Pitchers

mm7607 · 07-02-2008, 10:51 PM

I have a couple questions about pitcher usage. I started a fiction league with 1925 settings. A time when nearly every starter went 9 innings but the game produces less then 10 complete games for most pitchers. I'm using the 1925 settings so is there other ways to change this? Plus how do you use the spot starter setting. So far every version I've used going all the way back to version 1 does not use this function correctly. I've tried every thing but the rotation always follows the order. Doesn't matter which setting either, strict or next rested starter. I've selected everything from 1% to 100% uses for the spot starter and then never get used unless a SP goes on the DL. Any help please.

Cardinal Rule · 07-03-2008, 11:58 PM

OK - don't have answers to all your questions here, but I have had spot starters get used in previous versions. The game shows the next starter in your rotation in the pre-game screen, but then starts the spot starter instead. Do you play out each game or sim? How many games have you simmed without a spot start in v9?

Also, when you start a 1925 game using 1925 settings, do you notice any differences in the starting rotations? Or do the numbers look just like they should in a current-day league?

SittingDuck · 07-04-2008, 12:10 AM

Not sure what the default '25 setting is for pitcher rotations. Is it 4-man?

If so, set it at 3-man for the league and put your fav #4 pitcher in the spot starter slot. Then set the percentage at like 33-50%. Make sure you set your team at 'Highest Rested Starter'. Then let it fly.

The spot starter concept in OOTP is off. It's something that several of us have discussed for some time. It doesn't currently model the usage of spot starters properly.

pbar25 · 07-04-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

I have a couple questions about pitcher usage. I started a fiction league with 1925 settings. A time when nearly every starter went 9 innings but the game produces less then 10 complete games for most pitchers. I'm using the 1925 settings so is there other ways to change this?

I would go into GAMESETUP/LEAGUE SETUP/CLICK ON YOUR LEAGUE/STRATEGY
And then verify that you do indeed have 1925 settings. Click on the year and make sure it reads :
relievers: very rarely
closeres: very rarely
etc, etc.
It's very strange that this would be happening if the 1925 settings were in, can't think of any reason it wouldn't work and have never seen it fail.

Then verify you have all of the appropriate historical modifiers checked that you wanted.

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Originally Posted by mm7607

Plus how do you use the spot starter setting. So far every version I've used going all the way back to version 1 does not use this function correctly. I've tried every thing but the rotation always follows the order. Doesn't matter which setting either, strict or next rested starter. I've selected everything from 1% to 100% uses for the spot starter and then never get used unless a SP goes on the DL. Any help please.

Again I would verify that you have a player placed something within the 'Spot Starter' area. It's not going to matter if it's set to 'start highest rested' or 'strict order', if a pitcher is within the 'Spot Starter' area with a percentage higher then '0', he's going to eventually start a game when it's needed, or randomly. Also make sure that the spot starter is not within the rotation already. Further, I'm not completely sure, but if you are using him within other areas of your bullpen, he might be getting tired and has never been ready to start a game.

Cardinal Rule · 07-04-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pbar25

Further, I'm not completely sure, but if you are using him within other areas of your bullpen, he might be getting tired and has never been ready to start a game.

Great point - forgot about that but yes, that can be a problem because I can't recall ever seeing the game start a spot starter if he's tired.

NCBeachBum · 07-04-2008, 12:20 AM

Also, unless you make adjustments of your own, the first year never works out right. It will be righted when you move into your second season.

I always start, copy the entire league folder, and quickssim the season. Then I look for things I want to change, delete the league folder, and bring back the copy. After a few goes like that, I can usually get numbers that are close enough to reality for my tastes until the game takes them over after that first season.

And record your changes somewhere for possible future usage. A screenshot of the settings page saved in your pictures file is an easy way.

endgame · 07-04-2008, 12:26 AM

In addition, and I'm not sure and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but entering the starting year is not enough in and of itself. You need to be sure you've clicked the checkbox that imports that year's financial and strategical settings in your setup. Otherwise, the only thing you've really affected is the year the league begins.

mm7607 · 07-04-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pbar25

I would go into GAMESETUP/LEAGUE SETUP/CLICK ON YOUR LEAGUE/STRATEGY
And then verify that you do indeed have 1925 settings. Click on the year and make sure it reads :
relievers: very rarely
closeres: very rarely
etc, etc.
It's very strange that this would be happening if the 1925 settings were in, can't think of any reason it wouldn't work and have never seen it fail.

Then verify you have all of the appropriate historical modifiers checked that you wanted.

Again I would verify that you have a player placed something within the 'Spot Starter' area. It's not going to matter if it's set to 'start highest rested' or 'strict order', if a pitcher is within the 'Spot Starter' area with a percentage higher then '0', he's going to eventually start a game when it's needed, or randomly. Also make sure that the spot starter is not within the rotation already. Further, I'm not completely sure, but if you are using him within other areas of your bullpen, he might be getting tired and has never been ready to start a game.

I know the settings are right for the time frame. I'll try the 3 man thing and see what happens. Thanks for the answers, sorry I got a little impatient.

Cardinal Rule · 07-04-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

Thanks for the answers, sorry I got a little impatient.

No worries here my man - we've all been there

NCBeachBum · 07-04-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Rule

No worries here my man - we've all been there

Speak for yourself. I've never in my life lost my patience.

I never found it in the first place.

07-02-2008, 10:51 PM	#1
mm7607 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Originally from Fla, now in Ky Posts: 709	Pitchers I have a couple questions about pitcher usage. I started a fiction league with 1925 settings. A time when nearly every starter went 9 innings but the game produces less then 10 complete games for most pitchers. I'm using the 1925 settings so is there other ways to change this? Plus how do you use the spot starter setting. So far every version I've used going all the way back to version 1 does not use this function correctly. I've tried every thing but the rotation always follows the order. Doesn't matter which setting either, strict or next rested starter. I've selected everything from 1% to 100% uses for the spot starter and then never get used unless a SP goes on the DL. Any help please.

07-03-2008, 11:58 PM	#2
Cardinal Rule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Omaha Posts: 1,199	OK - don't have answers to all your questions here, but I have had spot starters get used in previous versions. The game shows the next starter in your rotation in the pre-game screen, but then starts the spot starter instead. Do you play out each game or sim? How many games have you simmed without a spot start in v9? Also, when you start a 1925 game using 1925 settings, do you notice any differences in the starting rotations? Or do the numbers look just like they should in a current-day league? __________________ "Go Crazy Folks!" Jack Buck

07-04-2008, 12:20 AM	#6
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	Also, unless you make adjustments of your own, the first year never works out right. It will be righted when you move into your second season. I always start, copy the entire league folder, and quickssim the season. Then I look for things I want to change, delete the league folder, and bring back the copy. After a few goes like that, I can usually get numbers that are close enough to reality for my tastes until the game takes them over after that first season. And record your changes somewhere for possible future usage. A screenshot of the settings page saved in your pictures file is an easy way. __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you

07-04-2008, 12:26 AM	#7
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	In addition, and I'm not sure and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but entering the starting year is not enough in and of itself. You need to be sure you've clicked the checkbox that imports that year's financial and strategical settings in your setup. Otherwise, the only thing you've really affected is the year the league begins. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

07-04-2008, 12:10 AM	#3
SittingDuck All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,834	Not sure what the default '25 setting is for pitcher rotations. Is it 4-man? If so, set it at 3-man for the league and put your fav #4 pitcher in the spot starter slot. Then set the percentage at like 33-50%. Make sure you set your team at 'Highest Rested Starter'. Then let it fly. The spot starter concept in OOTP is off. It's something that several of us have discussed for some time. It doesn't currently model the usage of spot starters properly.