Crash on pitcher injury

Aaron Spew · 04-13-2007, 01:47 AM

OK, this has happened twice now while playing out a game, and this time it happened on game 6 of the world series! GRRR

Basically what happens is the pitcher gets injured and it brings me to the substitutions menu. I pick a pitcher and try to drag him down to the spot where the previous pitcher was (on the substitutions menu) and BAM, OOTP locks up and I loose everything.

I took one of my dummy leagues and took a middle reliever with a super small endurance, edited his injury ratings and pitched him until he became injured, and sure enough, he got injured, and BAM, lockup.

I don't play out many games, but this seems like a HUGE bug.

AS

Nutlaw · 04-13-2007, 07:01 PM

Thanks for reporting this. It was previously listed as TT 171 and thought to be fixed. It was resubmitted for examination by the coders.

Aaron Spew · 04-13-2007, 07:22 PM

I should add that this has happened on both the original release and the patched version, if that matters

AS

HH20xx convert · 04-16-2007, 06:56 PM

I also had a game crash with a pitcher injury---the crash happened at the conclusion of the play-by-play dialog. The pitcher was injured on the last pitch concluding the half-inning. OOTP version was post-patch.

james17 · 04-26-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron Spew

I should add that this has happened on both the original release and the patched version, if that matters

AS

Happened to me on patched version also.

Big Orange · 05-04-2007, 10:46 PM

This happened to me TWICE in two days when a pitcher was injured and I was managing the team.

My question is: does the game ever NOT crash when a pitcher from your own team gets injured???

Nutlaw · 05-05-2007, 08:53 AM

This has been claimed fixed for the beta version of patch 2. Has anyone seen this crash using that version yet?

hefalumps · 10-22-2007, 10:22 PM

I just had the same thing happen to me using the latest Patch 3 (2.0.3.68). Was playing out a game - my pitcher got hurt - and as soon as the PbP was over, game crashed to desktop with the same message. I did not notice if it was the last out of the inning or not. So this is still not fixed - hopefully it can be found and quashed before OOTP 9.

I think it being the last out of the inning is the key factor here. Somehow OOTP isn't processing this part properly.

I hope this doesn't happen on every pitcher injury, because I like to play out all of my games. If the game crashes every time a pitcher gets hurt, then none of my pitchers are ever going to get hurt, which is extremely unrealistic. If that's the case, this issue really should have been focused on for inclusion in the last patch. If it's only on the final out of the inning, I'll just tell my pitchers to be real careful getting that third out. :

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munson66 · 11-08-2007, 12:22 PM

I'm running Version 2.0.3.68 with Mac OS X (10.4.10). Bottom of 5th inning, I'm managing the team. My starting pitcher gets hurt on final play of inning. Pop-up box appears to tell me about the injury, then game crashes.

This is the second such crash since installing the final patch. Prior to this, I often had the well-documented issue where the game would crash when I attempted to drag a pitcher's name to replace the injured pitcher. Now, I don't even get that far.

In the most recent instance, a pitcher was warming up in the bullpen; on the previous occasion, I don't think there was anyone warming up, so this would not appear to be a factor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hefalumps

I just had the same thing happen to me using the latest Patch 3 (2.0.3.68). Was playing out a game - my pitcher got hurt - and as soon as the PbP was over, game crashed to desktop with the same message. I did not notice if it was the last out of the inning or not. ...

I think it being the last out of the inning is the key factor here. Somehow OOTP isn't processing this part properly.

hefalumps · 12-04-2007, 02:41 PM

Just an update on this - I'm having this happen now on other substitutions as well. For example, I went to go do a double-switch, so I changed the guy I was going to sub out from "2B" to "-" in preparation for moving the pitcher into his spot, and the game crashed right then and there. There wasn't even an injury.

There's definitely something fishy going on, but I've yet to be able to duplicate it. It just seems like sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's really frustrating.

I'll keep posting scenarios as I remember it whenever it happens - maybe we can find a pattern.

hefalumps · 12-19-2007, 02:26 AM

Okay - this keeps happening and I can't find a pattern. Anytime the pitcher gets injured when playing out a game, it always crashes, but I've yet to determine how or when with any kind of consistent pattern. Sometimes I do a double-switch and it happens when I first put the position player in. Other times it doesn't happen until I assign "P" to the new pitcher I'm putting in the injured player's place.

The only thing I've noticed is that the crash almost always happens right after I've assigned a position with the drop-down box. Usually when you do that, you see all the position drop-down boxes kind of flash or flicker, as if it's just processed the change you made and verified all the other positions are OK (i.e. you don't have two players at the same position). That flash or flicker isn't happening when this crash occurs. You set the position, then instead of the flash/flicker you hear your hard drive churn and then eventually the crash message.

Bottom line - this absolutely positively must be found and fixed in the next version. Substitutions in general need to be done a little better (like maybe a "Confirm" button before lineup changes become permanent). Basically, all of my pitchers are invincible since I play out every game, because any time one of them gets injured in-game, it crashes. It gives my team an extremely unrealistic advantage, and frankly, it's really annoying.

Is there anyone else playing in a historical Lahman import league that hasn't experienced this? I'm surprised there isn't more of an outcry about this bug, which means it's either rare or I'm one of the few people playing the game this way (simming historically starting in 1970, following basic MLB rules, playing out all my team's games). I'm playing in 1971 right now so I'll have the DH on my AL team in 1973, so I'm hoping that the bug won't be as prevalent when dragging the sub pitcher to the non-lineup part of the screen. Here's hoping.

hefalumps · 12-21-2007, 11:54 AM

I'm just going to keep bumping this everytime it happens to me because it's so unbelievably frustrating. I actually had it happen last night again when there wasn't even an injury, I was switching in between my substitution screen and my opponent's to see if I should bring in a righty or a lefty, and it crashed. Then again this morning, it crashed with the typical pitcher injury bug (where you try to bring in a new pitcher, change the position to "P", and it freezes and crashes).

Can someone at least tell me that they have an idea what's causing this so it gets fixed in OOTP 9? Part of me just wants to put my league on hold until OOTP 9 comes out so I can stop putting up with this bug.

Has anyone still seen this in OOTP 8? I'm assuming it's probably still there, but I'm just curious. It sounds like people are having a bunch of other problems with OOTP 8, so there's no way I'm going to buy it unless it fixes this issue.

endgame · 12-21-2007, 12:50 PM

Apologies if I'm missing it, heflalumps, but what version are you currently playing? Is it the OOTP8 demo, or is this still a v2007 problem you're experiencing?

hefalumps · 12-22-2007, 12:36 PM

This is the latest patch of OOTP 2007. Am I the only one having this problem? I would think there would be a bigger stink about it if it was more widespread. Obviously some other people did have the problem because they posted before me, but now I seem to be the only one whining about it. :-)

I started a historical Lanham league (no template or quick start) with three levels of minors, starting year 1970. League was started with the same version I'm playing with (latest patch), so it doesn't seem like it could be a legacy bug from a previous version left over in the league file.

Anyway - just hoping that this is a bug reproducible by others so that it can be fixed. You can just change a pitcher's injury rating to most vulnerable and his endurance to almost nil, throw him out there for nine innings until he gets hurt, and see if it happens to you. Thanks!

james17 · 12-22-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hefalumps

Anyway - just hoping that this is a bug reproducible by others so that it can be fixed. You can just change a pitcher's injury rating to most vulnerable and his endurance to almost nil, throw him out there for nine innings until he gets hurt, and see if it happens to you. Thanks!

I had tried this month's ago after one of the patches and didn't have the problem any more.

hefalumps · 12-22-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james17

I had tried this month's ago after one of the patches and didn't have the problem any more.

Well maybe I'm just unlucky then. I did have a few pitchers go down with injuries in 1970 - so there were times I "survived" it without a crash. But so far every pitcher injury in my 1971 season has caused a crash.

And I don't understand why it would be happening to me if it was fixed in the patch. Does anyone on the OOTP tech support side have any idea which patch this was claimed fixed in? I started my universe with the latest patch, so I don't see how the bug couldn't have been present still.

James17, what kind of universe are you running?

jdmill80 · 01-31-2008, 10:51 AM

I have two PC's, OOTP 2007 (whatever latest version) and just now my pitcher was injured in the 4th inning and when I attempted to replace him... CRASH.

This happens ALL THE TMIE! On both computers!

HELP!

james17 · 01-31-2008, 03:19 PM

Sorry for the long wait before responding. I am running a fictional 16 team league with 2 sub-leagues of 2 divisions each. My minors setup is just a vanilla A, AA, and AAA configuration.

Simmo13 · 01-31-2008, 03:44 PM

I'm on V2008 and have had the game crash twice when a pitcher injury has coincided with the end of an inning.

Ktulu · 02-16-2008, 04:10 PM

This is still happening with latest patch of 2007.

Mine occured on the first out of the inning, pitcher injured... game crashes. Didn't even get to the lineup screen.

Extremely frustrating bug...

05-04-2007, 10:46 PM	#6
Big Orange Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 168	Pitcher Injury Crashes This happened to me TWICE in two days when a pitcher was injured and I was managing the team. My question is: does the game ever NOT crash when a pitcher from your own team gets injured???

10-22-2007, 10:22 PM	#8
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,379	I just had the same thing happen to me using the latest Patch 3 (2.0.3.68). Was playing out a game - my pitcher got hurt - and as soon as the PbP was over, game crashed to desktop with the same message. I did not notice if it was the last out of the inning or not. So this is still not fixed - hopefully it can be found and quashed before OOTP 9. I think it being the last out of the inning is the key factor here. Somehow OOTP isn't processing this part properly. I hope this doesn't happen on every pitcher injury, because I like to play out all of my games. If the game crashes every time a pitcher gets hurt, then none of my pitchers are ever going to get hurt, which is extremely unrealistic. If that's the case, this issue really should have been focused on for inclusion in the last patch. If it's only on the final out of the inning, I'll just tell my pitchers to be real careful getting that third out. :: Last edited by hefalumps; 10-22-2007 at 11:40 PM.

12-21-2007, 12:50 PM	#13
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Apologies if I'm missing it, heflalumps, but what version are you currently playing? Is it the OOTP8 demo, or is this still a v2007 problem you're experiencing? __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

01-31-2008, 10:51 AM	#17
jdmill80 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 6	Still crashing... I have two PC's, OOTP 2007 (whatever latest version) and just now my pitcher was injured in the 4th inning and when I attempted to replace him... CRASH. This happens ALL THE TMIE! On both computers! HELP!

02-16-2008, 04:10 PM	#20
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,507	This is still happening with latest patch of 2007. Mine occured on the first out of the inning, pitcher injured... game crashes. Didn't even get to the lineup screen. Extremely frustrating bug... __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

04-13-2007, 07:01 PM	#2
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Thanks for reporting this. It was previously listed as TT 171 and thought to be fixed. It was resubmitted for examination by the coders.

04-16-2007, 06:56 PM	#4
HH20xx convert Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 225	I also had a game crash with a pitcher injury---the crash happened at the conclusion of the play-by-play dialog. The pitcher was injured on the last pitch concluding the half-inning. OOTP version was post-patch.

05-05-2007, 08:53 AM	#7
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	This has been claimed fixed for the beta version of patch 2. Has anyone seen this crash using that version yet?

12-04-2007, 02:41 PM	#10
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,379	Just an update on this - I'm having this happen now on other substitutions as well. For example, I went to go do a double-switch, so I changed the guy I was going to sub out from "2B" to "-" in preparation for moving the pitcher into his spot, and the game crashed right then and there. There wasn't even an injury. There's definitely something fishy going on, but I've yet to be able to duplicate it. It just seems like sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's really frustrating. I'll keep posting scenarios as I remember it whenever it happens - maybe we can find a pattern.

12-19-2007, 02:26 AM	#11
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,379	Okay - this keeps happening and I can't find a pattern. Anytime the pitcher gets injured when playing out a game, it always crashes, but I've yet to determine how or when with any kind of consistent pattern. Sometimes I do a double-switch and it happens when I first put the position player in. Other times it doesn't happen until I assign "P" to the new pitcher I'm putting in the injured player's place. The only thing I've noticed is that the crash almost always happens right after I've assigned a position with the drop-down box. Usually when you do that, you see all the position drop-down boxes kind of flash or flicker, as if it's just processed the change you made and verified all the other positions are OK (i.e. you don't have two players at the same position). That flash or flicker isn't happening when this crash occurs. You set the position, then instead of the flash/flicker you hear your hard drive churn and then eventually the crash message. Bottom line - this absolutely positively must be found and fixed in the next version. Substitutions in general need to be done a little better (like maybe a "Confirm" button before lineup changes become permanent). Basically, all of my pitchers are invincible since I play out every game, because any time one of them gets injured in-game, it crashes. It gives my team an extremely unrealistic advantage, and frankly, it's really annoying. Is there anyone else playing in a historical Lahman import league that hasn't experienced this? I'm surprised there isn't more of an outcry about this bug, which means it's either rare or I'm one of the few people playing the game this way (simming historically starting in 1970, following basic MLB rules, playing out all my team's games). I'm playing in 1971 right now so I'll have the DH on my AL team in 1973, so I'm hoping that the bug won't be as prevalent when dragging the sub pitcher to the non-lineup part of the screen. Here's hoping.

12-21-2007, 11:54 AM	#12
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,379	I'm just going to keep bumping this everytime it happens to me because it's so unbelievably frustrating. I actually had it happen last night again when there wasn't even an injury, I was switching in between my substitution screen and my opponent's to see if I should bring in a righty or a lefty, and it crashed. Then again this morning, it crashed with the typical pitcher injury bug (where you try to bring in a new pitcher, change the position to "P", and it freezes and crashes). Can someone at least tell me that they have an idea what's causing this so it gets fixed in OOTP 9? Part of me just wants to put my league on hold until OOTP 9 comes out so I can stop putting up with this bug. Has anyone still seen this in OOTP 8? I'm assuming it's probably still there, but I'm just curious. It sounds like people are having a bunch of other problems with OOTP 8, so there's no way I'm going to buy it unless it fixes this issue.

12-22-2007, 12:36 PM	#14
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,379	This is the latest patch of OOTP 2007. Am I the only one having this problem? I would think there would be a bigger stink about it if it was more widespread. Obviously some other people did have the problem because they posted before me, but now I seem to be the only one whining about it. :-) I started a historical Lanham league (no template or quick start) with three levels of minors, starting year 1970. League was started with the same version I'm playing with (latest patch), so it doesn't seem like it could be a legacy bug from a previous version left over in the league file. Anyway - just hoping that this is a bug reproducible by others so that it can be fixed. You can just change a pitcher's injury rating to most vulnerable and his endurance to almost nil, throw him out there for nine innings until he gets hurt, and see if it happens to you. Thanks!

01-31-2008, 03:19 PM	#18
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,305	Sorry for the long wait before responding. I am running a fictional 16 team league with 2 sub-leagues of 2 divisions each. My minors setup is just a vanilla A, AA, and AAA configuration.

01-31-2008, 03:44 PM	#19
Simmo13 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: those blue remembered hills Posts: 955	I'm on V2008 and have had the game crash twice when a pitcher injury has coincided with the end of an inning.