You know you play ootp to much when...

Dargone · 10-14-2002, 04:11 AM

After simming the latest season in your solo league you complain, loudly, to your girlfriend that Jim "Smash" Mazzola, beloved rf of the Philadelphia Lumberjacks, was robbed in the golden bat voting. As she looks at you with that puzzled expression, guys you know what I mean, you begin to explain to her that "Smash" did way more for his team then that scrub Butch "The Oak" O'Neil. While she continues to wonder what in the hell is wrong with my boyfriend, you enter into a sabermetrics rant that would make Bill James proud. After she leaves the room you grab your next can of soda, sit back down and begrudgingly press proceed to next season. All the while talking to your monitor, "it's ok Smash we all know who really won the golden bat this year." Thanks, once again, for a great game

darkhorse · 10-14-2002, 05:20 AM

OOTP needs to allow you to set your own criteria for awards. RC or RC/27 would be much better criteria than triple crown numbers for awarding MVP. Would be nice if the game generated Gold Glove Awards and once again allowed you to input the criteria.

Jason Moyer · 10-14-2002, 05:39 AM

I dunno. I agree that you should be able to set criteria for winning awards, but I think that the way the game handles it is realistic. 9 times out of 10 the guy who wins MVP is whomever leads the league in RBI, just like real life. Yes, I'm talking to you Andre Dawson.

Jason

Dargone · 10-14-2002, 06:14 AM

To get back on topic

Here is another great moment when I realized that I play ootp waaaaay to much...Game six of the Federal League Championship series 1952, the Phoenix Dukes lead by one run over the Dallas Bandits. Samuel Palermo, beloved cf for the Dukes, makes a game winning catch at the wall to send the dukes to the series and win the pennant. I jumped out of my chair and pumped my fist about three times. The above mentioned girlfriend(see earlier post) looks up from her book and shakes her head. I quickly explained that Palermo had been in baseball hell for the past five seasons playing for the lowly Las Vegas Rhinos and he is a consistent threat to win the golden bat every year and he deserves to be in the series. It means so much to the city of Phoenix, yada, yada, yada. After I've explained all this I get a pat on the head and she leaves the room to go and read in the bedroom. How anyone could leave during all that excitement is beyond me...

darkhorse · 10-14-2002, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jason Moyer
I dunno. I agree that you should be able to set criteria for winning awards, but I think that the way the game handles it is realistic. 9 times out of 10 the guy who wins MVP is whomever leads the league in RBI, just like real life. Yes, I'm talking to you Andre Dawson.

Jason

True, but I'll take better awards over realism anytime in a league I play in.

Jason Moyer · 10-14-2002, 06:24 AM

To get back off topic, etc etc jellyfish etc etc win shares etc etc saran wrap etc etc toothpaste etc etc Bonds vs Ruth part 23.

I discovered I was playing too much OOTP when I realized nothing I did could make the solo game difficult, winning 130 games and the world series with a $2.5 million payroll and a house rule specifying that my starting rotation had to consist of ambidextrous 14 year old girls with learning disabilities.

Jason

Jason Moyer · 10-14-2002, 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
True, but I'll take better awards over realism anytime in a league I play in.

It would be cool if we could base the awards on Win Shares!! Or if it were at least possible to calculate them from the statistics in the game.

Jason

darkhorse · 10-14-2002, 06:29 AM

I won the World Series in season one of my first OOTP solo league with the pitiful 1985 Texas Rangers. I've played almost exclusively in Online Leagues since then. Still the best baseball sim I have yet played.

darkhorse · 10-14-2002, 06:30 AM

Oh, and using WinShares for awards would be an extremely cool feature.

Jason Moyer · 10-14-2002, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
the best baseball sim I have yet played.

Same here, although admittedly the competition is incredibly thin. I can think of exactly 3 baseball games for the PC that offer a financial-based career mode, and the 2 that aren't OOTP have flaws that would make better statistical analysis tools useless. My incessant whining about the lack of stats that are tracked in OOTP should be taken as a reflection of my faith in the simulation's ability to generate good numbers rather than a gripe about a huge flaw in the product.

Also, while we're adding Win Shares and all the subcategories that are necessary to calculate them (home/away splits, the current RC formula, deeper fielding stats, league/team splits, etc) I'd like to be able to tailor the GM AI in the same way the manager AI can be tweaked. It would be cool to create a league where there are some Billy Beane type GM's, some Schuerholz type GM's, and then your run of the mill whomever-is-mismanaging-the-Mets-this-year type GM's. Actually, a fun way of doing this would be the ability to customize the way each team's general manager calculates player values...

Getting back off topic, how about those fundamentalist chicken hawk christian punk band snipers?

Jason

Gastric ReFlux · 10-14-2002, 10:55 AM

...when you watch a game on TV and think the left fielder has a range of E.

...you turn on closed captioning for the TV so you can get that OOTP feel while watching.

LivnLegend · 10-14-2002, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
...you turn on closed captioning for the TV so you can get that OOTP feel while watching.

Now that's funny!

BadVlad · 10-14-2002, 01:17 PM

... you can sense around town that the fan interest increased slightly because the Padres won on "visor day".

VT Os fan · 10-14-2002, 01:38 PM

...when you watch a game on TV featuring a team you manage in OOTP and think to yourself, "What's he doing playing first base? Didn't I trade that guy last week?"

Nirvana91 · 10-14-2002, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by BadVlad
... you can sense around town that the fan interest increased slightly because the Padres won on "visor day".

I rarely laugh out loud at a post.....But man, that was a classic.

I'll go ahead and add my own.

.....you own Season Ticket Baseball 2003, then proceed to also buy OOTP4 anyways just because a small additional feature is included.

Dargone · 10-14-2002, 07:32 PM

... you haven't shaved because your team is on a roll.

Cooleyvol · 10-14-2002, 09:21 PM

........you just can't seem to stop creating online leagues........

MannyTrillo · 10-15-2002, 02:19 AM

... when a blank out-of-town scoreboard in the upper left-hand corner fills you with a feeling of awe and reverence.

No lie- I once glanced up at the blank out of town scoreboard (which means it's either the All-Star Game, the World Series, or some other postseason series when all the other series have concluded) and felt a tingle in the back of my neck.

Gastric ReFlux · 10-15-2002, 10:47 AM

...when you know city officials will attribute your city's population increase to the baseball team's success of the past season.

...you read a book about baseball's past and wonder what are these things called doubleheaders.

...you write an essay for school that examines the growth of television markets from 1900 to 1950.

Dxgarnett · 10-15-2002, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Jason Moyer

Getting back off topic, how about those fundamentalist chicken hawk christian punk band snipers?

Jason

Like MxPx, Mark Needs a Chick, and Slick Shoes?

Chris

10-14-2002, 04:11 AM	#1
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	You know you play ootp to much when... After simming the latest season in your solo league you complain, loudly, to your girlfriend that Jim "Smash" Mazzola, beloved rf of the Philadelphia Lumberjacks, was robbed in the golden bat voting. As she looks at you with that puzzled expression, guys you know what I mean, you begin to explain to her that "Smash" did way more for his team then that scrub Butch "The Oak" O'Neil. While she continues to wonder what in the hell is wrong with my boyfriend, you enter into a sabermetrics rant that would make Bill James proud. After she leaves the room you grab your next can of soda, sit back down and begrudgingly press proceed to next season. All the while talking to your monitor, "it's ok Smash we all know who really won the golden bat this year." Thanks, once again, for a great game __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell Last edited by Dargone; 10-14-2002 at 06:51 AM.

10-14-2002, 05:20 AM	#2
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	OOTP needs to allow you to set your own criteria for awards. RC or RC/27 would be much better criteria than triple crown numbers for awarding MVP. Would be nice if the game generated Gold Glove Awards and once again allowed you to input the criteria. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

10-14-2002, 05:39 AM	#3
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,108	I dunno. I agree that you should be able to set criteria for winning awards, but I think that the way the game handles it is realistic. 9 times out of 10 the guy who wins MVP is whomever leads the league in RBI, just like real life. Yes, I'm talking to you Andre Dawson. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

10-14-2002, 06:14 AM	#4
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	To get back on topic Here is another great moment when I realized that I play ootp waaaaay to much...Game six of the Federal League Championship series 1952, the Phoenix Dukes lead by one run over the Dallas Bandits. Samuel Palermo, beloved cf for the Dukes, makes a game winning catch at the wall to send the dukes to the series and win the pennant. I jumped out of my chair and pumped my fist about three times. The above mentioned girlfriend(see earlier post) looks up from her book and shakes her head. I quickly explained that Palermo had been in baseball hell for the past five seasons playing for the lowly Las Vegas Rhinos and he is a consistent threat to win the golden bat every year and he deserves to be in the series. It means so much to the city of Phoenix, yada, yada, yada. After I've explained all this I get a pat on the head and she leaves the room to go and read in the bedroom. How anyone could leave during all that excitement is beyond me... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-14-2002, 06:24 AM	#6
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,108	To get back off topic, etc etc jellyfish etc etc win shares etc etc saran wrap etc etc toothpaste etc etc Bonds vs Ruth part 23. I discovered I was playing too much OOTP when I realized nothing I did could make the solo game difficult, winning 130 games and the world series with a $2.5 million payroll and a house rule specifying that my starting rotation had to consist of ambidextrous 14 year old girls with learning disabilities. Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

10-14-2002, 06:29 AM	#8
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	I won the World Series in season one of my first OOTP solo league with the pitiful 1985 Texas Rangers. I've played almost exclusively in Online Leagues since then. Still the best baseball sim I have yet played. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

10-14-2002, 06:30 AM	#9
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Oh, and using WinShares for awards would be an extremely cool feature. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

10-14-2002, 10:55 AM	#11
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	...when you watch a game on TV and think the left fielder has a range of E. ...you turn on closed captioning for the TV so you can get that OOTP feel while watching.

10-14-2002, 01:17 PM	#13
BadVlad Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: My Pants Posts: 87	... you can sense around town that the fan interest increased slightly because the Padres won on "visor day".

10-14-2002, 01:38 PM	#14
VT Os fan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia Tech (Blacksburg, Virginia) Posts: 226	...when you watch a game on TV featuring a team you manage in OOTP and think to yourself, "What's he doing playing first base? Didn't I trade that guy last week?" __________________ "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." -- Ayn Rand

10-14-2002, 07:32 PM	#16
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	... you haven't shaved because your team is on a roll. __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

10-14-2002, 09:21 PM	#17
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	........you just can't seem to stop creating online leagues........

10-15-2002, 02:19 AM	#18
MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	... when a blank out-of-town scoreboard in the upper left-hand corner fills you with a feeling of awe and reverence. No lie- I once glanced up at the blank out of town scoreboard (which means it's either the All-Star Game, the World Series, or some other postseason series when all the other series have concluded) and felt a tingle in the back of my neck. __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join

10-15-2002, 10:47 AM	#19
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	...when you know city officials will attribute your city's population increase to the baseball team's success of the past season. ...you read a book about baseball's past and wonder what are these things called doubleheaders. ...you write an essay for school that examines the growth of television markets from 1900 to 1950.