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08-12-2007, 02:47 PM
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Pasttime: An Alternative MLB History
I was talking to a friend from the Mountain West and was trying to convey the main differences of how major league baseball is so ingrained in the culture of cities like New York, Boston and St. Louis among others.
So I started thinking about it and thought it might be interesting to see what it would be like if baseball hadn't gotten started or grown in the places it was originally..and to basically create the same setup that we're used to today, but have different franchises, from different places and with completely different histories. Also, I wanted to see if I could create a pretty organic league where the talent came from high school and college feeders almost entirely. It hasn't been 100% that way because of the way the game is setup when you let it simulate multiple seasons while adjusting the league strategy and such...but, it's still interesting to see how it works. So, I'm going to start in 2006...but before we get there, I'll be recapping each of the teams in the league and the histories of the teams and their standout players throughout history, to give you an idea of who we're dealing with. Divisional play began in 1962 and the designated hitter rule has yet to be adopted as of the 1999 season. The World Series is and remains a best-of-nine game tilt. There has never been interleague play and the LCS is best-of-seven games. The season is 162-games. ALIGNMENT AS OF THE END OF THE 1999 SEASON Quote:
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08-12-2007, 02:58 PM
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EXPANSION IN THE DIVISIONAL ERA
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08-12-2007, 03:03 PM
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TEAM-BY-TEAM HISTORICAL CAPSULES (To the end of the 1999 season)
ATLANTA FIRECRACKERS (1901-1952, Louisville Colonels, (1953-present, Atlanta Firecrackers) WORLD SERIES TITLES (8): 1905, 1930, 1933, 1951, 1954, 1989, 1990, 1996 NL PENNANTS (22): 1905, 1912, 1913, 1916, 1921, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1953, 1955, 1971, 1972, 1994, 1999 NL EAST PENNANTS (9): 1971, 1972, 1977, 1984, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999 Legends of the Game: ATLANTA FIRECRACKERS #1 Sloan Sullivan (1949-1955), 2nd Base/3rd Base Sullivan might have gone into the Hall of Fame as a Keokuk Comet, but he cut his teeth with the Louisville/Atlanta franchise. He went UNDRAFTED in 1950, but quickly established himself first at the 1950 NL Rookie of the Year with Louisville, before winning the 1951 NL MVP. He went with the team in 1953 to Atlanta and spent three seasons as a Firecracker before moving on to Phoenix in 1956.) #38 TONY "The Tiger" MITCHELL (1965-1980), Left Field Tony Mitchell is synonymous with greatness in Atlanta. He sent his entire career as a Firecracker and is still the franchise leader in homers with 414 and RBI at 1514. He won 3 gold gloves and was a 6-time All-Star during his career. #18 RONALD ROSS (1973-1993), Pitcher Another lifer who spent his career as a Firecracker, Ronald Ross is the standard bearer for Atlanta hurlers. He won 20+ games five times and ended his career with 308 wins, a franchise record. His 2.79 career ERA is 5th all-time in franchise history. Last edited by darkcloud4579; 08-12-2007 at 05:04 PM. |
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08-12-2007, 03:06 PM
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BALTIMORE COLTS
(1962-1974, Norfolk Tides 1975-present, Baltimore Colts) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 0 AL PENNANTS: 1: 1988 AL EAST TITLES 2 : 1988, 1989 If you're looking for a franchise that epitomizes futility, it's this one. Until their breakthrough seasons in 1988 and 1989 when they managed to win an AL pennant and won the division the following yea,r this team spent the first 25 years of its existence no higher than 4th place and they only did that three times during that span. Since 1992, the team hasn't finished higher than 5th. Always a rumored candidate to be headed elsewhere, the Colts are the doormats of the American League. LEGENDS OF THE GAME: Fred "Daddy LongLegs White", #45, Pitcher Fred White was born and raised in Baltimore and was drafted by Keokuk out of the University of Oklahoma in 1962. He spent from 1962-1974 as a member of the Comets Big Red Machine, winning 6 top pitcher award during that span. In 1975, at 37-years old he requested a trade to his new hometown team in Baltimore and was allowed to go. He managed to win another three Top Pitcher awards in Baltimore and was named to five more All-Star games. He finished his career in Montreal where he won another Top Pitcher in 1980. He's always said that he was glad he got to pitcher at home and even went to the lengths of living in the same house he grew up in during the season. "It was always a trip that I could walk out of the same door that I did as a schoolboy, but instead of going to learn reading for Mrs. Jones or arithmetic from Mr. Sadler, I was throwing heat at Memorial Stadium and not only was I not skipping school, I was getting paid for it. It was such a hoot." In 1990, MLB renamed the Top Pitcher award the Fred White Award. |
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08-12-2007, 03:09 PM
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BIRMINGHAM BARONS
(1924-present, Birmingham Barons) WORLD SERIES TITLES: (4) 1946, 1949, 1971, 1980 AL PENNANTS (7) 1931, 1943, 1943 AL EAST TITLES (5) 1971, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1984 I'll get back to the Legends of the game section eventually, I just want to get through all of the team's and to recap their histories a bit before moving on. If you decide to 'adopt' a favourite team, then I'll focus on them a bit more, too. |
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08-12-2007, 03:12 PM
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BOSTON BROWNS
(1901-1913, St. Louis Browns, 1914-1948 Providence Browns, 1949-present Boston Browns) WORLD SERIES TITLES(4) 1922, 1924, 1929, 1939 NL PENNANTS (8) 1910, 1941, 1978, 1980) NL EAST TITLES (5) 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980 |
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08-12-2007, 03:12 PM
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BROOKLYN KINGS
(1924-1948, Omaha Royals, 1949-present Brooklyn Kings) WORLD SERIES TITLES (4) 1931, 1959, 1997, 1998 NL PENNANTS (5) 1956 NL EAST TITLES (3) 1981, 1997, 1998 CHICAGO WHALES (1901-1910 Indianapolis Greens, 1911-present, Chicago Whales) WORLD SERIES TITLES (2) 1903, 1938 NL PENNANTS (5) 1902, 1918, 1949 NL WEST TITLES (3) 1978, 1988, 1994 CHICAGO CYCLONES (1901-1961, Rochester Red Wings, 1962-present, Chicago Cyclones) The Cyclones transferred from the National League to the American League in 1962, upon their move to Chicago to protect the territorial rights of the Chicago Whales, who play on the South Side of Chicago. The Cyclones are the team of the North Side. WORLD SERIES TITLES (4) 1917, 1933, 1935, 1957 LEAGUE PENNANTS (9) 1919, 1923, 1934, 1937, 1958 AL WEST TITLES (3) 1969, 1973, 1975 COLORADO SPRINGS SKY SOX (1901-1948, Tacoma Rainiers, 1949-present, Colorado Springs Sky Sox) WORLD SERIES TITLES (3) 1934, 1977, 1984 AL PENNANTS (8) 1923, 1933, 1935, 1936, 1987 AL WEST TITLES (4) 1974, 1977, 1984, 1987 COLUMBUS CLIPPERS (1901-1910, Saint Paul Saints, 1911-present, Columbus Clippers) Say you're looking for a team that epitomizes greatness. Need a team that's the best at what they do year in and year out? Trying to find the 'evil empire' of this MLB universe? Look no further than...Columbus, Ohio? Maybe it's that real world long-time Yankee affiliation that recently ended that's rubbed off into this game, but the Clippers are simply the class of Major League Baseball in this universe. 13 World Series titles are the most of any team, as are their 29 postseason appearances. WORLD SERIES TITLES (13) 1901, 1908, 1912, 1913, 14, 1916, 1923, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1965, 1969 AMERICAN LEAGUE PENNANTS (26) 1904, 1919, 1932, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1954, 1957, 1968, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1993 AL EAST TITLES (11) 1965, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1990, 1993 If you want to feel better about your bandwagon jumping ways, you can simply tell anyone who teases you that the team hasn't won a World Series since 1972 and that they've only made two post-season appearances since 1976. So...it's surely sometimes rough, even at the top. DETROIT MUSTANGS (1901-1910, Sioux City Cornhuskers, 1911-1923, Nashville Sounds, 1924-1967 Dallas Travelers, 1968-present Detroit Mustangs) WORLD SERIES TITLES (5) 1945, 1948, 1952, 1976, 1987 NL PENNANTS (7) 1901, 1914, 1924, 1944, 1946, 1950, 1970 NL WEST TITLES (5) 1970, 1976, 1986, 1987 FRESNO GRIZZLIES (1949-1961, Phoenix Firebirds, 1962-present Fresno Grizzlies) WORLD SERIES TITLES 1973 NL PENNANTS (1) NL WEST TITLES 1962, 1973, 1980, 1997 KANSAS CITY ELITES (1901-1910 Hartford Dark Blues, 1911-1923, Jersey City Whites, 1924-1952, Jersey City White Sox, 1953-1975 Jersey City Elites, 1976-present, Kansas City Elites) WORLD SERIES TITLES (7) 1909, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1961, 1981, 1995 NL PENNANTS (12) 1908, 1915, 1917, 1960, 1962, DIVISION TITLES (13) 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1972, 1981, 1990, 1995 |
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08-12-2007, 03:14 PM
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I'll finish the team history capsules next, but I wanted to share a little story with you, that I think will whet your thistle about what's to come in this particular MLB iteration.
SLUGGERVILLE If you want a glimpse at how the steroid era in real life might look to people looking at it in the future, the 1950-1970 era in The Major Leagues might be a good glimpse. Prior to this time, no one hit home runs. It was just a rare occurrence and hardly a priority in the game. But the offensive explosion that commenced during this period of time in baseball was simply unparalleled and might never be matched again. Among these was the man who simply in a class by himself. With a work ethic that was unparalleled in sports prior to his arrival, he simply approached the game with a focus and dedication that yielded results that no one ever expects to see duplicated. Simply put, Sloan The Slugger Sullivan, established a pace that'll never be duplicated. Here are just a smattering of his achievements: Quote:
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08-12-2007, 03:39 PM
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Nice job so far. What kind of settings are you using to get those kind of numbers?
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08-12-2007, 03:43 PM
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Well, when I simmed the first forty years or so, the settings didn't alter from the early 1900s and so, we had no real power hitters in the game. Once I caught the problem, the power hitters started to emerge, but I just wanted a Ruthian figure. That particular Sullivan guy was on his way anyway...but I just decided to make him a little better and see what history did. And boy, it made things interesting.
The only major settings change is that injuries and fatigue are on low rather than average or high. |
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08-12-2007, 03:59 PM
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Great read so far, very interesing set up!!
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08-12-2007, 04:00 PM
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Ah, got ya, I was just curious to as how Sullivan played so well, now I know.
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08-12-2007, 04:03 PM
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KEOKUK COMETS
So, you're the type looking for the Green Bay Packers of Baseball, eh? Look no further than the Keokuk (IA) Comets. The team spent from 1901-1913 in Kansas City. But in 1914, Bud K.P. Moore, purchased the team and decided to move it to his hometown of Keokuk, Iowa. The hamlet of less than 20,000 people on the Mississippi River was an unlike place for a major league baseball team, except maybe for the fact that it converges along the lines of the borders of Illinois and Missouri, too. The team never won a pennant from the time it moved to Keokuk, its four previous World Series titles all came in Kansas City between 1904 and 1911. Anyway, the team managed to survive well into the 1960s, but barely. Moore refused to sell and refused to move the team. But, when Moore was basically into his 100s and on the brink of death, many possible owners were salivating at the opportunity to buy the team and conversely, there were some MLB owners who felt the "small-town experiment" had come to to a close in the burgeoning era of big-business baseball to come. But, a group of local investors spanning well into rural Illinois and Missouri -- all who have adopted the team as their own -- as well as the Iowa faithful from throughout the state, created the Keokuk Community Professional Baseball Club, Inc., and acquired the franchise in 1962, ensuring that the club will never be moved out of Keokuk, due to the community trust setup of the ownership structure. The community luck must've worked. The team won its first World Series in 1963. Repeated in 1964 and won three straight from 1966-68. They went from the doormats of MLB to one of the recent standard-bearing franchises. But unlike a big city club, they're hard to hate and have a fan base that spans the nation and the globe. WORLD SERIES TITLES: 9 1904, 1906, 1907, 1911, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1967, 1968 NATIONAL LEAGUE PENNANTS: 14 1965, 1977, 1979, 1984, 1985 NATIONAL LEAGUE WEST DIVISION TITLES: 14 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1977, 1979, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1996 |
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08-12-2007, 04:19 PM
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Go Mustangs!
Wow, Detroit won the WS in 1945, just like they did in real life.
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08-12-2007, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
 Interesting start. I'll be following. I bet Comets fans are real glory hunting bastards, huh?
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08-12-2007, 04:26 PM
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WOOOO, looks like I'll be rooting for Keokuk.
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08-12-2007, 04:32 PM
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08-12-2007, 04:34 PM
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08-12-2007, 04:44 PM
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LOS ANGELES ANGELS
(1901-present, Los Angeles Angels) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 5 1902, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1985 AMERICAN LEAGUE PENNANTS: 8 1951, 1976, 1998 AMERICAN LEAGUE WEST DIVISION CHAMPS: 8 1976, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1988, 1998 LOS ANGELES STARS (1977-present, Los Angeles Stars) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 0 NL PENNANTS: 0 NL WEST TITLES: 1 (1998) MEMPHIS BLUES WORLD SERIES TITLES: 0 NL PENNANTS: 0 NL EAST TITLES: 2 (1993, 1995) MIAMI MARLINS (1901-1948, Toledo Mud Hens 1949-1967, Philadelphia Colonials, 1968-present, Miami Marlins) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 2 1960, 1962 AL PENNANTS: 3 1982 AL EAST TITLES: 6 1962, 1963, 1964, 1977, 1982, 1991 MONTREAL ROYALS (1977-present, Montreal Royals) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 0 AL PENNANTS: 0 AL EAST TITLES: 1 (1985) NEW ORLEANS ZEPHYRS (1924-1952 New Orleans Pelicans, 1953-present New Orleans Zephyrs) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 1 (1950) AL PENNANTS: (7) 1959, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1996 AL WEST TITLES: (8) 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1990, 1996 NEW YORK BOMBERS (1901-1910 Boise Hawks, 1911-1923 Wichita Wranglers, 1924-1962 New York Bombers) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 1 1910 NL PENNANTS: 3 1903, 1906 NL EAST TITLES: 3 1971, 1973, 1982 NEW YORK HIGHLANDERS (1901-1948, Portland Beavers, 1949-1952, San Antonio Missions, 1953-present New York Highlanders) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 7 1915, 1918, 1920, 1921, 1925, 1928, 1986 AL PENNANTS: 11 1942, 1952, 1967, 1997 AL EAST TITLES: 6 1966, 1967, 1986, 1987, 1997, 1998 PHILADELPHIA BLUE JAYS (1901-1948, New York Metropolitans, 1949-present, Philadelphia Blue Jays) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 3 1936, 1987, 1991 NL PENNANTS: 6 1947, 1969, 1986 NL EAST TITLES: 9 1969, 1970, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1992 SALT LAKE CITY BEES (1977-present, Salt Lake City Bees) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 0 AL PENNANTS: 0 AL WEST TITLES: 1 (1988) |
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08-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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SAN FRANCISCO SEALS
(1901-1910 Colorado Springs Sky Sox, 1911-present, San Francisco Seals) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 2 1937, 1944 AL TITLES: 9 1906, 1909, 1911, 1922, 1929, 1945, 1981 AL WEST TITLES: 3 1972, 1980, 1981 SEATTLE PILOTS (1962-present, Seattle Pilots) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 1 (1970) AL PENNANTS: 3 1991, 1995 AL WEST TITLES: 10 1967, 1970, 1971, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997 TAMPA YANKEES Why in God's name would a team in the south call itself the Yankees? Simple. To let people KNOW where the owners are from. When oil and cattle magnate P.D. Barnes decided to relocate his ballclub from the Rockies in Casper, Wyoming to Tampa, Florida in 1924, most thought he was crazy for going from one extreme to the other. But in retrospect, it seems he's figured out pretty vividly that Tampa would eventually become snowbird country and that the swamplands would be come prime real estate for who else -- but lots of Yankees. WORLD SERIES TITLES: 8 1926, 1927, 1940, 1947, 1958, 1992, 1994, 1999 AL PENNANTS: 8 1905 AL EAST TITLES: 8 1979, 1981, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999 TORONTO MARLIES (1962-present, Toronto Marlies) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 1974 NL PENNANTS: 1 NL EAST TITLES: 1 VANCOUVER CANADIANS (1962-present, Vancouver Canadians) WORLD SERIES TITLES: 3 1975, 1982, 1993 NL PENNANTS: 5 1983, 1992 NL WEST TITLES: 6 1975, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1991, 1992, 1993 Last edited by darkcloud4579; 08-12-2007 at 05:03 PM. |
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