Kearns, Lopez traded to Nats

SJPhilsFan · 07-13-2006, 05:09 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314

Looks like Soriano's days are numbered.

KILLERBS24 · 07-13-2006, 05:14 PM

Wow, what is that. Kearns, Lopez and Wagner are talented underachievers and you might be sick of waiting for them to live up to their abilities but you can't just basically give them away. Majewski is a nice reliever but he is not a dominant bullpen guy, a couple ok spects. Ugly trade

abailey3313 · 07-13-2006, 05:19 PM

The Reds got ripped.

crackpott · 07-13-2006, 05:32 PM

I always like trades where someone gets clearly fleeced.

Green & Gold Heart · 07-13-2006, 05:54 PM

Yikes. I would've thought they could have gotten way more for Kearns & Lopez. Lots of teams looking for bats.

Yikes.

ozziethesaint · 07-13-2006, 05:56 PM

God that trade is just ugly

reds1 · 07-13-2006, 06:05 PM

Holy crow.

disposableheros · 07-13-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SJPhilsFan

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314

Looks like Soriano's days are numbered.

why is that? Guillen and Byrd have sucked all season. maybe one them should be scared instead?

darkhorse · 07-13-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SJPhilsFan

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314

Looks like Soriano's days are numbered.

They should trade Sori to the Chicago. The White Sox could do with a major league quality player in left field.

SJPhilsFan · 07-13-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

They should trade Sori to the Chicago. The White Sox could do with a major league quality player in left field.

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Giants | Team recently scouted Soriano
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:49:33 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the San Francisco Giants have recently scouted Washington Nationals OF Alfonso Soriano.

Dodgers | Team interested in Soriano
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:49:19 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the Los Angeles Dodgers are interested in Washington Nationals OF Alfonso Soriano. The team is unlikely to acquire him unless the Dodgers can move SP Odalis Perez.

Yankees | Team interested in Soriano
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:40:18 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the New York Yankees are interested in Washington Nationals OF Alfonso Soriano. However, they are waiting to see if other, more suitable targets go on the trade market as the trade deadline nears.

Athletics | Team recently scouted Soriano
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:47:24 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the Oakland Athletics have recently scouted Washington Nationals OF Alfonso Soriano. However, it is unlikely the team would be able to acquire him.

Angels | Team recently scouted Soriano
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:40:49 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim have recently scouted Washington Nationals OF Alfonso Soriano.

Those are some of the team's mentioned to be looking at Soriano. Another interesting one is:

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Cardinals | Team recently scouted Vidro
Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:28:05 -0700
Jim Molony, of MLB.com, reports the St. Louis Cardinals recently scouted Washington Nationals 2B Jose Vidro.

I guess they could trade Vidro and shift Soriano back to second, but I fail to see Soriano's value ever getting higher.

I'm not too familiar with the Nats farm system, but I feel that team needs SP prospects. Livan appears to be on the way out. Armas doesn't last deep into games and is an injury risk. Patterson has potential, but I believe he has a history of arm problems as well. Aside from Brandon McCarthy, what could the White Sox offer?

Joshv02 · 07-13-2006, 07:07 PM

Bowden Rocks

bigdgp2 · 07-13-2006, 07:17 PM

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Bowden Rocks

Mike Ivie · 07-13-2006, 07:20 PM

Good trade for the Reds! I am sure the veteran clubhouse leadship of Royce Clayton will pay dividends!

redsfan28 · 07-13-2006, 07:23 PM

Nice to see Jim Bowden still screwing the Reds after they fired him 3 years ago.

Joshv02 · 07-13-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdgp2

Jim Bowden may be one of the top 2 GMs today - surely in the top 3. I can't imagine why a team would ever want to trade with him as he always comes out on top.

mgsports79 · 07-13-2006, 08:02 PM

Guzman could be the next SS from the Nats to be traded.
Freel is probley the RF know for the Reds.
How about Soriano/Hernandez or Armas Jr/Vidro or Guillen to the Cardinals for John Gall,Luna,Travis Hanson,Schumaker,Hawksworth,Kinney,Flores and others?
Soriano can play LF if Vidro on the team but if Vidro not Soriano at 2B and Guillen or Juan E. in LF and the other in RF.

swampdragon · 07-13-2006, 08:08 PM

That's awful. I would say they're throwing in the towel, but this trade doesn't help their past, present or future. Simple stupidity, I suppose.

ozziethesaint · 07-13-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports79

Guzman could be the next SS from the Nats to be traded.
Freel is probley the RF know for the Reds.
How about Soriano/Hernandez or Armas Jr/Vidro or Guillen to the Cardinals for John Gall,Luna,Travis Hanson,Schumaker,Hawksworth,Kinney,Flores and others?
Soriano can play LF if Vidro on the team but if Vidro not Soriano at 2B and Guillen or Juan E. in LF and the other in RF.

after it took me forever to figure out what you were talking about, I truly hope you aren't thinking those are good trade options for the Cards
Luna is quickly becoming a very valuable player for the Cards. Hanson is one of the few legit power threats in the system, Hawksworth is one of our best SP prospects and Flores is key to an already weak bullpen

UngratefulDead · 07-13-2006, 09:18 PM

The deals made for Arroyo and Hatteberg were both bad ideas that worked out well, IMO, so I think this is further evidence that Wayne Krivsky was really more lucky than good. I mean, how do you lose a trade with Jim Bowden? Did he offer to throw in Ryan Zimmerman and Krivsky turned him down?

HoustonGM · 07-13-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports79

Guzman could be the next SS from the Nats to be traded.

He's out for the year. Nobody's going to take him. He's crap anyway.

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Freel is probley the RF know for the Reds.

I sure hope so.

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How about Soriano/Hernandez or Armas Jr/Vidro or Guillen to the Cardinals for John Gall,Luna,Travis Hanson,Schumaker,Hawksworth,Kinney,Flores and others?

Um, wtf?

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Soriano can play LF if Vidro on the team but if Vidro not Soriano at 2B and Guillen or Juan E. in LF and the other in RF.

Who's Juan E?? There's no Juan E on the Nationals.

07-13-2006, 05:09 PM	#1
SJPhilsFan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South NJ Posts: 72	Kearns, Lopez traded to Nats http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314 Looks like Soriano's days are numbered.

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KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	Wow, what is that. Kearns, Lopez and Wagner are talented underachievers and you might be sick of waiting for them to live up to their abilities but you can't just basically give them away. Majewski is a nice reliever but he is not a dominant bullpen guy, a couple ok spects. Ugly trade __________________ Asterisked legacy: Barry Bonds, the greatest steroid user ever

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07-13-2006, 05:54 PM	#5
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Yikes. I would've thought they could have gotten way more for Kearns & Lopez. Lots of teams looking for bats. Yikes.

07-13-2006, 05:56 PM	#6
ozziethesaint Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 831	God that trade is just ugly

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Mike Ivie Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 203	Good trade for the Reds! I am sure the veteran clubhouse leadship of Royce Clayton will pay dividends! __________________ NBL - San Diego Padres

07-13-2006, 07:23 PM	#14
redsfan28 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30	Nice to see Jim Bowden still screwing the Reds after they fired him 3 years ago.

07-13-2006, 08:02 PM	#16
mgsports79 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 121	Guzman could be the next SS from the Nats to be traded. Freel is probley the RF know for the Reds. How about Soriano/Hernandez or Armas Jr/Vidro or Guillen to the Cardinals for John Gall,Luna,Travis Hanson,Schumaker,Hawksworth,Kinney,Flores and others? Soriano can play LF if Vidro on the team but if Vidro not Soriano at 2B and Guillen or Juan E. in LF and the other in RF. __________________ Viva la Mexican Revolution!

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swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	That's awful. I would say they're throwing in the towel, but this trade doesn't help their past, present or future. Simple stupidity, I suppose. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

07-13-2006, 09:18 PM	#19
UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	The deals made for Arroyo and Hatteberg were both bad ideas that worked out well, IMO, so I think this is further evidence that Wayne Krivsky was really more lucky than good. I mean, how do you lose a trade with Jim Bowden? Did he offer to throw in Ryan Zimmerman and Krivsky turned him down? Last edited by UngratefulDead; 07-13-2006 at 09:19 PM.