Common Courtesy...A thing of the past?

Ragin Cajun · 08-27-2002, 07:18 PM

I don't know about your league, but my league has been hit recently with league wide spam e-mails from other league commissioners to "join up".

Let me insert something here: I have no problem with my owners being involved with multiple leagues, if it doesn't result in reduced participation in my league. Most of my owners are in multiple leagues.

Now, these e-mails were sent to my owners by spamming my owners page list. The "upstanding" commissioners in question NEVER contacted me to get approval to contact my owners. (It's the fact they spammed the entire league that chaps me. If it was one or two that they knew or had been referred to...that's one thing; hitting EVERYONE is something else. I've busted butt to find my owners...find your own.)

In both cases I replied to the offending sender, expressing my displeasure. Here's a copy of the "reply" the most recent one sent me...

"I dont see what the big problem is. I'm not trying to get them to quit your league, it's totally the opposite. I thought that between comishes we could help each other. But nevermind!"

Now, he never contacted me...I have no idea how spamming and trying to raid my owners "helps" me and no offer of mutual help was ever discussed. Then he gets defensive and immature.

Maybe I'm blowing this way out of proportion....geez even I've e-mailed an entire league before, looking for owners...oh wait... I had the courtesy to contact the commissioner and get his OK before I sent my e-mail. Anyway, I don't see why a little courtesy could not be used by other commissioners...use some common sense guys.

Specs · 08-27-2002, 07:24 PM

he could just e-mail ALL the ootp-leagues server mailing lists.

treedom · 08-27-2002, 08:10 PM

You aren't alone...our league got hit too. Probably the same guy.

I hope next time he'll remember that owners' page that's on every league website is put up there for league communication purposes, not as an invitation for unsolicited e-mail (even if it is OOTP related).

Jestre · 08-27-2002, 08:11 PM

A commish that would send out 'bulk mail' invites isn't the kind of commish that most serious owners would want to be saddled with. I certainly wouldn't be interested in joining a league with that kind of behavior from the commish. If you lose owners to that kind of crap it might be for the best...

MLBC - Browns
BOS - Phillies

halldorr · 08-27-2002, 08:23 PM

I agree with Jestre, when I get those sorts of emails from leagues, I usually just delete them.

rferry · 08-27-2002, 11:23 PM

jblaze?

treedom · 08-28-2002, 08:16 AM

no...wasn't him

CommishJoe · 08-28-2002, 09:34 AM

Common courtesy isn't very common these days *rolleyes*

Old Man · 08-28-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CommishJoe
Common courtesy isn't very common these days *rolleyes*

*rolleyes*

I wonder if this was included because common courtesy may also include coming to a public forum to announce someone else's wrongs. I am not saying spam email is correct thing to do, but coming to this board to put out the dirty laundry is not anymore correct.

Goody · 08-28-2002, 10:55 AM

Old Man, he didn't name any names in the original post so its not really dirty laundry but more of a general complaint to the community.

Old Man · 08-28-2002, 11:25 AM

One man is not the community. Yes no names used. Yes I understand and agree with the issue at hand.
Sorry but it is still sour grapes, and does not belong here.

LedgerSko · 08-28-2002, 01:43 PM

Then what will we have to talk about then. We have the bug reporting forum because that is sour grapes, and alot of people post on the other ootp4 board complaining about the game, and others post about problems they are having. So 60% of the posts are sour grapes.

08-27-2002, 07:18 PM	#1
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	Common Courtesy...A thing of the past? I don't know about your league, but my league has been hit recently with league wide spam e-mails from other league commissioners to "join up". Let me insert something here: I have no problem with my owners being involved with multiple leagues, if it doesn't result in reduced participation in my league. Most of my owners are in multiple leagues. Now, these e-mails were sent to my owners by spamming my owners page list. The "upstanding" commissioners in question NEVER contacted me to get approval to contact my owners. (It's the fact they spammed the entire league that chaps me. If it was one or two that they knew or had been referred to...that's one thing; hitting EVERYONE is something else. I've busted butt to find my owners...find your own.) In both cases I replied to the offending sender, expressing my displeasure. Here's a copy of the "reply" the most recent one sent me... "I dont see what the big problem is. I'm not trying to get them to quit your league, it's totally the opposite. I thought that between comishes we could help each other. But nevermind!" Now, he never contacted me...I have no idea how spamming and trying to raid my owners "helps" me and no offer of mutual help was ever discussed. Then he gets defensive and immature. Maybe I'm blowing this way out of proportion....geez even I've e-mailed an entire league before, looking for owners...oh wait... I had the courtesy to contact the commissioner and get his OK before I sent my e-mail. Anyway, I don't see why a little courtesy could not be used by other commissioners...use some common sense guys. __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

08-27-2002, 08:10 PM	#3
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	You aren't alone...our league got hit too. Probably the same guy. I hope next time he'll remember that owners' page that's on every league website is put up there for league communication purposes, not as an invitation for unsolicited e-mail (even if it is OOTP related). __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

08-27-2002, 08:11 PM	#4
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	A commish that would send out 'bulk mail' invites isn't the kind of commish that most serious owners would want to be saddled with. I certainly wouldn't be interested in joining a league with that kind of behavior from the commish. If you lose owners to that kind of crap it might be for the best... MLBC - Browns BOS - Phillies __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers" Last edited by Jestre; 08-27-2002 at 08:20 PM.

08-27-2002, 11:23 PM	#6
rferry All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: DC Posts: 549	jblaze? __________________ please excuse my grammar, i read baseball weekly in my high school english classes.

08-28-2002, 08:16 AM	#7
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	no...wasn't him __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

08-27-2002, 08:23 PM	#5
halldorr Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 179	I agree with Jestre, when I get those sorts of emails from leagues, I usually just delete them.

08-28-2002, 09:34 AM	#8
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Common courtesy isn't very common these days rolleyes __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

08-28-2002, 10:55 AM	#10
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	Old Man, he didn't name any names in the original post so its not really dirty laundry but more of a general complaint to the community. __________________ In the past: Laseron Baseball Association creator. Present: I am Rezulm on PT and OOTP Discord. Future: I wish it was the past.

08-28-2002, 11:25 AM	#11
Old Man Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 464	One man is not the community. Yes no names used. Yes I understand and agree with the issue at hand. Sorry but it is still sour grapes, and does not belong here.

08-28-2002, 01:43 PM	#12
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	Then what will we have to talk about then. We have the bug reporting forum because that is sour grapes, and alot of people post on the other ootp4 board complaining about the game, and others post about problems they are having. So 60% of the posts are sour grapes.