Switching from Baseball Mogul?

withauthority · 04-05-2008, 04:06 AM

Is this similar? I really only play with historical years, do these play just as well/better?

Kelric · 04-05-2008, 12:56 PM

I can't compare it to Baseball Mogul, but I can say that OOTP historical leagues are great fun. You can try to keep them pretty close to what actually happened (using the recalc options, which will keep player stats as close as possible to their real life stats) or diverge off into complete fiction with historical players and teams.

rem · 04-05-2008, 02:10 PM

OOTP is much better than Baseball Mogul. I used to be a mogul player, but I never touched it again after I found OOTP.

Doughnuts? · 04-05-2008, 02:43 PM

everything about ootp is better.

withauthority · 04-05-2008, 03:58 PM

With Baseball Mogul though, its dumbly easy to start a historical leauge, you just scoll to the year on the start screen. I played around with ootp the other night and couldnt seem to figure out how to do. can you guys tell me??

DiMaggio5CF · 04-05-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by withauthority

With Baseball Mogul though, its dumbly easy to start a historical leauge, you just scoll to the year on the start screen. I played around with ootp the other night and couldnt seem to figure out how to do. can you guys tell me??

First you have to download the Lahman Database from

Home - baseball1.com

Then when you choose to Create Historical League on the game menu, just set the path to wherever you have the Database saved on your computer.

dsvitak · 04-05-2008, 09:12 PM

I enjoy Baseball Mogul, but it a "lite" baseball game, in every sense.

It IS fun to sim 10 years in 20 minutes, just reviewing the leaderboards after each year.

The statistics the game engine generates are not...accurate, with plenty of statistical outliers. I have Tris Speaker at 4900 hits, for example, and there are many posted examples of players with 1000 home runs.

Having said that, how many homers will A-Rod end up with? If he averages 45 a year until he is 40, that should also place him near 1000....

OOTP is a better SIMULATION, if that is what you are after.

Kelric · 04-06-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DiMaggio5CF

First you have to download the Lahman Database from

Home - baseball1.com

Then when you choose to Create Historical League on the game menu, just set the path to wherever you have the Database saved on your computer.

Though if you have OOTP8 instead of OOTP 2007, the Lahman Database should come with the game. I don't know how that all works as I have OOTP'07, but someone here does...

withauthority · 04-06-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

Though if you have OOTP8 instead of OOTP 2007, the Lahman Database should come with the game. I don't know how that all works as I have OOTP'07, but someone here does...

yeah this is what im talking about..

BusterKing · 04-06-2008, 05:28 PM

I quit buying Baseball Mogul when they started to introduce animals as players.

Anyone remember this?

withauthority · 04-06-2008, 10:09 PM

wow

damonrusst · 04-08-2008, 05:50 PM

Mogul is a good "gateway drug" to baseball sims. You feel very smart and powerful because you can usually win the world series within a year or two.

But then you crave something with a bit more of an edge, more danger to it, and consequently, a better high, so you switch to OOTP which actually makes you play close to real baseball rules with waivers, DLs, etc. Then once you've graduated to the harder stuff, Mogul just doesn't have the same appeal.

My two cents....

Erik W. · 04-09-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by damonrusst

Mogul is a good "gateway drug" to baseball sims. You feel very smart and powerful because you can usually win the world series within a year or two.

But then you crave something with a bit more of an edge, more danger to it, and consequently, a better high, so you switch to OOTP which actually makes you play close to real baseball rules with waivers, DLs, etc. Then once you've graduated to the harder stuff, Mogul just doesn't have the same appeal.

My two cents....

Yup.

I played the heck out of Mogul... '98 I think it was. I even had everyone at my office playing it. But then I found OOTP2 and I've never looked back.

I try Mogul every other year or so just for nostalgia sake, but over a decade into the franchise, and their sim engine still stinks, and there is still no position player fatigue. Pretty inexcusable.

bosunmate · 04-09-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

Yup.

I played the heck out of Mogul... '98 I think it was. I even had everyone at my office playing it. But then I found OOTP2 and I've never looked back.

I try Mogul every other year or so just for nostalgia sake, but over a decade into the franchise, and their sim engine still stinks, and there is still no position player fatigue. Pretty inexcusable.

I also use to play Mogul and have never gone back.

04-05-2008, 04:06 AM	#1
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04-05-2008, 02:10 PM	#3
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	OOTP is much better than Baseball Mogul. I used to be a mogul player, but I never touched it again after I found OOTP. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

04-05-2008, 03:58 PM	#5
withauthority Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22	With Baseball Mogul though, its dumbly easy to start a historical leauge, you just scoll to the year on the start screen. I played around with ootp the other night and couldnt seem to figure out how to do. can you guys tell me?? __________________ www.myspace.com/missdeecole

04-06-2008, 10:09 PM	#11
withauthority Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22	wow __________________ www.myspace.com/missdeecole

04-05-2008, 12:56 PM	#2
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I can't compare it to Baseball Mogul, but I can say that OOTP historical leagues are great fun. You can try to keep them pretty close to what actually happened (using the recalc options, which will keep player stats as close as possible to their real life stats) or diverge off into complete fiction with historical players and teams.

04-05-2008, 02:43 PM	#4
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	everything about ootp is better.

04-05-2008, 09:12 PM	#7
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,404	I enjoy Baseball Mogul, but it a "lite" baseball game, in every sense. It IS fun to sim 10 years in 20 minutes, just reviewing the leaderboards after each year. The statistics the game engine generates are not...accurate, with plenty of statistical outliers. I have Tris Speaker at 4900 hits, for example, and there are many posted examples of players with 1000 home runs. Having said that, how many homers will A-Rod end up with? If he averages 45 a year until he is 40, that should also place him near 1000.... OOTP is a better SIMULATION, if that is what you are after.

04-06-2008, 05:28 PM	#10
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,433	I quit buying Baseball Mogul when they started to introduce animals as players. Anyone remember this?

04-08-2008, 05:50 PM	#12
damonrusst Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 470	Mogul is a good "gateway drug" to baseball sims. You feel very smart and powerful because you can usually win the world series within a year or two. But then you crave something with a bit more of an edge, more danger to it, and consequently, a better high, so you switch to OOTP which actually makes you play close to real baseball rules with waivers, DLs, etc. Then once you've graduated to the harder stuff, Mogul just doesn't have the same appeal. My two cents....