Starting at 1901, should I turn on financial?

pat · 08-23-2007, 10:25 AM

I'm just wondering because I saw a player sign an extension. Is that normal? Or should I just turn it on when Free Agency hits?

ejbucs · 08-23-2007, 01:32 PM

I keep it on, because with the financial system, you still have to take budgets and players salary into account. I don't see why extensions would be an issue.

pat · 08-23-2007, 06:07 PM

Thanks.

Charlie Hough · 08-24-2007, 10:30 PM

The only drawback to using financials with historical play is that the average salaries for players are completely unrealistic. They're far too high. If you can accept the lack of realism, then turn finances on or spend some time to adjust the figures yourself. If you import the financial settings automatically, you'll end up with salaries that are far too high for each era.

pat · 08-25-2007, 11:21 AM

I noticed that too with the extensions. I thought they made it possible to have a realistically salary figures in any era. Oh well.

Thanks.

Charlie Hough · 08-25-2007, 05:35 PM

You can set realistic salaries, but you have to do the research and change the settings yourself. The automatic historical financial settings simply aren't true to real life. They're better than playing with modern day settings, but they're still far too high compared to the real salaries of those times.

Le Grande Orange · 08-25-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

You can set realistic salaries, but you have to do the research and change the settings yourself. The automatic historical financial settings simply aren't true to real life. They're better than playing with modern day settings, but they're still far too high compared to the real salaries of those times.

The problem is that there is relatively little solid data on the salaries and finances of earlier years. You can find bits and pieces but then you have to fill in a lot of the blanks with educated guesses.

There are also a few issues regarding how the financial model works in the game.

Charlie Hough · 08-25-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The problem is that there is relatively little solid data on the salaries and finances of earlier years. You can find bits and pieces but then you have to fill in a lot of the blanks with educated guesses.

Well, there is pretty good documentation on the top paid players throughout baseball history. For example, we know what Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax got after their famous dual holdout. And their salaries, which were the highest in baseball at the time, were nowhere near the salaries for top superstars from the same era in OOTP.

We know what guys like Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, and many other top players made in various decades, and we know that they were the best paid in all of MLB. So, at the very least, we know what the maximums should be.

There is also an excellent source of information that covers 1920 to the present day at http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/haupert.mlb

08-23-2007, 10:25 AM	#1
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	Starting at 1901, should I turn on financial? I'm just wondering because I saw a player sign an extension. Is that normal? Or should I just turn it on when Free Agency hits? __________________ Co-Founder & Technical Director at ExaWeb Corporation, an SEO company in the Philippines. Previous Leagues - Time Warp Baseball / International Federation of Baseball / Professional Baseball Replay League / No Pepper Baseball League / MLB Pro Current OOTP 24 Leagues - Sim Sports Gaming - (2016-Present) Washington Nationals (2016-2022) *2017 Champions Oakland Athletics (2023-Present)

08-23-2007, 01:32 PM	#2
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08-23-2007, 06:07 PM	#3
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	Thanks. __________________ Co-Founder & Technical Director at ExaWeb Corporation, an SEO company in the Philippines. Previous Leagues - Time Warp Baseball / International Federation of Baseball / Professional Baseball Replay League / No Pepper Baseball League / MLB Pro Current OOTP 24 Leagues - Sim Sports Gaming - (2016-Present) Washington Nationals (2016-2022) *2017 Champions Oakland Athletics (2023-Present)

08-25-2007, 11:21 AM	#5
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	I noticed that too with the extensions. I thought they made it possible to have a realistically salary figures in any era. Oh well. Thanks. __________________ Co-Founder & Technical Director at ExaWeb Corporation, an SEO company in the Philippines. Previous Leagues - Time Warp Baseball / International Federation of Baseball / Professional Baseball Replay League / No Pepper Baseball League / MLB Pro Current OOTP 24 Leagues - Sim Sports Gaming - (2016-Present) Washington Nationals (2016-2022) *2017 Champions Oakland Athletics (2023-Present)

08-24-2007, 10:30 PM	#4
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,644	The only drawback to using financials with historical play is that the average salaries for players are completely unrealistic. They're far too high. If you can accept the lack of realism, then turn finances on or spend some time to adjust the figures yourself. If you import the financial settings automatically, you'll end up with salaries that are far too high for each era.

08-25-2007, 05:35 PM	#6
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,644	You can set realistic salaries, but you have to do the research and change the settings yourself. The automatic historical financial settings simply aren't true to real life. They're better than playing with modern day settings, but they're still far too high compared to the real salaries of those times.