Players eligible for Rule V after 1 year?

Coreyettinger · 11-20-2007, 11:11 PM

I'm a little confused here, I thought a player had to have at been on a pro roster for at least 3 years before becoming eligible for the Rule V draft. But I have many players who are eligible far sooner. Why?

The Wolf · 11-20-2007, 11:17 PM

Actually it's five years if signed at age 18- or four years if signed at age 19+.

tysok · 11-20-2007, 11:22 PM

Has to have been playing in the minors for 4 years, or 5 or 3 or whatever it is, and not be on the 40 man (secondary) roster. I haven't noticed it doing anything different or wrong there.

Coreyettinger · 11-21-2007, 04:24 AM

While I appreciate the clarification on the exact qualifications for RV eligibility, I actually had an entirely separate question that was at the heart of my post.

Perhaps a screenshot will help. Note the age - time as a professional - the Rule V eligibility - as well as the number of options remaining.

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/abraxas01/RVeligible.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

Answers? This is occurring with LOTS of guys.

Coreyettinger · 11-24-2007, 07:11 PM

anyone?

rem · 11-24-2007, 08:03 PM

hmph. That's werid.

Coreyettinger · 11-24-2007, 08:21 PM

Yeah, it is. I'd like to know how to fix it. Or if it even can be fixed.

Nutlaw · 11-25-2007, 11:12 AM

He has zero days as a professional? Did you clear everyone's service times? Are you checking this the day he was drafted? What happens when you advance one day?

Coreyettinger · 11-26-2007, 06:54 PM

Correct, he has no service time, and as I stated, this is happening for a ton of guys, not just him. f you need me to post more screenshots, I can.

No, I haven't cleared service times, nor was this on the day he was drafted.

I downloaded Cubbyfan's 2008 rosters and this is just the way a lot of guys are. And no, advancing a day, or even many months has no effect no this.

statfreak · 11-26-2007, 07:16 PM

it appears to be a problem with the roster set. If you haven't already, post in the roster thread or contact the creator.

You may be able to use the editor to change each player, but I am not 100% sure.

Sorry that wasn't the most helpful answer.

PSUColonel · 11-26-2007, 07:36 PM

see what happens once these players begin accumulating time as a professional, because many players with 1-3 years are NOT eligible for the RV draft.

Le Grande Orange · 11-26-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Actually it's five years if signed at age 18- or four years if signed at age 19+.

Those are the current MLB rules. In the past things were a bit different.

SandMan · 11-26-2007, 11:28 PM

My guess is that the roster creator used players and just editted the birth dates, ages, and bio information. Then cleared out the service time. There is probably a hidden value in each player that sets his status for the rule 5 draft. The player would then be rule 5 eligible because that is his status, regardless of the bio and service time being altered.... I hope this makes sense.

PSUColonel · 11-26-2007, 11:55 PM

I tested this, and yes indeed it's a big problem.. I'm sick of starting careers only to find out all of these problems. Another career down the crapper.

CobaltJays · 11-27-2007, 12:14 AM

In the past I recall having this problem with guys signed as minor league free agents, although I just tried duplicating it now and was unable to.

The Wolf · 11-27-2007, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Those are the current MLB rules. In the past things were a bit different.

And this is important here why?

rwd59 · 11-28-2007, 09:18 PM

I have had to turn the rule V off because of the same problem. I am playing historical using Lahman and every rookie imported to my team becomes Rule V eligible as soon as I place him in the minors.

Le Grande Orange · 11-29-2007, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

And this is important here why?

To show that MLB rules are not static and the changes which have happened over the years are worth considering. The most recent change came about in conjunction with the negotiations for the 2007 CBA.

And as an item of general interest.

The Wolf · 11-29-2007, 02:25 AM

And you really thought we didn't know that the rules weren't static?

statfreak · 11-29-2007, 10:30 AM

to be honest, I really didn't know what the rules were. I'm still not sure I do, but at least I know more than I did before. Thanks!

11-20-2007, 11:11 PM	#1
Coreyettinger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	Players eligible for Rule V after 1 year? I'm a little confused here, I thought a player had to have at been on a pro roster for at least 3 years before becoming eligible for the Rule V draft. But I have many players who are eligible far sooner. Why?

11-20-2007, 11:22 PM	#3
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	Has to have been playing in the minors for 4 years, or 5 or 3 or whatever it is, and not be on the 40 man (secondary) roster. I haven't noticed it doing anything different or wrong there. __________________ I don't know about you, but as for me, the question has already been answered: Should we be here? Yes! Jack Buck, September 17, 2001 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. I firmly believe that any man's finest hour... is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious. (Vince Lombardi) I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom. (George S. Patton)

11-24-2007, 08:03 PM	#6
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	hmph. That's werid. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

11-26-2007, 07:16 PM	#10
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	it appears to be a problem with the roster set. If you haven't already, post in the roster thread or contact the creator. You may be able to use the editor to change each player, but I am not 100% sure. Sorry that wasn't the most helpful answer. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

11-26-2007, 07:36 PM	#11
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,107	see what happens once these players begin accumulating time as a professional, because many players with 1-3 years are NOT eligible for the RV draft. Last edited by PSUColonel; 11-26-2007 at 07:47 PM.

11-21-2007, 04:24 AM	#4
Coreyettinger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	While I appreciate the clarification on the exact qualifications for RV eligibility, I actually had an entirely separate question that was at the heart of my post. Perhaps a screenshot will help. Note the age - time as a professional - the Rule V eligibility - as well as the number of options remaining. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/abraxas01/RVeligible.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> Answers? This is occurring with LOTS of guys.

11-24-2007, 07:11 PM	#5
Coreyettinger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	anyone?

11-24-2007, 08:21 PM	#7
Coreyettinger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	Yeah, it is. I'd like to know how to fix it. Or if it even can be fixed.

11-25-2007, 11:12 AM	#8
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	He has zero days as a professional? Did you clear everyone's service times? Are you checking this the day he was drafted? What happens when you advance one day?

11-26-2007, 06:54 PM	#9
Coreyettinger Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 28	Correct, he has no service time, and as I stated, this is happening for a ton of guys, not just him. f you need me to post more screenshots, I can. No, I haven't cleared service times, nor was this on the day he was drafted. I downloaded Cubbyfan's 2008 rosters and this is just the way a lot of guys are. And no, advancing a day, or even many months has no effect no this.

11-26-2007, 11:28 PM	#13
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	My guess is that the roster creator used players and just editted the birth dates, ages, and bio information. Then cleared out the service time. There is probably a hidden value in each player that sets his status for the rule 5 draft. The player would then be rule 5 eligible because that is his status, regardless of the bio and service time being altered.... I hope this makes sense.

11-26-2007, 11:55 PM	#14
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,107	I tested this, and yes indeed it's a big problem.. I'm sick of starting careers only to find out all of these problems. Another career down the crapper.

11-27-2007, 12:14 AM	#15
CobaltJays All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 706	In the past I recall having this problem with guys signed as minor league free agents, although I just tried duplicating it now and was unable to.

11-28-2007, 09:18 PM	#17
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 934	I have had to turn the rule V off because of the same problem. I am playing historical using Lahman and every rookie imported to my team becomes Rule V eligible as soon as I place him in the minors.

11-29-2007, 10:30 AM	#20
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	to be honest, I really didn't know what the rules were. I'm still not sure I do, but at least I know more than I did before. Thanks! __________________ Roll out the barrel!