OOTP 4 for Apple Macintosh

Markus Heinsohn · 01-15-2002, 01:29 AM

I have decided to code an Apple Macintosh Version of Out of the Park Baseball 4 after the release of the PC version

So, if you have a friend who owns a Mac and no PC and who is looking for a baseball sim, spread the word!

Does anybode know of a system for the Mac that's similar to eLicense?

blueturf · 01-15-2002, 05:12 AM

Markus, this is the best news I have heard yet. I have had to jump through hoops to get OOTP to work on my Mac through a PC emulator.

OOTP is the only game I have purchased with e-license so I am not aware of a product for the Macintosh

Lunenburg · 01-15-2002, 09:11 AM

Now how much would we have to beg to get a Linux version out?

teekay · 01-16-2002, 08:15 AM

Markus, good luck and thanks for making this effort. As a Mac user, I know I'll be interested. Please keep us posted on your progress. Godspeed!

FormosanMonkey · 01-17-2002, 09:41 AM

Very good news, looking forward to a Mac version.

BlueTurf, how did you end up making OOTP3 work on your Mac? I use an iBook with OSX/9.2 and a while back tried OOTP3 with Virtual PC and no luck. Thanks.

blueturf · 01-18-2002, 07:43 AM

[quote]Originally posted by FormosanMonkey:
BlueTurf, how did you end up making OOTP3 work on your Mac? I use an iBook with OSX/9.2 and a while back tried OOTP3 with Virtual PC and no luck. Thanks.<hr></blockquote>

I am running OS 8.6 and using Virtual PC version 3. I believe the problem is with e-license and not OOTP. I downloaded the game, but could never get the purchase through e-license to work with Virtual PC. I later purchased the game for my PC laptop with no problems and then called via-tech for a manual license to use with Virtual PC and the game ran fine.
Recently I found Season Ticket at a local store and I have had no problems running it using Virtual PC.

Hope this helps...

FormosanMonkey · 01-18-2002, 09:48 AM

Thanks much for the information, BlueTurf. I guess I never thought of calling directly for the e-license. Will give it a try. Thanks again.

mrskippy · 01-19-2002, 07:42 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Lunenburg:
Now how much would we have to beg to get a Linux version out?

<hr></blockquote>

Probably not as much as you think. Rumor has it that AOL Time Warner is slated to buy Red Hat Linux. There's talk that AOL might "bundle" Linux with AOL and Netscape for its 32 million or so customers.

And ... there's also talk that AOL might work itself into building a box with Linux, AOL and Netscape. Possibly into the next PlayStation (since the PS is Linux-based).

Hmmm ... wonder what Microsoft will do when this comes about. "Hey Mr. Attorney General, look they're doing it now too."

Skippy

Clay Bergen · 01-22-2002, 02:38 PM

[quote]Originally posted by blueturf:


I am running OS 8.6 and using Virtual PC version 3. I believe the problem is with e-license and not OOTP. I downloaded the game, but could never get the purchase through e-license to work with Virtual PC. I later purchased the game for my PC laptop with no problems and then called via-tech for a manual license to use with Virtual PC and the game ran fine.
Recently I found Season Ticket at a local store and I have had no problems running it using Virtual PC.

Hope this helps...<hr></blockquote>

I am using 9.2 as well on an iMac and even though I have installed DirectX 8.0 several times OOTP crashes immediately on launching. Any suggestions?

Clay

blueturf · 01-22-2002, 05:23 PM

Clay...
I responded to your private message so I hope that helps.
After playing with many different settings I have found that the video memory setting on Virtual PC needs to be set as high as possible. Even with that I experienced frequent crashes.
I have installed Season Ticket Baseball and it has never crashed with the same setup. I am not sure what would be different from the 2 versions that causes issues with stability.

Your best option may be to wait for OOTP4.

Good luck,

sgstauder · 01-22-2002, 05:49 PM

A Mac version of OOTP would be great!!!! I've got it running on my PC at work but that severly limits my usage -- you know, the boss and things like that.

Ciperl · 02-26-2002, 05:23 PM

I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?

Arbiter · 02-26-2002, 05:27 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Ciperl:
I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?<hr></blockquote>

I have to come out against this, because otherwise I will never get any work done. >

Godzilla Blitz · 02-26-2002, 05:36 PM

Bravo!!!!!

I work out of a home office in graphic design and prepress stuff, and I've got both a Mac and PC here. But...

my notebook is a Mac. A baseball sim would be great for that, as I could take it on the road!

I would think a Mac version could be a fine success, as outside of Championship Manager, there is nothing on the Mac side for text-based sports sims. Hell, except for Backyard Baseball, I don't think there is even a Mac baseball game at all.

sjshaw · 04-01-2002, 06:05 AM

Status?

TheoR · 04-01-2002, 10:45 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Ciperl:
I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?<hr></blockquote>

OOTP4 does work with WINE. I loaded it up with that and had no problems. the elicense worked too.

DavidM · 04-01-2002, 08:59 PM

To the development staff, out of curiosity, have you informed any of the Mac gaming sites out the conversion? It would be a good way to gather attention, even if there is know release date. I have not seen anything mentioned at any of the sites.

Mark · 04-02-2002, 12:46 AM

Is this the 'Big Announcement'?

IngredientX · 04-02-2002, 03:11 AM

Markus, <a href="http://www.paceap.com" target="_blank">Pace Anti-Piracy</a> are pretty big dogs in the world of Mac copy protection. I remember them from my ProTools days; they had some problems when Steve Jobs decided to remove floppy drives from the Mac line on the dev equivalent of 48 hours notice (not good when your copy-protection scheme is centered around floppy disk-based keys), but they seem to be back on the ball, and offer hardware, downloadable, and/or floppy-based keys. Check 'em out.

Also, if I may briefly editorialize: many of the more fanatic Mac users are very picky about the appearance and interface of their computers and programs, sometimes overlooking its actual function. I know the previous sentence is just opening a can of napalm, but I HIGHLY recommend looking at how Mac programs set up their interface, and building that into your program. This can mean everything from adding cut/copy/paste functionality into the program to making sure the buttons look like Mac buttons to making sure the shadows fall in the right direction. I've actually heard different Mac enthusiasts in different situations complain about a program looking "too Windows." I believe Apple publishes documentation about their design standards, and what it takes to make your program look like it belongs on a Mac. They've probably retooled it lately to reflect their design of OS X; I'd suggest checking that out.

The Macintosh community can be very picky and exasperating to deal with; but they are also industrious and loyal, and if OOTP can break into their market, it could be the start of something big.

Good luck Markus!

metdenn · 06-09-2002, 03:04 PM

WHAT IS THE UPDATE ON THIS?!

01-15-2002, 01:29 AM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	OOTP 4 for Apple Macintosh I have decided to code an Apple Macintosh Version of Out of the Park Baseball 4 after the release of the PC version So, if you have a friend who owns a Mac and no PC and who is looking for a baseball sim, spread the word! Does anybode know of a system for the Mac that's similar to eLicense? __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

01-15-2002, 05:12 AM	#2
blueturf All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 516	Markus, this is the best news I have heard yet. I have had to jump through hoops to get OOTP to work on my Mac through a PC emulator. OOTP is the only game I have purchased with e-license so I am not aware of a product for the Macintosh __________________ Kalama - Fictional World Quick Start with jerseys, logos and map - Photobucket of my fictional stadiums - Stadium thread

01-18-2002, 07:43 AM	#6
blueturf All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 516	[quote]Originally posted by FormosanMonkey: <strong>BlueTurf, how did you end up making OOTP3 work on your Mac? I use an iBook with OSX/9.2 and a while back tried OOTP3 with Virtual PC and no luck. Thanks.</strong><hr></blockquote> I am running OS 8.6 and using Virtual PC version 3. I believe the problem is with e-license and not OOTP. I downloaded the game, but could never get the purchase through e-license to work with Virtual PC. I later purchased the game for my PC laptop with no problems and then called via-tech for a manual license to use with Virtual PC and the game ran fine. Recently I found Season Ticket at a local store and I have had no problems running it using Virtual PC. Hope this helps... __________________ Kalama - Fictional World Quick Start with jerseys, logos and map - Photobucket of my fictional stadiums - Stadium thread

01-19-2002, 07:42 AM	#8
mrskippy All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,011	[quote]Originally posted by Lunenburg: <strong>Now how much would we have to beg to get a Linux version out? </strong><hr></blockquote> Probably not as much as you think. Rumor has it that AOL Time Warner is slated to buy Red Hat Linux. There's talk that AOL might "bundle" Linux with AOL and Netscape for its 32 million or so customers. And ... there's also talk that AOL might work itself into building a box with Linux, AOL and Netscape. Possibly into the next PlayStation (since the PS is Linux-based). Hmmm ... wonder what Microsoft will do when this comes about. "Hey Mr. Attorney General, look they're doing it now too." Skippy

01-22-2002, 02:38 PM	#9
Clay Bergen Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 26	[quote]Originally posted by blueturf: <strong> I am running OS 8.6 and using Virtual PC version 3. I believe the problem is with e-license and not OOTP. I downloaded the game, but could never get the purchase through e-license to work with Virtual PC. I later purchased the game for my PC laptop with no problems and then called via-tech for a manual license to use with Virtual PC and the game ran fine. Recently I found Season Ticket at a local store and I have had no problems running it using Virtual PC. Hope this helps...</strong><hr></blockquote> I am using 9.2 as well on an iMac and even though I have installed DirectX 8.0 several times OOTP crashes immediately on launching. Any suggestions? Clay

01-15-2002, 09:11 AM	#3
Lunenburg Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Posts: 5	Now how much would we have to beg to get a Linux version out?

01-16-2002, 08:15 AM	#4
teekay Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9	Markus, good luck and thanks for making this effort. As a Mac user, I know I'll be interested. Please keep us posted on your progress. Godspeed!

01-17-2002, 09:41 AM	#5
FormosanMonkey Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US of A Posts: 2	Very good news, looking forward to a Mac version. BlueTurf, how did you end up making OOTP3 work on your Mac? I use an iBook with OSX/9.2 and a while back tried OOTP3 with Virtual PC and no luck. Thanks.

01-18-2002, 09:48 AM	#7
FormosanMonkey Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US of A Posts: 2	Thanks much for the information, BlueTurf. I guess I never thought of calling directly for the e-license. Will give it a try. Thanks again.

01-22-2002, 05:23 PM	#10
blueturf All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 516	Clay... I responded to your private message so I hope that helps. After playing with many different settings I have found that the video memory setting on Virtual PC needs to be set as high as possible. Even with that I experienced frequent crashes. I have installed Season Ticket Baseball and it has never crashed with the same setup. I am not sure what would be different from the 2 versions that causes issues with stability. Your best option may be to wait for OOTP4. Good luck, __________________ Kalama - Fictional World Quick Start with jerseys, logos and map - Photobucket of my fictional stadiums - Stadium thread

01-22-2002, 05:49 PM	#11
sgstauder Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Western Mass Posts: 91	A Mac version of OOTP would be great!!!! I've got it running on my PC at work but that severly limits my usage -- you know, the boss and things like that. __________________ <a href="http://www.staudernet.com/tba/" target="_blank">The Ball Alive!!! Commissioner \| Boston Red Sox</a><BR><BR><a href="http://cdl.ootp-leagues.com" target="_blank">CDL Pirates </a> \| Assistant Commish</b> \| 1990 & 1991 Champs<BR><BR> <a href="http://www.daishi.co.uk/" target="_blank">UKBL Braves</a> \| 2005 & 2010 Champs<BR> <a href="http://nahhbl.ootp-leagues.com" target="_blank">NAHHBL Seattle Mariners</a><BR> 1961 Expansion <a href="http://www.snowballhidalgo.com/" target="_blank">SHIBA LA Angels</a><BR> <a href="http://www.stauder.de/"> </a>

02-26-2002, 05:23 PM	#12
Ciperl Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 65	I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?

02-26-2002, 05:27 PM	#13
Arbiter Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: College Station TX Posts: 127	[quote]Originally posted by Ciperl: <strong>I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?</strong><hr></blockquote> I have to come out against this, because otherwise I will never get any work done. >

02-26-2002, 05:36 PM	#14
Godzilla Blitz Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14	Bravo!!!!! I work out of a home office in graphic design and prepress stuff, and I've got both a Mac and PC here. But... my notebook is a Mac. A baseball sim would be great for that, as I could take it on the road! I would think a Mac version could be a fine success, as outside of Championship Manager, there is nothing on the Mac side for text-based sports sims. Hell, except for Backyard Baseball, I don't think there is even a Mac baseball game at all.

04-01-2002, 06:05 AM	#15
sjshaw Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 236	Status?

04-01-2002, 10:45 AM	#16
TheoR Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hernando, MS Posts: 149	[quote]Originally posted by Ciperl: <strong>I'm excited by the idea of a great game being taken across platforms. I'd love to push for OOTP4 to be taken to Linux. Would OOTP4 be able to work under Wine or WineX?</strong><hr></blockquote> OOTP4 does work with WINE. I loaded it up with that and had no problems. the elicense worked too. __________________ Baseball.....What else is there?

04-01-2002, 08:59 PM	#17
DavidM Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 31	To the development staff, out of curiosity, have you informed any of the Mac gaming sites out the conversion? It would be a good way to gather attention, even if there is know release date. I have not seen anything mentioned at any of the sites.

04-02-2002, 12:46 AM	#18
Mark Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 64	Is this the 'Big Announcement'?

04-02-2002, 03:11 AM	#19
IngredientX Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 117	Markus, <a href="http://www.paceap.com" target="_blank">Pace Anti-Piracy</a> are pretty big dogs in the world of Mac copy protection. I remember them from my ProTools days; they had some problems when Steve Jobs decided to remove floppy drives from the Mac line on the dev equivalent of 48 hours notice (not good when your copy-protection scheme is centered around floppy disk-based keys), but they seem to be back on the ball, and offer hardware, downloadable, and/or floppy-based keys. Check 'em out. Also, if I may briefly editorialize: many of the more fanatic Mac users are very picky about the appearance and interface of their computers and programs, sometimes overlooking its actual function. I know the previous sentence is just opening a can of napalm, but I HIGHLY recommend looking at how Mac programs set up their interface, and building that into your program. This can mean everything from adding cut/copy/paste functionality into the program to making sure the buttons look like Mac buttons to making sure the shadows fall in the right direction. I've actually heard different Mac enthusiasts in different situations complain about a program looking "too Windows." I believe Apple publishes documentation about their design standards, and what it takes to make your program look like it belongs on a Mac. They've probably retooled it lately to reflect their design of OS X; I'd suggest checking that out. The Macintosh community can be very picky and exasperating to deal with; but they are also industrious and loyal, and if OOTP can break into their market, it could be the start of something big. Good luck Markus! __________________ "Schopenhauer was right, wouldn't you say? 'Life without pain has no meaning.' Gentlemen, I wish to give your lives meaning."

06-09-2002, 03:04 PM	#20
metdenn Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14	WHAT IS THE UPDATE ON THIS?!