"Lock Player" Function when building depth charts..

David Yellope · 06-25-2008, 07:41 AM

(I didn't put this into Suggestions for the Next version of OOTP, because it can be done with this version, and its high on my list of enhancements)

I have a guy that can play 4 positions, however, his most talented position is first base. He is a GOD at first base. He's going to win the Gold Glove 11 years out of 10, he's that good. On a scale of 1 to 20 (with spillover at the top), he's rated at THIRTY FOUR. That's right. 34. The highest 1-20 rating spillover I've ever seen.

Yet my manager and bench coach want him to play SS. I could fire my manager and bench coach till I get one who understands how good a 1B he is and keeps him there, but it would be a lot nicer just to click a little lock icon to tell the manager.. "Look.. you can have the other 8 guys whereever you want.. but he's your first baseman. Period."

Markus, is it possible that this can be coded for an upcoming patch? It's annoying as hell to take him out of SS and put him back at 1B every time I update my roster.

Ben E Lou · 06-25-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Yellope

(I didn't put this into Suggestions for the Next version of OOTP, because it can be done with this version, and its high on my list of enhancements)

I have a guy that can play 4 positions, however, his most talented position is first base. He is a GOD at first base. He's going to win the Gold Glove 11 years out of 10, he's that good. On a scale of 1 to 20 (with spillover at the top), he's rated at THIRTY FOUR. That's right. 34. The highest 1-20 rating spillover I've ever seen.

Yet my manager and bench coach want him to play SS. I could fire my manager and bench coach till I get one who understands how good a 1B he is and keeps him there, but it would be a lot nicer just to click a little lock icon to tell the manager.. "Look.. you can have the other 8 guys whereever you want.. but he's your first baseman. Period."

Markus, is it possible that this can be coded for an upcoming patch? It's annoying as hell to take him out of SS and put him back at 1B every time I update my roster.

Agree wholeheartedly.

The Wolf · 06-25-2008, 09:51 AM

Also agree wholeheartedly. Good idea.

orwell · 06-25-2008, 03:08 PM

I agree 140% (so much agreement there is a spillover effect here also!)

I also wish you could lock a player at a certain level. I am lazy and typically like to let the AI promote players between the different organizational levels. Sometimes, there are rookies I want to either keep at the majors or keep at AAA, though. In those cases, it would be nice to be able to "lock at current level" and then let AI reshuffle freely beyond that.

sporr · 06-25-2008, 03:22 PM

Very nice idea!

Carlton_Willey · 06-25-2008, 10:11 PM

I'm more concerned with adding this to my minor league system so I can assign my real prospects to the positions and levels I want. Then I can choose 'Allow AI to setup full minors' so the dross can be taken care of quickly and easily.

lahoward · 06-25-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Yellope

click a little lock icon to tell the manager.. "Look.. you can have the other 8 guys whereever you want.. but he's your first baseman. Period."

They have this type of 'lock' managing your rosters in total pro football (also known as TPF)and it works very well. i too agree very nice suggestion.

CHCfan · 06-25-2008, 10:32 PM

I've always had this idea in the back of my head as I set depth charts . . . yet never thought to say anything. So, great suggestion!

Using it for prospects in the minors is especially valuable.

Bigdummie · 06-26-2008, 09:19 AM

Thats a great idea. With all the "stuff" in the game, that would be a nice feature.

towerofpower · 06-26-2008, 10:06 AM

I'll toss in my support behind this feature as well. Sometimes the computer AI has some strange ideas on who should be your starting shortstop

among others.

Grey Dog Software's wrestling sim TEW 2008 has a "auto push" feature in it and this year's version allows the user to "lock" certain workers so the computer doesn't change them. Certainly a smaller scale than a whole baseball organization but it was a welcome feature none-the-less.

biggamejrs · 06-26-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHCfan

I've always had this idea in the back of my head as I set depth charts . . . yet never thought to say anything. So, great suggestion!

Using it for prospects in the minors is especially valuable.

Me too. These are both great ideas.

Recte44 · 06-26-2008, 10:59 AM

Can't believe we haven't thought of this before. I like using "Manage Minor Leagues" as much as the next guy, but I hate when they're jacking my top prospects all around.

Let me lock guys into a defensive position, lineup position, and/or minor league level.

falkonisback · 06-26-2008, 11:06 AM

Awesome ideas..I'm for locking both the depth chart as well as certain prospects in your minor league system. Hell, being able to lock a certain guy in a certain spot in the lineup would be pretty useful also!!

Aytumious · 06-26-2008, 11:53 AM

I also agree this would be a great addition, and after thinking about it, it seems like an obvious thing that would be needed. It adds more control while still allowing you to let the AI do its thing for the most part.

teak88 · 06-26-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Recte44

Can't believe we haven't thought of this before. I like using "Manage Minor Leagues" as much as the next guy, but I hate when they're jacking my top prospects all around.

Let me lock guys into a defensive position, lineup position, and/or minor league level.

My biggest complaint w/ the AI "managing minor lgs" is that it it optimizes the teams, not the player's development. That is, when the AI moves a 22 yo 1B prospect from AA to AAA, it has to move someone down to maintain roster limits; this is often a 30 yo journeyman (who irl is at AAA probably as an insurance option); no way should he be moved down, Said differently, pro baseball is up or out (w/ a very few limited exceptions).

It would be great if Marcus could do the "lock" as noted above, but it would also be nice if the "Manage Minors" function was one way only, ie anyone who should be in AA is moved to AA, but if I then have 28 players, I need to sort through them to decide who should be released to get to the roster limit, just like irl.

Solonor · 06-28-2008, 10:07 AM

BZ#1598 - Feature request

Base Stealer · 06-28-2008, 11:40 AM

I support this idea too

wbonnell · 06-28-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Yellope

I have a guy that can play 4 positions, however, his most talented position is first base. He is a GOD at first base. He's going to win the Gold Glove 11 years out of 10, he's that good. On a scale of 1 to 20 (with spillover at the top), he's rated at THIRTY FOUR. That's right. 34. The highest 1-20 rating spillover I've ever seen.

But does he hit enough for first base? A BP study last year by Kevin Goldstein derived the following OPS characteristics of each position. As you can see, the best hitters play 1B, because it's easier to field than other positions.

POS BAD AVG GOOD ELITE
C 666 748 826 853
1B 758 858 952 987
2B 702 762 820 862
3B 718 805 902 958
SS 666 749 829 859
LF 745 825 915 959
CF 691 777 837 851
RF 766 815 867 890

But, ya, a "lock position" feature would be nice.

RchW · 06-28-2008, 12:23 PM

Great idea. In fact it is a must if we are to be truly in control of our Baseball universe.

bosunmate · 06-28-2008, 12:55 PM

I would also like this feature, its maddening when you have a player you want to rest for a day or two with a minor injury, only to sim a week ahead and see that the computer used him and he gets a longer injury.

06-25-2008, 03:08 PM	#4
orwell Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 472	I agree 140% (so much agreement there is a spillover effect here also!) I also wish you could lock a player at a certain level. I am lazy and typically like to let the AI promote players between the different organizational levels. Sometimes, there are rookies I want to either keep at the majors or keep at AAA, though. In those cases, it would be nice to be able to "lock at current level" and then let AI reshuffle freely beyond that. __________________ "Who will scout the scouts?"

06-25-2008, 10:11 PM	#6
Carlton_Willey Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 354	I'm more concerned with adding this to my minor league system so I can assign my real prospects to the positions and levels I want. Then I can choose 'Allow AI to setup full minors' so the dross can be taken care of quickly and easily. __________________ Marilyn Monroe had gone off on a USO tour, and upon seeing DiMaggio again excitedly told him of her trip. "Joe, there were a hundred thousand people there and they were all cheering and clapping; you've never seen anything like it." "Yes, I have," DiMaggio responded.

06-26-2008, 10:59 AM	#12
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,813	Can't believe we haven't thought of this before. I like using "Manage Minor Leagues" as much as the next guy, but I hate when they're jacking my top prospects all around. Let me lock guys into a defensive position, lineup position, and/or minor league level. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

06-28-2008, 10:07 AM	#16
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,459	BZ#1598 - Feature request __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

06-28-2008, 11:40 AM	#17
Base Stealer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 120	I support this idea too __________________ Endure. In endurance grow strong.

06-25-2008, 07:41 AM	#1
David Yellope Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 116	"Lock Player" Function when building depth charts.. (I didn't put this into Suggestions for the Next version of OOTP, because it can be done with this version, and its high on my list of enhancements) I have a guy that can play 4 positions, however, his most talented position is first base. He is a GOD at first base. He's going to win the Gold Glove 11 years out of 10, he's that good. On a scale of 1 to 20 (with spillover at the top), he's rated at THIRTY FOUR. That's right. 34. The highest 1-20 rating spillover I've ever seen. Yet my manager and bench coach want him to play SS. I could fire my manager and bench coach till I get one who understands how good a 1B he is and keeps him there, but it would be a lot nicer just to click a little lock icon to tell the manager.. "Look.. you can have the other 8 guys whereever you want.. but he's your first baseman. Period." Markus, is it possible that this can be coded for an upcoming patch? It's annoying as hell to take him out of SS and put him back at 1B every time I update my roster.

06-25-2008, 03:22 PM	#5
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Very nice idea!

06-25-2008, 10:32 PM	#8
CHCfan All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grand Island, NE Posts: 1,117	I've always had this idea in the back of my head as I set depth charts . . . yet never thought to say anything. So, great suggestion! Using it for prospects in the minors is especially valuable.

06-26-2008, 09:19 AM	#9
Bigdummie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Michigan Posts: 366	Thats a great idea. With all the "stuff" in the game, that would be a nice feature.

06-26-2008, 10:06 AM	#10
towerofpower Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Canton, MA Posts: 82	I'll toss in my support behind this feature as well. Sometimes the computer AI has some strange ideas on who should be your starting shortstop among others. Grey Dog Software's wrestling sim TEW 2008 has a "auto push" feature in it and this year's version allows the user to "lock" certain workers so the computer doesn't change them. Certainly a smaller scale than a whole baseball organization but it was a welcome feature none-the-less.

06-26-2008, 11:06 AM	#13
falkonisback All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Posts: 869	Awesome ideas..I'm for locking both the depth chart as well as certain prospects in your minor league system. Hell, being able to lock a certain guy in a certain spot in the lineup would be pretty useful also!!

06-26-2008, 11:53 AM	#14
Aytumious Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268	I also agree this would be a great addition, and after thinking about it, it seems like an obvious thing that would be needed. It adds more control while still allowing you to let the AI do its thing for the most part.

06-28-2008, 12:23 PM	#19
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Great idea. In fact it is a must if we are to be truly in control of our Baseball universe. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

06-28-2008, 12:55 PM	#20
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,724	I would also like this feature, its maddening when you have a player you want to rest for a day or two with a minor injury, only to sim a week ahead and see that the computer used him and he gets a longer injury.