 PM	#1
Bottom Of The Sixth All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 1,255	Historically Import Historical Rookies Could someone please clarify this game option for me. I'm having a hard time understanding the difference between being imported automatically and being dumped into the draft pool? The Game manual reads: "If this box is checked, each year the actual rookies from the historical database will be imported into your league automatically. Note: If you want historical rookies to be assigned to the same teams they played for in real life, you must disable the first-year player draft, described in Section 3.4.8.5. The rookies will be imported on the first day of the preseason. If you do not do this, all historical rookies will be dumped into the first-year player draft pool."

07-15-2008, 04:35 PM	#7
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,208	After a search in the database for the first year of Mike Piazza. Lahman = "piazzmi01","1992","1","LAN","NL" Gambo = piazzmi01,1988,1,LAN,NL So yes you got Mike Piazza sooner, but I was wrong since it looks like the first year is the draft year, not the first year in the minor. Last edited by AESP_pres; 07-15-2008 at 04:53 PM.

07-14-2008, 07:28 PM	#2
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	Go to your Game Setup > League Setup > Rules tab. Under Historical Rookies Options, there is a box to automatically import rookies. If you have that selected, the game imports them. If you don't, the game doesn't. If you have an Amateur Draft, the rookies go into the draft pool. If you disable the draft, the rookies will go to their historically correct teams. That is what the manual is trying to say.

07-15-2008, 08:29 AM	#3
theoutlaw321 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 12	I think I have this right, but I would like confirmation. The players are imported in the year that they actually debut in the Majors. Is this correct? For instance: Mike Piazza was drafted in 88. Started playing in the minors in 89. Debuted in the majors in 92. Would he be imported in 88 or 92? (As you can see from my noob questions, I just bought the game and haven't had an opportunity to play with it much as of yet. )

07-15-2008, 09:50 AM	#4
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,208	It depends of the database you use. Lahman = first year in the major Gambo = First year in the minor Don't know for the other database.

07-15-2008, 03:10 PM	#5
Bottom Of The Sixth All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 1,255	Thanks Kelric!!! It makes better sense to me now

07-15-2008, 06:19 PM	#10
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,208	Only the one that have played in the major I think. The next version will have some player who have never reach the major league, but I'm not sure if it's the case with the current one.

07-15-2008, 07:58 PM	#12
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,208	It's a little bit more complicated, but not that much. This is how to do it (from the readme file) : How is the best way to use this database? In this DB each of the Batting, Pitching and Fielding csv files is sorted by year. I also include the original LahmanDB files sorted in this way. The way to import the historical stats is to open each of my files in Notepad and delete the seasons previous to the one you start with (e.g. if you start in 1977, delete 1871-1976’s stats) then copy those seasons from the supplied Lahman (in their subdirectory) files above the remaining years in my file. Now, when you import players they will retain their original previous statistics upon import. The 2nd directory “2007Yearly” should be used from every year on. This DB includes players actual yearly statistics and an import year stat line for player the year they made their professional debut. Using this database will import players as rookies when they made their pro debut and allow the game to adjust players as the game is designed.