3210 - second crash....

Altus · 03-23-2007, 01:38 AM

I have just had the second crash while trying to do a 1901-2005 sim. I don't know which details to give. I play on Vista Home Premium (32-bit OS) I have a Pentium 4 2.60 GhZ machine with 1.50 giggs of ram I have 90 gig of free hard drive space on the drive OOTP is installed. I let the sim run through the night. By all accounts, it worked fine until 1968. When I went this morning, there was a text box saying "OOTP has stopped working". The only option was to close the programme. I rebooted, restarted the game and the sim, but it crashed again before the end of 1968. Any ideas?

Altus · 03-23-2007, 01:39 AM

Make that three crashes. I definitely can't get past 1968. LOL (Makes me sound like a hippie!)

Marc Duffy · 03-23-2007, 06:29 AM

Can you zip up your league files please and FTP them to us

Altus · 03-23-2007, 06:32 AM

Marc

No problem... Well a few

Can you recommend a good freeware zip utility. I usually unzip, not zip.

And then which file specifically. I presume the game file under save games, but I just want to make sure.

And thirdly, I will only be able to do it after 20:00 GMT tonight, after I get home.

Cheers

Marc Duffy · 03-23-2007, 06:34 AM

The best thing to do is to get your save game to a state where we can crash it immediately upon loading

Zip up the whole dir using 7-zip or freezip and follow the ftp instructions at the top of this forum. Post here when done (with the filename) and we'll grab the file, get it logged and hopefully get it fixed

RBLwebguy · 03-23-2007, 06:40 AM

I had the same issue at one point and it was because I didn't have "hold expansion draft checked when I had the automatically expand league box checked. Try and that and resim, then it should work

bp_ · 03-23-2007, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

I had the same issue at one point and it was because I didn't have "hold expansion draft checked when I had the automatically expand league box checked. Try and that and resim, then it should work

I don't do historicals but wouldn't it make sense for the game to auto-check that other box if you opt to do an expansion draft?

Altus · 03-23-2007, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

I had the same issue at one point and it was because I didn't have "hold expansion draft checked when I had the automatically expand league box checked. Try and that and resim, then it should work

I will try this as soon as I get home. If it still doesn't work, I will follow Marc's plan.

thanks everyone

Altus · 03-23-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp_

I don't do historicals but wouldn't it make sense for the game to auto-check that other box if you opt to do an expansion draft?

OK this din't work and I still crash before the end of 68. I am uploading the file as I type. The file's name is fiction1

PotatoPeeler · 03-24-2007, 02:33 AM

I've run into the exact same problem. I've tried on five seperate occasions to sim from 1901 to 2007. Just after the World Series in 1968 (I believe the date is October 8th, 1968), the SISA Scouting box comes up. It gets to 100% and then crashes. I've tried re-downloading the Lahman database but no joy. I will sim up until the last day of the World Series and then upload the saved game to the server but I'm unsure of the address to upload to. What is it?

At any rate, I'm glad it's not just me. That makes me feel better.

BTW, I'm running on Windows XP Home on a 2.0 Ghz Pentium M with 1 GB of RAM.

Thanks.

Edit: Nevermind the FTP question. I didn't see the sticky. Gonna start uploading soon.

PotatoPeeler · 03-24-2007, 02:35 AM

I see you're from South Africa, Altus. My roommate is from South Africa as well.

PotatoPeeler · 03-24-2007, 02:53 AM

File is uploading now. The name of the file is PotatoPeeler - MLB Replay.zip.

Thanks!

PotatoPeeler · 03-24-2007, 02:56 AM

FYI for the testers, the game actually crashes while trying to sim October 10th, 1968. The saved game that I am uploading is currently on October 8th, 1968.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-27-2007, 01:01 PM

I have downloaded the file, and the league works perfectly here. I am using a standard 5.4 Lahman DB.

PotatoPeeler · 03-27-2007, 08:20 PM

So what do you suggest?

bp_ · 03-27-2007, 08:44 PM

I just simmed through the 1968 season without an issue. Could it be with how you guys set up the league? I used the wizard to create the league and I opted to just use a reserve roster rather than minor leagues.

I noticed 2 teams are added to MLB in 1969. Could that be the issue? http://www.brucem.net/BB_Chrono.htm

Maybe something gets messed up when you add two teams with whatever settings you are using? In my test the game signed coaches and souts on 10/11 and did the expansion draft on 10/13.

PotatoPeeler · 03-27-2007, 08:50 PM

Yeah, my league is set up to run with reserve rosters. I'm set up the league again from scratch and I'm gonna try to sim though again and see what happens. Maybe there was something wrong with the quick start league I was using.

PotatoPeeler · 03-28-2007, 09:39 PM

Okay, I'm still gettting the crash in 1968. Here's the process I go through when I set up the league.

1. Game - Create New Game
2. Create Historical League
3. Select database; Input year (1901); select import complete history
4. Name league; Change team names and cities (no changes)
5. Minor league selection screen (no minor leagues selected; require full minor leagues systems unchecked)
6. Recalculated player ratings (checked); Automatically expand league (checked); Hold expansion draft (unchecked); Enable automatic import of financial settings (checked)
7. FaceGen screen (no fictional pictures for players and coaches)
8. Add manager screen (input my details; start unemployed; play in commissioner mode checked; name league; enter starting year as 1901
9. Game gets created
10. After game is created, I go into Game -> Game Setup
11. Click on the League Setup tab
12. Click on Rules tab
13. Uncheck Amatuer Draft checkbox

After that I start simming and then the game always crashes after the World Series in 1968. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I don't understand why the game would expand the league just fine in 1962 but then crash in 1968. I've tried re-downloading the Lahman DB but that didn't work either. Should I try uninstalling and then reinstalling the game?

Thanks.

bp_ · 03-28-2007, 09:47 PM

Can you try checking this: Hold expansion draft

When I ran my test I had that checked and it worked. I think I had the same settings as you list above for everything else.

PotatoPeeler · 03-28-2007, 11:51 PM

Ahh.. you know what, that's probably it. Since the players only import to their original teams when they make their debut, it doesn't make sense that I should not an have an expansion draft because some of the players chosen won't be with their original teams. I'll betcha that fixes it. Duh. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks!

03-23-2007, 01:38 AM	#1
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	3210 - second crash.... I have just had the second crash while trying to do a 1901-2005 sim. I don't know which details to give. I play on Vista Home Premium (32-bit OS) I have a Pentium 4 2.60 GhZ machine with 1.50 giggs of ram I have 90 gig of free hard drive space on the drive OOTP is installed. I let the sim run through the night. By all accounts, it worked fine until 1968. When I went this morning, there was a text box saying "OOTP has stopped working". The only option was to close the programme. I rebooted, restarted the game and the sim, but it crashed again before the end of 1968. Any ideas?

03-24-2007, 02:33 AM	#10
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	I've run into the exact same problem. I've tried on five seperate occasions to sim from 1901 to 2007. Just after the World Series in 1968 (I believe the date is October 8th, 1968), the SISA Scouting box comes up. It gets to 100% and then crashes. I've tried re-downloading the Lahman database but no joy. I will sim up until the last day of the World Series and then upload the saved game to the server but I'm unsure of the address to upload to. What is it? At any rate, I'm glad it's not just me. That makes me feel better. BTW, I'm running on Windows XP Home on a 2.0 Ghz Pentium M with 1 GB of RAM. Thanks. Edit: Nevermind the FTP question. I didn't see the sticky. Gonna start uploading soon. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel. Last edited by PotatoPeeler; 03-24-2007 at 02:39 AM.

03-24-2007, 02:35 AM	#11
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	I see you're from South Africa, Altus. My roommate is from South Africa as well. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-24-2007, 02:53 AM	#12
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	File is uploading now. The name of the file is PotatoPeeler - MLB Replay.zip. Thanks! __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-24-2007, 02:56 AM	#13
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	FYI for the testers, the game actually crashes while trying to sim October 10th, 1968. The saved game that I am uploading is currently on October 8th, 1968. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-23-2007, 01:39 AM	#2
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	Make that three crashes. I definitely can't get past 1968. LOL (Makes me sound like a hippie!)

03-23-2007, 06:29 AM	#3
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Can you zip up your league files please and FTP them to us

03-23-2007, 06:32 AM	#4
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	Marc No problem... Well a few Can you recommend a good freeware zip utility. I usually unzip, not zip. And then which file specifically. I presume the game file under save games, but I just want to make sure. And thirdly, I will only be able to do it after 20:00 GMT tonight, after I get home. Cheers

03-23-2007, 06:34 AM	#5
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	The best thing to do is to get your save game to a state where we can crash it immediately upon loading Zip up the whole dir using 7-zip or freezip and follow the ftp instructions at the top of this forum. Post here when done (with the filename) and we'll grab the file, get it logged and hopefully get it fixed

03-23-2007, 06:40 AM	#6
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	I had the same issue at one point and it was because I didn't have "hold expansion draft checked when I had the automatically expand league box checked. Try and that and resim, then it should work

03-27-2007, 01:01 PM	#14
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	I have downloaded the file, and the league works perfectly here. I am using a standard 5.4 Lahman DB.

03-27-2007, 08:20 PM	#15
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	So what do you suggest? __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-27-2007, 08:44 PM	#16
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,804	I just simmed through the 1968 season without an issue. Could it be with how you guys set up the league? I used the wizard to create the league and I opted to just use a reserve roster rather than minor leagues. I noticed 2 teams are added to MLB in 1969. Could that be the issue? http://www.brucem.net/BB_Chrono.htm Maybe something gets messed up when you add two teams with whatever settings you are using? In my test the game signed coaches and souts on 10/11 and did the expansion draft on 10/13. __________________ Commish: Over The Mound Last edited by bp_; 03-27-2007 at 08:47 PM.

03-27-2007, 08:50 PM	#17
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Yeah, my league is set up to run with reserve rosters. I'm set up the league again from scratch and I'm gonna try to sim though again and see what happens. Maybe there was something wrong with the quick start league I was using. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-28-2007, 09:39 PM	#18
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Okay, I'm still gettting the crash in 1968. Here's the process I go through when I set up the league. 1. Game - Create New Game 2. Create Historical League 3. Select database; Input year (1901); select import complete history 4. Name league; Change team names and cities (no changes) 5. Minor league selection screen (no minor leagues selected; require full minor leagues systems unchecked) 6. Recalculated player ratings (checked); Automatically expand league (checked); Hold expansion draft (unchecked); Enable automatic import of financial settings (checked) 7. FaceGen screen (no fictional pictures for players and coaches) 8. Add manager screen (input my details; start unemployed; play in commissioner mode checked; name league; enter starting year as 1901 9. Game gets created 10. After game is created, I go into Game -> Game Setup 11. Click on the League Setup tab 12. Click on Rules tab 13. Uncheck Amatuer Draft checkbox After that I start simming and then the game always crashes after the World Series in 1968. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I don't understand why the game would expand the league just fine in 1962 but then crash in 1968. I've tried re-downloading the Lahman DB but that didn't work either. Should I try uninstalling and then reinstalling the game? Thanks. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

03-28-2007, 09:47 PM	#19
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,804	Can you try checking this: Hold expansion draft When I ran my test I had that checked and it worked. I think I had the same settings as you list above for everything else. __________________ Commish: Over The Mound

03-28-2007, 11:51 PM	#20
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Ahh.. you know what, that's probably it. Since the players only import to their original teams when they make their debut, it doesn't make sense that I should not an have an expansion draft because some of the players chosen won't be with their original teams. I'll betcha that fixes it. Duh. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks! __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.