Tigers Set To Accquire Cabrera, Willis

Zoso1515 · 12-04-2007, 06:29 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...tnered=rss_mlb

For Miller, Maybin + 4

lewis31lewis52 · 12-04-2007, 06:41 PM

I can't believe this.

Why did we give up Maybin, Miller, and 4 other prospects for Cabrera and Willis? Willis hasn't had a great season in years. I can only hope he does good because he's in a pitcher's park now.

Big Hugg · 12-04-2007, 06:47 PM

Gammons says it's done.

Willis, Cabrera for Maybin, Miller, Rabelo and 3 others.

I'm giddy right now.

CONN CHRIS · 12-04-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis31lewis52

I can't believe this.

Why did we give up Maybin, Miller, and 4 other prospects for Cabrera and Willis? Willis hasn't had a great season in years. I can only hope he does good because he's in a pitcher's park now.

I am content to trust Dombrowski on this. He has made some very good decissions for the club thus far.

I am excited!

mh2365 · 12-04-2007, 06:54 PM

I got to think the Tigers are getting the better of this deal. Cabrera is down 15lbs already from the end of the season.

lewis31lewis52 · 12-04-2007, 06:58 PM

I absolutely love getting Cabrera. He's a top-5 player in all of baseball, but I don't see the point in giving up 6 prospects, including Miller and Maybin, for him and Willis. Dontrelle just isn't the player he used to be.

Zoso1515 · 12-04-2007, 06:59 PM

Rabelo isn't a prospect and I'm glad he won't be eating any more at-bats.

1998 Yankees · 12-04-2007, 07:06 PM

Wow, this is not good. I'd rather Cabrera and Willis had stayed in Miami.

mauboy · 12-04-2007, 07:07 PM

WHOA is all I need to say.

This offseason has already gotten off to a bangin' start... or middle.

Big Hugg · 12-04-2007, 07:13 PM

One of the 3 pitching prospects is Eulogio De La Cruz.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3141703

Big Hugg · 12-04-2007, 07:21 PM

And the other 2 are Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop.

bababui · 12-04-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

I got to think the Tigers are getting the better of this deal. Cabrera is down 15lbs already from the end of the season.

It should be a red flag that Cabrera is losing weight in the off season and only because he is looking for a new team. Perhaps he has matured but acquiring him at such a high price in young talent is a big gamble. Will he be motivated to play well and stay in shape in a city and area like Detroit; or will he regress and go back up to 265 and be unhappy and a malcontent?

theasfl · 12-04-2007, 07:27 PM

I just died a little

bababui · 12-04-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

I just died a little

In the long run this could well be a blessing in disguise for the Marlins.

KC · 12-04-2007, 08:04 PM

Blessing in disguise for the Marlins?

I've been impressed with Andrew Miller, and willing to say that he is at par, if not better, than Willis now. Maybin, from what I recall, is a prospect with speed, and the potential for power. He'll be the teams answer to center field next year, right? They weren't going to keep Cabrera, so being able to land some young, cheap talent is very good.

I'm distracted, so I'm not sure I'm making sense. But, when I read about the trade, I thought the Tigers gave up too much. If they wanted a third baseman so badly, why not go after Scott Rolen without parting with such promising talent?

lewis31lewis52 · 12-04-2007, 08:10 PM

Because Cabrera is the second best third baseman in baseball, maybe? We get him with 2 years of arbitration left, too, so it's not like we're paying market worth right now anyway.

The more and more I think about this trade, the more I love it. As always, there's no promise Miller and Maybin pan out, and Cabrera is already a proven talent. Being second to A-Rod at third is no insult, and it's not like Detroit is known for it's night life. I think Sheffield can keep him in check, and he doesn't have the weight of an entire franchise on his shoulders now, too.

theasfl · 12-04-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

In the long run this could well be a blessing in disguise for the Marlins.

We'll the usual club clock says World Series in 2009, this should make it 2010...but I was hoping they'd finally try to hold onto a player as their marquee guy so buying a jersey would actually be worth-while. Not to mention Miggy is amazing, and I never say that word. Part of it is Detroit not being my favorite of teams (I'd have preferred him going to the Angels, or Red Sox if Lowell had gotten away), but thats not that big a deal...its just a little salt in the wound- though I should have thought about Dombrowski. If he had gone to the Yankees I would have cried.

To see Willis and Dontrelle go at the same time is a little painful as well, though it is nice for the two of them. Hopefully they dont turn into the future version of Beckett and Lowell now though.

Now I just hope some long-term plan on them staying here comes to fruition, but this could be another blow against it.

bababui · 12-04-2007, 08:18 PM

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Because Cabrera is the second best [offensive] third baseman in baseball, maybe?

Fixed

But he will hurt your defense and he has a history of being undisciplined. Its a huge risk. Its likely he will be DH only material sometime on the future.

But, in the hearts of fans, hope always springs eternal.

Big Hugg · 12-04-2007, 08:20 PM

Cabrera's "issues" are overblown.

theasfl · 12-04-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Hugg

Cabrera's "issues" are overblown.

what he said, especially moving from Miami to Detroit.

As for defense: He came up as a shortstop, he had defensive abilities and he has them now- he went from SS to LF to 3B in a short period and he's adapted well as times gone on.

12-04-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
Zoso1515 Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 507 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Tigers Set To Accquire Cabrera, Willis http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...tnered=rss_mlb For Miller, Maybin + 4

12-04-2007, 06:41 PM	#2
lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 580	I can't believe this. Why did we give up Maybin, Miller, and 4 other prospects for Cabrera and Willis? Willis hasn't had a great season in years. I can only hope he does good because he's in a pitcher's park now. __________________

12-04-2007, 06:58 PM	#6
lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 580	I absolutely love getting Cabrera. He's a top-5 player in all of baseball, but I don't see the point in giving up 6 prospects, including Miller and Maybin, for him and Willis. Dontrelle just isn't the player he used to be. __________________

12-04-2007, 07:27 PM	#13
theasfl Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Coral Springs, FL or Orlando, FL (UCF) Posts: 7,988	I just died a little __________________ All-Sports Fantasy League The ASFL 22 different games, 9 sports. Please check out the website (www.theasfl.com/asfl2/). The league is free- if you're interested please fill out the signup form and/or email the commissioner. Miami Talons (ABL): 2004, 2005 & 2008 Champs

12-04-2007, 08:04 PM	#15
KC Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: On my ass, you wanker. Now, sod off. Posts: 400	Blessing in disguise for the Marlins? I've been impressed with Andrew Miller, and willing to say that he is at par, if not better, than Willis now. Maybin, from what I recall, is a prospect with speed, and the potential for power. He'll be the teams answer to center field next year, right? They weren't going to keep Cabrera, so being able to land some young, cheap talent is very good. I'm distracted, so I'm not sure I'm making sense. But, when I read about the trade, I thought the Tigers gave up too much. If they wanted a third baseman so badly, why not go after Scott Rolen without parting with such promising talent? __________________ KC Ted Williams: "When you foul a pitch off, does it ever smell like scorched wood?" Mark McGwire: "All the time."

12-04-2007, 06:47 PM	#3
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	Gammons says it's done. Willis, Cabrera for Maybin, Miller, Rabelo and 3 others. I'm giddy right now.

12-04-2007, 06:54 PM	#5
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I got to think the Tigers are getting the better of this deal. Cabrera is down 15lbs already from the end of the season.

12-04-2007, 06:59 PM	#7
Zoso1515 Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 507 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Rabelo isn't a prospect and I'm glad he won't be eating any more at-bats.

12-04-2007, 07:06 PM	#8
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Wow, this is not good. I'd rather Cabrera and Willis had stayed in Miami.

12-04-2007, 07:07 PM	#9
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	WHOA is all I need to say. This offseason has already gotten off to a bangin' start... or middle.

12-04-2007, 07:13 PM	#10
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	One of the 3 pitching prospects is Eulogio De La Cruz. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3141703

12-04-2007, 07:21 PM	#11
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	And the other 2 are Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop.

12-04-2007, 08:10 PM	#16
lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 580	Because Cabrera is the second best third baseman in baseball, maybe? We get him with 2 years of arbitration left, too, so it's not like we're paying market worth right now anyway. The more and more I think about this trade, the more I love it. As always, there's no promise Miller and Maybin pan out, and Cabrera is already a proven talent. Being second to A-Rod at third is no insult, and it's not like Detroit is known for it's night life. I think Sheffield can keep him in check, and he doesn't have the weight of an entire franchise on his shoulders now, too. __________________

12-04-2007, 08:20 PM	#19
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	Cabrera's "issues" are overblown.