Strange Contract Extensions

Nutlaw · 10-02-2006, 08:42 PM

I just traded for a stud CF and noticed that the computer AI had previously signed him to a three year contract extension with the salaries:

1st Season: $2,675,153
2nd Season: $9,820,000
3rd Season: $350,000

That's a really silly contract. If I tried to sign one of my players to a contract like that, the owner would not approve it, nor approve anything a quarter as bad. If the game recognizes it as a bad contract in one instance (when I am trying to make an offer), it should recognize it in another (when the AI tries to make an offer).

Nutlaw · 10-02-2006, 08:47 PM

Of note, I am using the latest version (1.03).

If it helps, the player had four years of major league service, and thus two more arbitration years ahead of him. His existing one-year contract is for $2,675,153. I am using default financials.

scefalu · 10-03-2006, 11:32 AM

You know, I have tried to offer more reasonable contracts and I have gotten the message that the contract needed the money to be spread more evenly throughout the years. I find this odd, also.

jaxmagicman · 10-04-2006, 12:34 PM

You guys may just have different type of owners. IMO this feature is working the way it should.

Nutlaw · 10-04-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

You guys may just have different type of owners. IMO this feature is working the way it should.

I was not aware that there were different owner personality types. There certainly aren't any descriptions for them, like there are for general managers, coaches, and the like.

Regardless, I've played five or six games and have never been able to structure wildly unbalanced contracts, or even moderately unbalanced ones. You really think that a contract like that was intended? One where a player earns nearly ten million dollars one year and the league minimum the next?

Goodsox · 10-22-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

I was not aware that there were different owner personality types. There certainly aren't any descriptions for them, like there are for general managers, coaches, and the like.

Regardless, I've played five or six games and have never been able to structure wildly unbalanced contracts, or even moderately unbalanced ones. You really think that a contract like that was intended? One where a player earns nearly ten million dollars one year and the league minimum the next?

Nutlaw,

I apologize that it has taken a while for you to get a response. I have not seen a contract extension that was this unbalanced before. Was this in a roster set or a game created league? Also, do you still have the file that contains this extension. Please let me know. Thanks.

Nutlaw · 10-23-2006, 11:03 AM

This was a game created fictional league. I do, in fact, still have the file.

Should I send it someplace? If so, exactly which files would you need?

Goodsox · 10-23-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

This was a game created fictional league. I do, in fact, still have the file.

Should I send it someplace? If so, exactly which files would you need?

Yes, please follow the directions here to upload the file http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...06#post1875606.

I will just need the following files:

coaches.dat
human_managers.dat
injuries.dat
messages.dat
names.dat
offers.dat
options.dat
parks.dat
players.dat
scouting.dat
teams.dat
trades.dat
world.dat

molarmite · 10-23-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

You guys may just have different type of owners. IMO this feature is working the way it should.

I don't think owner personalities has anything to do with this. No matter what, it always says you can't have an imbalance like this not matter what type of owner you have. It's written in the game like that. My guess is that there was a problem with the universe creation. How many seasons are you into your career?

Goodsox · 10-23-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodsox

Yes, please follow the directions here to upload the file http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...06#post1875606.

I will just need the following files:

coaches.dat
human_managers.dat
injuries.dat
messages.dat
names.dat
offers.dat
options.dat
parks.dat
players.dat
scouting.dat
teams.dat
trades.dat
world.dat

Please also send the news directory so I will have access to the html files and player history. Thanks.

Nutlaw · 10-23-2006, 07:52 PM

This occurred during the first season of play. The player in question is CF Douglas Thomas, on the Norwich Terror. I've got all of the files zipped up, but ftp://217.158.3.6/ doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone else access it?

Goodsox · 10-23-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

This occurred during the first season of play. The player in question is CF Douglas Thomas, on the Norwich Terror. I've got all of the files zipped up, but ftp://217.158.3.6/ doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone else access it?

I just tried the ftp link and it works for me

Nutlaw · 10-23-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodsox

I just tried the ftp link and it works for me

Well, that's annoying. Still won't work for me using IE. I'm not having any problem with any other ftp sites. I'll see if I can get the file to someone else who can access it.

Nutlaw · 10-23-2006, 09:41 PM

Okay. Filezilla did the trick. It's up there as Nutlaw.zip.

Goodsox · 10-24-2006, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Okay. Filezilla did the trick. It's up there as Nutlaw.zip.

Nutlaw,

What is the name of the player with the goofy contract extension? Thanks.

Goodsox · 10-24-2006, 10:28 AM

Nevermind, I got it.

Nutlaw · 10-24-2006, 11:54 AM

Any ideas of what could have happened there? I don't see anything else out of place.

Goodsox · 10-24-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Any ideas of what could have happened there? I don't see anything else out of place.

I don't either

It is truly strange that the game seemed to have screwed up the value of the extension. I am going to log this as a bug and keep the league file for Markus to take a look at. For your own purposes, you can wait until the next year in your league when the new contract takes effect. Then you can turn on Commish mode and evenly distribute the contract amounts if you would like. I will post back here with a Test Track Number for your reference.

Goodsox · 10-24-2006, 12:38 PM

TT # 82 - I'm moving this to logged issues and will keep you informed of any progress.

10-02-2006, 08:42 PM	#1
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Strange Contract Extensions I just traded for a stud CF and noticed that the computer AI had previously signed him to a three year contract extension with the salaries: 1st Season: $2,675,153 2nd Season: $9,820,000 3rd Season: $350,000 That's a really silly contract. If I tried to sign one of my players to a contract like that, the owner would not approve it, nor approve anything a quarter as bad. If the game recognizes it as a bad contract in one instance (when I am trying to make an offer), it should recognize it in another (when the AI tries to make an offer).

10-03-2006, 11:32 AM	#3
scefalu Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 355	You know, I have tried to offer more reasonable contracts and I have gotten the message that the contract needed the money to be spread more evenly throughout the years. I find this odd, also. __________________ Shawn

10-04-2006, 12:34 PM	#4
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	You guys may just have different type of owners. IMO this feature is working the way it should. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-24-2006, 10:28 AM	#16
Goodsox Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,866	Nevermind, I got it. __________________ GoodSox Go White Sox!

10-24-2006, 12:38 PM	#19
Goodsox Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,866	TT # 82 - I'm moving this to logged issues and will keep you informed of any progress. __________________ GoodSox Go White Sox!

10-02-2006, 08:47 PM	#2
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Of note, I am using the latest version (1.03). If it helps, the player had four years of major league service, and thus two more arbitration years ahead of him. His existing one-year contract is for $2,675,153. I am using default financials.

10-23-2006, 11:03 AM	#7
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	This was a game created fictional league. I do, in fact, still have the file. Should I send it someplace? If so, exactly which files would you need?

10-23-2006, 07:52 PM	#11
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	This occurred during the first season of play. The player in question is CF Douglas Thomas, on the Norwich Terror. I've got all of the files zipped up, but ftp://217.158.3.6/ doesn't seem to be working. Can anyone else access it?

10-23-2006, 09:41 PM	#14
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Okay. Filezilla did the trick. It's up there as Nutlaw.zip.

10-24-2006, 11:54 AM	#17
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Any ideas of what could have happened there? I don't see anything else out of place.