Check out the USBL

LedgerSko · 08-19-2002, 02:30 PM

http://usblootp.web1000.com/

Bluenoser · 08-19-2002, 05:41 PM

Does the USBL bear a striking resemblence to iMLB, or is it just me?

http://www.imlbcentral.com/imlbhome3.htm

Irrelevant Dude · 08-19-2002, 06:09 PM

Speaking of the iMLB, the website is fairly outdated... did the league ever begin play?

Bluenoser · 08-19-2002, 06:25 PM

Was talking to Ken about a month ago. He got delayed with personal problems but says the league will get off the ground this fall at the latest.

azkyote84 · 08-19-2002, 06:29 PM

Um yeah...they look a bit similiar don't they...down to the articles even, ouch!!

lukster · 08-19-2002, 06:44 PM

dang they do look alike!!! where is that "you stole my website" thread when you need it!!!!

lukster

dappawit · 08-19-2002, 08:49 PM

I agree, they look way too similar. The same format and placement of everything--the text below the "Sim Schedule" chart uses the same wording, and the menus are in the same order. Hopefully, there may be an explanation, like one gave permission to the other to use a similar site, or something like that.

Rush22 · 08-19-2002, 10:02 PM

I also agree. THIEF!

moMan

Rush22 · 08-19-2002, 10:04 PM

I also think it's odd how the menu title says IMLB Links

dappawit · 08-20-2002, 01:02 AM

All right, judging from Rush22's smilies/sarcasm, I'm missing something

what's going on?

Batter UP · 08-20-2002, 01:21 AM

Yea, it's pretty obvious it is the exact same web site design. It's like a situation that happened a couple months ago where a guy took Cooley's web pages from HBL and directly copied them as his own without any permission or acknowledgement. Perhaps the guys that run these leagues are partners or something; I don't know either one of them.

Total Nirvana · 08-20-2002, 01:26 AM

Anyways... i'm the owner of the USBL...

I dunno if you have looked around, but about 10 other leagues has used the same site setup. The site was linked to me by a friend, and to prevent much time editing the setup, i made some alterations, and created my own league. People leave things on many things, and on the site, I left off many things. It's not like i'm tring to hid the league from others, but I'm tring to make the league unlike others. Please remember that this is only my 2nd OOTP4 league, and I'm tring to make this better then the XBL. (Still dunno why Steve still havent changed my s/n, after i asked to get it changed about 3 days ago) I don't mean to steal anything. BTW, due to server problems, that site will be shut down, and i'm tring to find a good web server to fit my needs. So... to the iMLB commish (wherever he may be)...i'm sorry.

Specs · 08-20-2002, 01:30 AM

image!

Total Nirvana · 08-20-2002, 01:42 AM

Some examples
http://balltwo.netfirms.com/
http://www.bbl.ootp-leagues.com/
http://bbdl.ootp-leagues.com/bbdl/bbdl.htm
http://www.tqbl.ootp-leagues.com/

My conclusion is...
do NOT critizise me for something that other commissioners does, without yelling at them. I end it there

fanzerpaust · 08-20-2002, 02:11 AM

Alright, everyone needs to give the guy a break. The league he has created is an awesome one, and it shouldn't matter about the website. I'm not sure everyone knows how hard and time consuming it can be to create a league. It takes time and effort. So i think we should be a little more understanding with the fact that he was just trying to save time, so he could devote more of his time to the league (which is going to be awesome, by the way).
Please calm down about this and try to be nicer in the future, as we are all playing for the same purpose: to have fun!

Fanzerpaust

biggestkj · 08-20-2002, 02:27 AM

First of all, I must agree with my man fanzer. I mean we all are to have fun, am I right. You can go ahead and criticize all you want. But what good does it do for you?!? What do you get out of it by criticizing? I'm not trying to make all of you enemies or anything, but trying to make you get a different look at things. I've been in many leagues here and I've seen many leagues who have the same set-up as well.

As far as this one goes, yes it does copy the iMLB setup. But I know the commish, and he didn't intend to compete with the iMLB (which we both know is gonna be a great league). Is he a thief? I think not. Thiefs steal and intend it to be secret. If he is a thief, as u say he is, why would he post his website?

No, you people probably don't understand. Or maybe u should look at it a different perspective. If someone were to borrow my design, I wouldn't be sour about it. I mean, if someone uses my setup, then I'd take that as a compliment to how I can setup a site. He WILL...and I stress WILL give credit to iMLB site saying he did use the setup.

Have a heart. Give him some slack. Baseball is meant to be fun. Not to be a political discussion. The site will change time to time. It won't still have the iMLB stuff on it for long. The iMLB is gonna be a great league. The USBL is gonna be one as well.

If anything...the iMLB commishes or owners should be the one complaining. But so far I haven't noticed that.

AIM: BigThreeSeven

Treches · 08-20-2002, 02:38 AM

The iMLB commish should not be complaining. He took our html code and changed the images and colors. All without asking for it like a few other. Too bad because we let everyone who ask to use it.

dappawit · 08-20-2002, 03:48 AM

I have also seen several leagues with similar web sites. And I have also seen several leagues with original sites.

I think the issue here, and with all situations like this, is was permission to use the site asked for and granted. If not, its an issue for the site owners to resolve.

If you asked for permission and it was granted, no problem. A small note somewhere on the site may help avoid uproars like this.

If you didn't ask for permission, or permission was not granted, just create your own original site and don't copy others. I think its as simple as that.

Dave

LedgerSko · 08-20-2002, 10:00 AM

Can someone e-mail Ken and tell him I want the White Sox? Bruce hopefully you can do this. You are in the NBSL with me.

Name - Scott Anderson
Age - 21
Yes I own OOTP4
I am in the NBSL and thats it
AIM - LedgerSko
E-mail sko_dog@hotmail.com

Thanks

I am sorry for bringin this site up and causing controversy. I just saw the league and thought it looked cool and wanted to give it some publicity. I wouldnt mind being in both leagues though.

LedgerSko · 08-20-2002, 11:20 AM

The reason I want someone to e-mail Ken or at least relay my message to him is that I cant get to my e-mail right now at work and since the league is getting publicized now I want to get a team before it is too late !!

Thanks
Scott

08-19-2002, 02:30 PM	#1
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	Check out the USBL http://usblootp.web1000.com/

08-19-2002, 06:29 PM	#5
azkyote84 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fosston, MN Posts: 328	Um yeah...they look a bit similiar don't they...down to the articles even, ouch!! __________________ Andy - Future Author of: "Kyote Capenomics and You" Baseball Union Boston Resolute - 1907, 1908, 1909 Union Champions! Looking for 4! ABL Old - School 1999 NL Expansion Franchise

08-19-2002, 08:49 PM	#7
dappawit Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 34	I agree, they look way too similar. The same format and placement of everything--the text below the "Sim Schedule" chart uses the same wording, and the menus are in the same order. Hopefully, there may be an explanation, like one gave permission to the other to use a similar site, or something like that. __________________ "The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But Blue squezzed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby." - Ed Lynch

08-19-2002, 10:02 PM	#8
Rush22 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 234	I also agree. THIEF! moMan __________________ ESPN Asks President Bush what he would do if baseball goes on strike. President Bush thinks long and hard and here was his answer, "I'd be really mad." Dallas, GMC, 90-72 Boston (NL), ABL, 38-24 New York (NL), WSBL , 0-0 Minnesota, iMLB , 0-0 Stay Tuned...

08-19-2002, 10:04 PM	#9
Rush22 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 234	I also think it's odd how the menu title says IMLB Links __________________ ESPN Asks President Bush what he would do if baseball goes on strike. President Bush thinks long and hard and here was his answer, "I'd be really mad." Dallas, GMC, 90-72 Boston (NL), ABL, 38-24 New York (NL), WSBL , 0-0 Minnesota, iMLB , 0-0 Stay Tuned...

08-19-2002, 05:41 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,177	Does the USBL bear a striking resemblence to iMLB, or is it just me? http://www.imlbcentral.com/imlbhome3.htm

08-19-2002, 06:09 PM	#3
Irrelevant Dude Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bourbonnais, IL Posts: 274	Speaking of the iMLB, the website is fairly outdated... did the league ever begin play?

08-19-2002, 06:25 PM	#4
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,177	Was talking to Ken about a month ago. He got delayed with personal problems but says the league will get off the ground this fall at the latest.

08-19-2002, 06:44 PM	#6
lukster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: living large in the OC Posts: 284	dang they do look alike!!! where is that "you stole my website" thread when you need it!!!! lukster

08-20-2002, 01:02 AM	#10
dappawit Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 34	All right, judging from Rush22's smilies/sarcasm, I'm missing something what's going on? __________________ "The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But Blue squezzed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby." - Ed Lynch

08-20-2002, 01:21 AM	#11
Batter UP Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 102	Yea, it's pretty obvious it is the exact same web site design. It's like a situation that happened a couple months ago where a guy took Cooley's web pages from HBL and directly copied them as his own without any permission or acknowledgement. Perhaps the guys that run these leagues are partners or something; I don't know either one of them.

08-20-2002, 01:26 AM	#12
Total Nirvana All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 750	Anyways... i'm the owner of the USBL... I dunno if you have looked around, but about 10 other leagues has used the same site setup. The site was linked to me by a friend, and to prevent much time editing the setup, i made some alterations, and created my own league. People leave things on many things, and on the site, I left off many things. It's not like i'm tring to hid the league from others, but I'm tring to make the league unlike others. Please remember that this is only my 2nd OOTP4 league, and I'm tring to make this better then the XBL. (Still dunno why Steve still havent changed my s/n, after i asked to get it changed about 3 days ago) I don't mean to steal anything. BTW, due to server problems, that site will be shut down, and i'm tring to find a good web server to fit my needs. So... to the iMLB commish (wherever he may be)...i'm sorry. __________________ Total Hockey Commissioner Your Off-Topic Nightmare. Free Agent OT Player - Plays 1B/3B/OF, hits for power on all fields, great fielder, can hit .330 a season! Last edited by Total Nirvana; 08-20-2002 at 02:22 AM.

08-20-2002, 01:42 AM	#14
Total Nirvana All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 750	Some examples http://balltwo.netfirms.com/ http://www.bbl.ootp-leagues.com/ http://bbdl.ootp-leagues.com/bbdl/bbdl.htm http://www.tqbl.ootp-leagues.com/ My conclusion is... do NOT critizise me for something that other commissioners does, without yelling at them. I end it there __________________ Total Hockey Commissioner Your Off-Topic Nightmare. Free Agent OT Player - Plays 1B/3B/OF, hits for power on all fields, great fielder, can hit .330 a season!

08-20-2002, 02:11 AM	#15
fanzerpaust Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 33	Alright, everyone needs to give the guy a break. The league he has created is an awesome one, and it shouldn't matter about the website. I'm not sure everyone knows how hard and time consuming it can be to create a league. It takes time and effort. So i think we should be a little more understanding with the fact that he was just trying to save time, so he could devote more of his time to the league (which is going to be awesome, by the way). Please calm down about this and try to be nicer in the future, as we are all playing for the same purpose: to have fun! Fanzerpaust

08-20-2002, 02:27 AM	#16
biggestkj Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 18	Who gives a damn First of all, I must agree with my man fanzer. I mean we all are to have fun, am I right. You can go ahead and criticize all you want. But what good does it do for you?!? What do you get out of it by criticizing? I'm not trying to make all of you enemies or anything, but trying to make you get a different look at things. I've been in many leagues here and I've seen many leagues who have the same set-up as well. As far as this one goes, yes it does copy the iMLB setup. But I know the commish, and he didn't intend to compete with the iMLB (which we both know is gonna be a great league). Is he a thief? I think not. Thiefs steal and intend it to be secret. If he is a thief, as u say he is, why would he post his website? No, you people probably don't understand. Or maybe u should look at it a different perspective. If someone were to borrow my design, I wouldn't be sour about it. I mean, if someone uses my setup, then I'd take that as a compliment to how I can setup a site. He WILL...and I stress WILL give credit to iMLB site saying he did use the setup. Have a heart. Give him some slack. Baseball is meant to be fun. Not to be a political discussion. The site will change time to time. It won't still have the iMLB stuff on it for long. The iMLB is gonna be a great league. The USBL is gonna be one as well. If anything...the iMLB commishes or owners should be the one complaining. But so far I haven't noticed that. AIM: BigThreeSeven

08-20-2002, 02:38 AM	#17
Treches Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Damned Hell Posts: 2,150	The iMLB commish should not be complaining. He took our html code and changed the images and colors. All without asking for it like a few other. Too bad because we let everyone who ask to use it. __________________ The Computer Baseball League

08-20-2002, 03:48 AM	#18
dappawit Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 34	I have also seen several leagues with similar web sites. And I have also seen several leagues with original sites. I think the issue here, and with all situations like this, is was permission to use the site asked for and granted. If not, its an issue for the site owners to resolve. If you asked for permission and it was granted, no problem. A small note somewhere on the site may help avoid uproars like this. If you didn't ask for permission, or permission was not granted, just create your own original site and don't copy others. I think its as simple as that. Dave __________________ "The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But Blue squezzed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby." - Ed Lynch

08-20-2002, 10:00 AM	#19
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	Can someone e-mail Ken and tell him I want the White Sox? Bruce hopefully you can do this. You are in the NBSL with me. Name - Scott Anderson Age - 21 Yes I own OOTP4 I am in the NBSL and thats it AIM - LedgerSko E-mail sko_dog@hotmail.com Thanks I am sorry for bringin this site up and causing controversy. I just saw the league and thought it looked cool and wanted to give it some publicity. I wouldnt mind being in both leagues though. Last edited by LedgerSko; 08-20-2002 at 10:02 AM.

08-20-2002, 11:20 AM	#20
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	The reason I want someone to e-mail Ken or at least relay my message to him is that I cant get to my e-mail right now at work and since the league is getting publicized now I want to get a team before it is too late !! Thanks Scott