Let's hear about your planned universes.

jtb · 03-07-2007, 12:06 PM

Let's hear about the Baseball universes you have planned for OOTP2007.

I have never quite been able to do what I really wanted until this new version(Regular MLB Historical with actual expansion, rival leagues come to fruition, Competition for Players for the MLB against rival leagues. I look forward to what the community creates with all the new options.

tommach · 03-07-2007, 12:17 PM

Two Universes:

1. I will start in 1901 and add negro league players as they become available. Probably take control of some second level team like the St. Louis Browns and see if I can turn them around. Take over the A's when the browns move to Baltimore until 1976 when I can take control of the Seattle Mariners and try my luck (Can't be any worse than real life).

In addition, will put in my grandfather, father, uncles, into the game as they come of age, then myself, friends and eventually my children.

2. Start in 2007, expand in 2008 to Boise, Idaho and Honolulu, Hawaii, take control of one of the expansion teams and see how quickly I can build them into a winner.

As a start, will be other universes as my mood changes

jtb · 03-07-2007, 12:24 PM

Expansion is going to add so much.

CBL-Commish · 03-07-2007, 12:30 PM

Continuation of my universe from OOTP2006, part of which has been going on since 1988.

Its current incarnation is:
The real majors
The Continental League, a third major league with 20 teams
Real minor leagues, some players fictional
Three levels of Continental League minors
Five or six real indy leagues, mostly fictional players
The Timberline League (fictional indy league with all teams in high-altitude towns in the Rockies)
Southern Maryland fictional indy league
Far North fictional indy league with teams in northern Canada
Japanese League with real players and one level of minors
Korean League
Australian League
Mexican League with fictional players
Cuban League with fictional players
German, Dutch, Italian leagues with fictional players
Fictional Sao Tome and Principe League
Dominican, Mexican, and Venezeulean Winter Leagues
Fictional Greenland Winter Ice Baseball League

robster1225 · 03-07-2007, 12:45 PM

Start in 1901 with real teams, but fictional players. One caveat is that I will have 3 minor league teams for each team and 2 feeder leagues (haven't figured out names for these, but I plan on using old minor league teams). Then, the Major leagues will follow along MLB's actual expansion, and eventually I'll have my own alternate history of MLB. I plan to possibly add other, foreign leagues to the universe, so players could have an option to jump ship to another league, if they deem necessary.

kagnew35 · 03-07-2007, 12:54 PM

Start in 1901, import historically so that I have all my favorite Red Sox players and with a 100 year game plan make it the RED SOX CENTURY. Babe will NEVER play for the hated Yankees, matter of fact may keep Yankees in Baltimore and there will never be a NYY. If i can find enough players that would like to "own" their historical players to join, will make it an online league. Play a season per month so I have to live another 9 years to complete it. Will be using Arod/Garlon DB that has the Negro League players and gives back lost war years to players who served in the military.

jtb · 03-07-2007, 12:59 PM

CBL Commish,

Are you using a database for the Japanese players?

APujols5 · 03-07-2007, 01:05 PM

4 Possible league Ideas. In the end, I expect I will have all 4 running. Not sure which I will play most though.

1) WWBF, or WorldWide Baseball Federation, it's a 96 team league with 1 minor league and couple feeder leagues. Set across most of the world. Will be completely fictional

2) Real World Current day rosters once they are released.

3) WWBF but with real players instead of Fictional

4) Some crazy combination of Real world and WWBF and a few other Fictional leagues. This one will be huge, like probalby 125+ leagues at least

kagnew35 · 03-07-2007, 01:10 PM

Would like to play in Real World starting in 1940's-1950's with real database of US, Japanese, Cuban, Mexican leagues,\. No idea if anyones actually putting these databases together.

ctorg · 03-07-2007, 01:17 PM

I'm going to take a shot at various kinds of leagues. I want to see what playing a historical league with yearly updates of players is like.

But my baby, which I started planning out in Excel and Access for use with 2006 and am continuing to work on for 2007 is this:

A fictional league starting in 1921 after the collapse of major league baseball coming about from a variety of factors. In the early teens, the sport basically fell apart due to increased competition, corruption, etc. Smaller, regional leagues move in to take the place of the majors.

A new "major" (that is, larger than regional) league starts in 1921. It is major in name only, really, as its participating cities are all in the northeast. In time, however, through expansion and team movement, it spreads out and truly does become a major league.

But it has competition from an independent league. While not nearly as well financed, the indy league refuses to play by the major league's rules and puts teams in the same cities or areas, generally making things difficult. At first, the indy league and the major league are nearly on par as far as finances and ability, but over time, the major league becomes much more powerful and better organized, bringing in a full minor league system and feeder leagues. The indy league sticks around, but it becomes a place for guys who aren't making it to the majors or whose major league careers are over.

Eventually, another indy league, catering specifically to older (35+) players who aren't major league quality anymore, crops up as well.

I haven't planned out the exact movement or finances or cities yet, but I did run a few tests in 2006 to see how various things worked and it should work well, I think.

endgame · 03-07-2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctorg

The indy league sticks around, but it becomes a place for guys who aren't making it to the majors or whose major league careers are over.

Eventually, another indy league, catering specifically to older (35+) players who aren't major league quality anymore, crops up as well.

Great ideas. I'm not sure how the logistics would work, but it'd be interesting to see the last indy league you mentioned actually replace the original while the original is absorbed by the major league as a part of its expansion, akin to the swallowing of smaller competition by larger corporate domains.

ukhotstove · 03-07-2007, 01:33 PM

I was going to start it with 06 but with no expansion it wouldn't have given me what I wanted but 07 will.

The league will start of with two leagues of 6 teams and be based around the first Transcontinental Railroad in the US, one league will be ran by the Central Pacific and the other by the Union Pacific.

After a year or two a league owned by the steel mills will form and be a rival league to the railroad leagues and will be joined at some time by the cotton mills, there will be a negro league within the set up but it will start of as just single teams touring across the country before they set up an organised league.

ctorg · 03-07-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endgame

Great ideas. I'm not sure how the logistics would work, but it'd be interesting to see the last indy league you mentioned actually replace the original while the original is absorbed by the major league as a part of its expansion, akin to the swallowing of smaller competition by larger corporate domains.

One thing that I neglected to mention in my plan is that major league teams would basically be stolen from the indy league as expansion teams. In other words, if an indy league team is particularly successful and in a big market with no major league presence, it might change sides and become a major league team, bringing all its players with it. The indy league would then have to replace the departing team with an "expansion" team. In this way, the major leagues wouldn't really have to expand through traditional methods. I haven't figured out the exact mechanics of it all yet, but I'm convinced that it's a good idea.

CBL-Commish · 03-07-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtb

CBL Commish,

Are you using a database for the Japanese players?

Yea, somebody had a roster set out last year and I went through a convoluted process to import it into my universe.

darkenigma510 · 03-07-2007, 02:12 PM

Going to realize my dream of creating a Canadian Baseball Association with four separate leagues operating under its unbrella:

A Western canadian league

Ontario League

Quebec League

Maritimes League

Maybe somehow arrange for a super tournament either in exhibitions or import them to a separate file.

marc · 03-07-2007, 02:13 PM

This: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=140779

Will be taking up most of my time.

Kemp · 03-07-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctorg

One thing that I neglected to mention in my plan is that major league teams would basically be stolen from the indy league as expansion teams. In other words, if an indy league team is particularly successful and in a big market with no major league presence, it might change sides and become a major league team, bringing all its players with it. The indy league would then have to replace the departing team with an "expansion" team. In this way, the major leagues wouldn't really have to expand through traditional methods. I haven't figured out the exact mechanics of it all yet, but I'm convinced that it's a good idea.

I was actually thinking of doing something very similar. And like you, I haven't exactly figured out the mechanics but I was just playing around with the idea during lunch today.

The stumbling block for me is - how do I want to populate the "new" team that will fill the void created in the independent league? The simplest way would be to fill with fictional players but I'm not sure how much I like that idea.

ukhotstove · 03-07-2007, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkenigma510

Going to realize my dream of creating a Canadian Baseball Association with four separate leagues operating under its unbrella:

A Western canadian league

Ontario League

Quebec League

Maritimes League

Maybe somehow arrange for a super tournament either in exhibitions or import them to a separate file.

You may have seen this site but thought it may interest you if you hadn't.

http://attheplate.com/wcbl/index.html

ctorg · 03-07-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemp

I was actually thinking of doing something very similar. And like you, I haven't exactly figured out the mechanics but I was just playing around with the idea during lunch today.

The stumbling block for me is - how do I want to populate the "new" team that will fill the void created in the independent league? The simplest way would be to fill with fictional players but I'm not sure how much I like that idea.

I think I'm just going to create the team, leave it empty, and let them sign free agents to fill up. I'm sure they'd be pretty bad at first, but things would normalize.

PadresFan · 03-07-2007, 02:31 PM

My universe is going to be relatively simple. 24 team association with a Metropolitan League (bigger cities) and a Great American League (smaller cities). What makes it fun for me is that all of these locations are are either places I've lived (5), or places I've visited on business travel or vacation (19). Going to have custom logos for each team (already up on my website) as well. Also, no minor leagues to keep it simple. It's going to be called the Millenium Baseball Association, and I will sim from 2000 through 2006, and then manage the San Diego team starting in 2007.

03-07-2007, 12:06 PM	#1
jtb All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 595	Let's hear about your planned universes. Let's hear about the Baseball universes you have planned for OOTP2007. I have never quite been able to do what I really wanted until this new version(Regular MLB Historical with actual expansion, rival leagues come to fruition, Competition for Players for the MLB against rival leagues. I look forward to what the community creates with all the new options.

03-07-2007, 12:17 PM	#2
tommach Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 140	Two Universes: 1. I will start in 1901 and add negro league players as they become available. Probably take control of some second level team like the St. Louis Browns and see if I can turn them around. Take over the A's when the browns move to Baltimore until 1976 when I can take control of the Seattle Mariners and try my luck (Can't be any worse than real life). In addition, will put in my grandfather, father, uncles, into the game as they come of age, then myself, friends and eventually my children. 2. Start in 2007, expand in 2008 to Boise, Idaho and Honolulu, Hawaii, take control of one of the expansion teams and see how quickly I can build them into a winner. As a start, will be other universes as my mood changes __________________ www.atbat.net commish/Phil A's wwbl houston astros nsbl colorado rockies babl NY Giants

03-07-2007, 12:30 PM	#4
CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,999	Continuation of my universe from OOTP2006, part of which has been going on since 1988. Its current incarnation is: The real majors The Continental League, a third major league with 20 teams Real minor leagues, some players fictional Three levels of Continental League minors Five or six real indy leagues, mostly fictional players The Timberline League (fictional indy league with all teams in high-altitude towns in the Rockies) Southern Maryland fictional indy league Far North fictional indy league with teams in northern Canada Japanese League with real players and one level of minors Korean League Australian League Mexican League with fictional players Cuban League with fictional players German, Dutch, Italian leagues with fictional players Fictional Sao Tome and Principe League Dominican, Mexican, and Venezeulean Winter Leagues Fictional Greenland Winter Ice Baseball League __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com

03-07-2007, 12:54 PM	#6
kagnew35 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nev Posts: 1,965	Start in 1901, import historically so that I have all my favorite Red Sox players and with a 100 year game plan make it the RED SOX CENTURY. Babe will NEVER play for the hated Yankees, matter of fact may keep Yankees in Baltimore and there will never be a NYY. If i can find enough players that would like to "own" their historical players to join, will make it an online league. Play a season per month so I have to live another 9 years to complete it. Will be using Arod/Garlon DB that has the Negro League players and gives back lost war years to players who served in the military. __________________ Elder Statesman of the Board http://www.soxxcountry.com/ site with FaceGen Central and Duffys Tavern Live OOTP Chat Room

03-07-2007, 01:10 PM	#9
kagnew35 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nev Posts: 1,965	Would like to play in Real World starting in 1940's-1950's with real database of US, Japanese, Cuban, Mexican leagues,\. No idea if anyones actually putting these databases together. __________________ Elder Statesman of the Board http://www.soxxcountry.com/ site with FaceGen Central and Duffys Tavern Live OOTP Chat Room

03-07-2007, 12:24 PM	#3
jtb All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 595	Expansion is going to add so much.

03-07-2007, 12:45 PM	#5
robster1225 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,617	Start in 1901 with real teams, but fictional players. One caveat is that I will have 3 minor league teams for each team and 2 feeder leagues (haven't figured out names for these, but I plan on using old minor league teams). Then, the Major leagues will follow along MLB's actual expansion, and eventually I'll have my own alternate history of MLB. I plan to possibly add other, foreign leagues to the universe, so players could have an option to jump ship to another league, if they deem necessary.

03-07-2007, 12:59 PM	#7
jtb All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 595	CBL Commish, Are you using a database for the Japanese players?

03-07-2007, 01:05 PM	#8
APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	4 Possible league Ideas. In the end, I expect I will have all 4 running. Not sure which I will play most though. 1) WWBF, or WorldWide Baseball Federation, it's a 96 team league with 1 minor league and couple feeder leagues. Set across most of the world. Will be completely fictional 2) Real World Current day rosters once they are released. 3) WWBF but with real players instead of Fictional 4) Some crazy combination of Real world and WWBF and a few other Fictional leagues. This one will be huge, like probalby 125+ leagues at least

03-07-2007, 01:17 PM	#10
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I'm going to take a shot at various kinds of leagues. I want to see what playing a historical league with yearly updates of players is like. But my baby, which I started planning out in Excel and Access for use with 2006 and am continuing to work on for 2007 is this: A fictional league starting in 1921 after the collapse of major league baseball coming about from a variety of factors. In the early teens, the sport basically fell apart due to increased competition, corruption, etc. Smaller, regional leagues move in to take the place of the majors. A new "major" (that is, larger than regional) league starts in 1921. It is major in name only, really, as its participating cities are all in the northeast. In time, however, through expansion and team movement, it spreads out and truly does become a major league. But it has competition from an independent league. While not nearly as well financed, the indy league refuses to play by the major league's rules and puts teams in the same cities or areas, generally making things difficult. At first, the indy league and the major league are nearly on par as far as finances and ability, but over time, the major league becomes much more powerful and better organized, bringing in a full minor league system and feeder leagues. The indy league sticks around, but it becomes a place for guys who aren't making it to the majors or whose major league careers are over. Eventually, another indy league, catering specifically to older (35+) players who aren't major league quality anymore, crops up as well. I haven't planned out the exact movement or finances or cities yet, but I did run a few tests in 2006 to see how various things worked and it should work well, I think. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

03-07-2007, 01:33 PM	#12
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	I was going to start it with 06 but with no expansion it wouldn't have given me what I wanted but 07 will. The league will start of with two leagues of 6 teams and be based around the first Transcontinental Railroad in the US, one league will be ran by the Central Pacific and the other by the Union Pacific. After a year or two a league owned by the steel mills will form and be a rival league to the railroad leagues and will be joined at some time by the cotton mills, there will be a negro league within the set up but it will start of as just single teams touring across the country before they set up an organised league. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

03-07-2007, 02:12 PM	#15
darkenigma510 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Wild West Posts: 1,353	Going to realize my dream of creating a Canadian Baseball Association with four separate leagues operating under its unbrella: A Western canadian league Ontario League Quebec League Maritimes League Maybe somehow arrange for a super tournament either in exhibitions or import them to a separate file.

03-07-2007, 02:13 PM	#16
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	This: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=140779 Will be taking up most of my time. __________________

03-07-2007, 02:31 PM	#20
PadresFan All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 1,151	My universe is going to be relatively simple. 24 team association with a Metropolitan League (bigger cities) and a Great American League (smaller cities). What makes it fun for me is that all of these locations are are either places I've lived (5), or places I've visited on business travel or vacation (19). Going to have custom logos for each team (already up on my website) as well. Also, no minor leagues to keep it simple. It's going to be called the Millenium Baseball Association, and I will sim from 2000 through 2006, and then manage the San Diego team starting in 2007.