Report: Steve Nash wins 2nd straight NBA MVP

Raderick · 04-26-2006, 07:45 AM

Reported on Mike & Mike in the Morning via a story by the Arizona Republic

Raderick · 04-26-2006, 07:46 AM

Link:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...6nash0426.html

GoCubsAndJays · 04-26-2006, 08:07 AM

I don't agree with this at all. I don't see how it could not go to Bryant. He had 50+ points 7 times I believe, and without him, Lakers have NO shot at going anywhere.

Tribe Fan 24 · 04-26-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCubsAndJays

I don't agree with this at all. I don't see how it could not go to Bryant. He had 50+ points 7 times I believe, and without him, Lakers have NO shot at going anywhere.

Could make the same arguement for LeBron James.

Dougiestyle · 04-26-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCubsAndJays

I don't agree with this at all. I don't see how it could not go to Bryant. He had 50+ points 7 times I believe, and without him, Lakers have NO shot at going anywhere.

Eh, there are 3 guys: Nash, Bryant, and James, who, if either of them won, I wouldn't complain.

KurtBevacqua · 04-26-2006, 10:53 AM

In addition to Kobe and LeBron, I'd take Wade and Duncan over Nash. Sorry guys, but I just don't see Nash in the same category as those other guys. I think as far as PG's go, John Stockton was better than Nash, but he never got any real consideration for MVP. And yet Nash now has two on the shelf. I feel like I'm just not grasping something here.

His Own Bad Self · 04-26-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Eh, there are 3 guys: Nash, Bryant, and James, who, if either of them won, I wouldn't complain.

Agreed - I would have voted for James, but I could understand any of these three.

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Originally Posted by KurtBevacqua

Sorry guys, but I just don't see Nash in the same category as those other guys. I think as far as PG's go, John Stockton was better than Nash, but he never got any real consideration for MVP. And yet Nash now has two on the shelf.

I agree even more with this, although I think Nash has a much better case this year than he did last year. Last year, he was just lucky that every single great player had a subpar year.

yankeesrule · 04-26-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtBevacqua

In addition to Kobe and LeBron, I'd take Wade and Duncan over Nash.

Agree with Kobe, Lebron, and D-Wade over Nash but not sure about Duncan. He hasn't been the same this year cuz of his foot problems and although he's still be great, guess its just because he hasn't been up to his normal GREATNESS level that we've come to expect of him.

swampdragon · 04-26-2006, 11:45 AM

I think I would have voted for James this year, although Nowitzki doesn't get nearly enough credit in these discussions. 1. James 2. Nowitzki

KurtBevacqua · 04-26-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by swampdragon

I think I would have voted for James this year, although Nowitzki doesn't get nearly enough credit in these discussions. 1. James 2. Nowitzki

Oops, forgot Nowitzki. This year I'd put him over Nash too.

Y0DA55 · 04-26-2006, 12:15 PM

I really don't care one way or the other. But...

How can Steve Nash have more MVPs than Shaq?

Jason · 04-26-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dougiestyle

Eh, there are 3 guys: Nash, Bryant, and James, who, if either of them won, I wouldn't complain.

Yeah, this is one of the rare years where you have 3-4 guys who all deserve the MVP and it's not a case of "X didn't deserve it." It's that "sure, I can see X getting it, but it should have been Y."

mh2365 · 04-26-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCubsAndJays

I don't agree with this at all. I don't see how it could not go to Bryant. He had 50+ points 7 times I believe, and without him, Lakers have NO shot at going anywhere.

50 points and 1 assist in most of those situations. You are right that the Lakers aren't in the playoffs without him, but Kobe is no MVP. Without Phil Jackson they weren't in the playoffs last year, so the way I see it Phil is more important than Kobe.

Nash, Lebron, and Wade IMO are the 3 most valuable players to their team. Talking about Kobe willing the Lakers into the playoffs, Nash played with 7 guys named Larry all year long and they finished higher than the Lakers.

I hate to be the guy to throw this out also, but I think maybe you should be more than 2 or 3 years removed from your rape allegations before you become MVP. Although Ray Lewis was what 6 months off of ratting out his boys when he won Super Bowl MVP. So what do I know

QuestGAV · 04-26-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Y0DA55

I really don't care one way or the other. But...

How can Steve Nash have more MVPs than Shaq?

George Bush hates black people.

JDOldSchool · 04-26-2006, 12:46 PM

So has there ever been, in any sport, a more undeserving two-time MVP?

The guy can't play defense. His old team GOT BETTER WITHOUT HIM. This is just asinine voting. There's at least a handful of guys who are more valuable to their team.

His Own Bad Self · 04-26-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Nash played with 7 guys named Larry all year long and they finished higher than the Lakers.

Yeah, Shawn Marion really sucks, doesn't he? It's not like he can rebound at all, and it's not like he gives them anything on defense...

Bobbuttons · 04-26-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale And Eli's Dad

"sure, I can see X getting it, but it should have been Y."

John Adams said this, too, I think.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 04-26-2006, 01:03 PM

Nash wasn't one of the five best in the league this year.

I could see either Kobe or LeBron winning it. Also, Duncan, Nowitski and Wade are more deserving than Nash. Hard to see this as anything other than the "we like the white guy who speaks English" vote.

Bobbuttons · 04-26-2006, 01:06 PM

LeBron: 6 Triple Doubles, 21 Double Doubles
Kobe: 0 Triple Doubles, 4 Double Doubles

'Nuff said.

04-26-2006, 01:10 PM

Steve Nash as the MVP last year was a real huge stretch, but OK, he's a nice story, and it's just a one year thing, right? Guess not. Steve Nash as the MVP this year is just a farce.

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KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	In addition to Kobe and LeBron, I'd take Wade and Duncan over Nash. Sorry guys, but I just don't see Nash in the same category as those other guys. I think as far as PG's go, John Stockton was better than Nash, but he never got any real consideration for MVP. And yet Nash now has two on the shelf. I feel like I'm just not grasping something here. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

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GoCubsAndJays All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 839	I don't agree with this at all. I don't see how it could not go to Bryant. He had 50+ points 7 times I believe, and without him, Lakers have NO shot at going anywhere.

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JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	So has there ever been, in any sport, a more undeserving two-time MVP? The guy can't play defense. His old team GOT BETTER WITHOUT HIM. This is just asinine voting. There's at least a handful of guys who are more valuable to their team.

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Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Nash wasn't one of the five best in the league this year. I could see either Kobe or LeBron winning it. Also, Duncan, Nowitski and Wade are more deserving than Nash. Hard to see this as anything other than the "we like the white guy who speaks English" vote. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

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Yyzlin Guest Posts: n/a	Steve Nash as the MVP last year was a real huge stretch, but OK, he's a nice story, and it's just a one year thing, right? Guess not. Steve Nash as the MVP this year is just a farce.