Auto-Sim Speed

theta31 · 03-29-2007, 12:49 PM

Ok, I've read posts from some people saying they sim 100 seasons or more overnight. I just tried it last night (32 team majors, default minors, college,
HS, and 4 other feeder leagues). I only got through 16 seasons before I woke up (8 hours).

Other than the obvious size of universe answers, what is the hardware "choke point(s)" for sim speed?

billethius · 03-29-2007, 12:53 PM

How often you're saving the league, how detailed your stats are, if you're keeping logs and box scores, if you're generating an almanac every season....

cbbl · 03-29-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theta31

Ok, I've read posts from some people saying they sim 100 seasons or more overnight. I just tried it last night (32 team majors, default minors, college,
HS, and 4 other feeder leagues). I only got through 16 seasons before I woke up (8 hours).

Other than the obvious size of universe answers, what is the hardware "choke point(s)" for sim speed?

Obvious, I'm sure, but your core processor speed and RAM are two big hardware factors.

cbbl

battists · 03-29-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theta31

Ok, I've read posts from some people saying they sim 100 seasons or more overnight. I just tried it last night (32 team majors, default minors, college,
HS, and 4 other feeder leagues). I only got through 16 seasons before I woke up (8 hours).

Other than the obvious size of universe answers, what is the hardware "choke point(s)" for sim speed?

Beyond some of the things that Billethius mentioned, it's the leagues and RAM.

What do you mean by "default minors"? You mean 5 levels of minors? If so, it sounds like you have 12 full leagues in your game, and that's a decent chunk of players.

I'm fairly certain most of the people who sim 100 years in a night are looking at much smaller setups...just my 3 cents tho'.

Steve

Neags23 · 03-29-2007, 01:08 PM

I wondered about this, too. I have a universe with the basics (ML, AAA, AA, A, S A, R) plus one feeder. Everything is turned off (almanac, logs, box scores), dialog only enabled, no facegen, highly detailed stats only for ML, high for others, except the feeder is lowest stats level... and I got a whopping 24 seasons in 8 hours.

The system is a 3 ghz, 1gb mem, with nothing running in the background. How on earth does anyone get 100 seasons over night? Is this on a supercomputer?

I'll try it on my dual core processor at home tonight and see if there's any difference, but my work computer only chokes out 24 seasons every 8 hours.

billethius · 03-29-2007, 01:39 PM

As mentioend above, I think the people doing 100 seasons in one night are usually doing historical replays. So, for example, when I've done historical replays, I've had no minors and no free agency until 1975. Doing it that way, I can easily get to 1975 within two hours. In 1975 I turn on free agency and usually add at least a single level of minors. Things start to slow down at that point.

theta31 · 03-29-2007, 01:52 PM

Thanks, I will try lowering the stats level for the minors and feeder leagues. My RAM and processor are comparable to others mentioned, so it must be the sheer volume of games and players being simmed. What I am doing is simming so that I have 100 years of history before I take over one of the big league clubs... I guess I'll just grind it out over the next week or so before I take over! Thanks all.

battists · 03-29-2007, 01:53 PM

Yeah, for example, I've done a ton of fictional tests, just while writing the manual. I'll do a 16-team league with no minors, all other settings default (which means no almanac). Of course, I can accomplish a lot more in 8 hours than you did in your league.

There are a lot of variables, but at the end of day, probably the most important variables are on the Database Info page: # of teams, # of players.

jarmenia · 03-29-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

The system is a 3 ghz, 1gb mem, with nothing running in the background. How on earth does anyone get 100 seasons over night? Is this on a supercomputer?

A gig of RAM now days is like having only 512 a few years ago. My two home PCs have 2 and 4 gigs respectivly. Also, the type and speed of your hard drive, along with the interface for them, also has a very large effect on your multi year sim speeds.

Eric · 03-29-2007, 03:48 PM

Also check to see if you have virus scan running. Even though it might only take 5% of the CPU time, that may add up over the course of the night.

Bluenoser · 03-29-2007, 04:10 PM

Go to your OOTP Preferences, 3rd option down.

Set this to "Simple Dialog".

You will see a very noticable difference in sim speed.

Theonlystd · 03-29-2007, 04:23 PM

i've got 50seasons overnight on a fictional league with 36teams and 5 levels of minors..

simple dialog choose no logs,no almanacs, save once a year.. My puter 1gig ram and a 1.8ghz proccesoor

Elendil · 03-29-2007, 04:39 PM

There was another thread about this a couple days ago, and it turned out the guy had antivirus running. I easily get 50+ seasons overnight with the full MLB and minors setup, 1GB RAM 3GHz CPU.

theta31 · 03-29-2007, 05:04 PM

I'm going to have to check my antivirus. I almost always turn it off when running a resource intensive program like this, but sometimes I forget. I will make sure to do that tonight.

Also, I will make sure I have simple dialog. I already only save once per year and no almanacs.

Thanks again for the advice.

03-29-2007, 12:49 PM	#1
theta31 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sacramento Posts: 24	Auto-Sim Speed Ok, I've read posts from some people saying they sim 100 seasons or more overnight. I just tried it last night (32 team majors, default minors, college, HS, and 4 other feeder leagues). I only got through 16 seasons before I woke up (8 hours). Other than the obvious size of universe answers, what is the hardware "choke point(s)" for sim speed?

03-29-2007, 04:39 PM	#13
Elendil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the dynasty forum Posts: 2,318	There was another thread about this a couple days ago, and it turned out the guy had antivirus running. I easily get 50+ seasons overnight with the full MLB and minors setup, 1GB RAM 3GHz CPU. __________________ Heaven is kicking back with a double Talisker and a churchwarden stuffed with latakia.

03-29-2007, 12:53 PM	#2
billethius All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 822	How often you're saving the league, how detailed your stats are, if you're keeping logs and box scores, if you're generating an almanac every season....

03-29-2007, 01:08 PM	#5
Neags23 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,577	I wondered about this, too. I have a universe with the basics (ML, AAA, AA, A, S A, R) plus one feeder. Everything is turned off (almanac, logs, box scores), dialog only enabled, no facegen, highly detailed stats only for ML, high for others, except the feeder is lowest stats level... and I got a whopping 24 seasons in 8 hours. The system is a 3 ghz, 1gb mem, with nothing running in the background. How on earth does anyone get 100 seasons over night? Is this on a supercomputer? I'll try it on my dual core processor at home tonight and see if there's any difference, but my work computer only chokes out 24 seasons every 8 hours.

03-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#6
billethius All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 822	As mentioend above, I think the people doing 100 seasons in one night are usually doing historical replays. So, for example, when I've done historical replays, I've had no minors and no free agency until 1975. Doing it that way, I can easily get to 1975 within two hours. In 1975 I turn on free agency and usually add at least a single level of minors. Things start to slow down at that point.

03-29-2007, 01:52 PM	#7
theta31 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sacramento Posts: 24	Thanks, I will try lowering the stats level for the minors and feeder leagues. My RAM and processor are comparable to others mentioned, so it must be the sheer volume of games and players being simmed. What I am doing is simming so that I have 100 years of history before I take over one of the big league clubs... I guess I'll just grind it out over the next week or so before I take over! Thanks all.

03-29-2007, 01:53 PM	#8
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Yeah, for example, I've done a ton of fictional tests, just while writing the manual. I'll do a 16-team league with no minors, all other settings default (which means no almanac). Of course, I can accomplish a lot more in 8 hours than you did in your league. There are a lot of variables, but at the end of day, probably the most important variables are on the Database Info page: # of teams, # of players.

03-29-2007, 03:48 PM	#10
Eric All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,234	Also check to see if you have virus scan running. Even though it might only take 5% of the CPU time, that may add up over the course of the night.

03-29-2007, 04:10 PM	#11
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,221	Go to your OOTP Preferences, 3rd option down. Set this to "Simple Dialog". You will see a very noticable difference in sim speed.

03-29-2007, 04:23 PM	#12
Theonlystd Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 159	i've got 50seasons overnight on a fictional league with 36teams and 5 levels of minors.. simple dialog choose no logs,no almanacs, save once a year.. My puter 1gig ram and a 1.8ghz proccesoor

03-29-2007, 05:04 PM	#14
theta31 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sacramento Posts: 24	I'm going to have to check my antivirus. I almost always turn it off when running a resource intensive program like this, but sometimes I forget. I will make sure to do that tonight. Also, I will make sure I have simple dialog. I already only save once per year and no almanacs. Thanks again for the advice.