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Earlier versions of OOTP: Suggestions and Feature Wish List Let us know what you would like to see in future versions of OOTP! OOTPBM 2006 is in development, and there is still time left to get your suggestions into the game.

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Old 03-19-2006, 08:32 PM   #1
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Spring Training plans

will this game still have spring training games. i haven't followed too closely, but id like to suggest that if this game does indeed have spring training games in the preseason, that the players' performances in these games have an effect on their development in the offseason. Id also like to suggest that the game allow us to pencil in certain players for a certain amount of innings.

For example from the first two weeks you can carry say a 60 man roster. during the first two weeks, you give your SPs 3 or 4 innings worth of work, then have another SP to pick up 3 innings himself, and the rest of the innings you do relievers for one inning a piece.

2 weeks later you get rid of some guys and make your starters go 4 or 5 innings and then 1 inning relief appearances. hell even have split-squad games to get all your guys enough playing time in the spring.

i realize we have pitch counts now through the strategies, but i figured setting innings for preseason games would be nice. especially if it affected development. anywho, just thoughts.
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:19 PM   #2
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If there are spring games I think there should be some development, but not big jumps. Maybe very limited development for established veterans, but maybe players in AA or AAA would get a little more development out of spring training, just cause they would be seeing major league pitching
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:53 AM   #3
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yes, there ARE actual ST games.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:48 AM   #4
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Also things like Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad Games,Minor League Camp,String Training Stadiums,Games against College and your Minor League Teams and so on will be include!
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:39 AM   #5
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Also things like Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad Games,Minor League Camp,String Training Stadiums,Games against College and your Minor League Teams and so on will be include!
I don't remember any of that info.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:38 PM   #6
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i like the idea of Spring Training plans. Especially if the games have anything to do with development.

With the seven day lineups with can kinda' control how much playing time position players work. If we had the same kinda' seven day control over our pitching staffs it would be great. Just allow us to pick the specific day's starter and who you want available to pitch out of the bullpen.

Then we'd only need a check box to determine how we wanted the game managed. Maybe label it exhibition game. When it's checked the game is managed like you'd manage an all star game, trying to get as many players in as possible. But unchecked, the game is treated like a regular season game.

But, i don't want development from Spring Training to be performanced based. If a player hits a home run off Pedro Astacio, that's not gonna' help him hit Roy Oswalt any better. Or striking out Kevin Orrie won't help you pitch to Lance Berkman any better. i would rather Spring Training be about getting players ready to play. Maybe, at the start of ST, their ratings are slightly lower than they would normally be. And, if they don't get enough, at bats/innings they'll start the season "behind".

i would still like to set the traditional spring training plans. i just don't think it ought to be see an instantaneous result right then. It's not like you can tell a guy, hit more home runs and he goes out and does it the next day. It should more like, work on getting more power this season, and (if he can) he'll gradually start increasing throughout the season.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:53 PM   #7
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i like the idea of Spring Training plans. Especially if the games have anything to do with development.

With the seven day lineups with can kinda' control how much playing time position players work. If we had the same kinda' seven day control over our pitching staffs it would be great. Just allow us to pick the specific day's starter and who you want available to pitch out of the bullpen.

Then we'd only need a check box to determine how we wanted the game managed. Maybe label it exhibition game. When it's checked the game is managed like you'd manage an all star game, trying to get as many players in as possible. But unchecked, the game is treated like a regular season game.

But, i don't want development from Spring Training to be performanced based. If a player hits a home run off Pedro Astacio, that's not gonna' help him hit Roy Oswalt any better. Or striking out Kevin Orrie won't help you pitch to Lance Berkman any better. i would rather Spring Training be about getting players ready to play. Maybe, at the start of ST, their ratings are slightly lower than they would normally be. And, if they don't get enough, at bats/innings they'll start the season "behind".

i would still like to set the traditional spring training plans. i just don't think it ought to be see an instantaneous result right then. It's not like you can tell a guy, hit more home runs and he goes out and does it the next day. It should more like, work on getting more power this season, and (if he can) he'll gradually start increasing throughout the season.
Or maybe just re-vamp the "tired" system to be a meter. The "ready" zone will be in the middle, with a "rusty" zone at the beginning if the player doesn't get enough work and a "tired" zone if the player gets too much work.

This could work for the regular season as well as Spring Training. That way, if you don't use your closer for a week during the regular season, he'll be a little rusty when you call on him. You can't just forget about your backup players; you have to get them some work so they perform up to their capabilities when you call on them.
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If its anything like EHM, you have non-roster players and split-squad games. You don't get to see the SS games though.

I also like the idea of development you guys are talking about. That's really what ST is all about anyway. Getting guys ready to play and seeing who is going to come up north.
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Or maybe just re-vamp the "tired" system to be a meter. The "ready" zone will be in the middle, with a "rusty" zone at the beginning if the player doesn't get enough work and a "tired" zone if the player gets too much work.

This could work for the regular season as well as Spring Training. That way, if you don't use your closer for a week during the regular season, he'll be a little rusty when you call on him. You can't just forget about your backup players; you have to get them some work so they perform up to their capabilities when you call on them.
This would also be something that could be used for players who have been on the DL. If they get into the "rusty" zone, it might be a good idea to give them a rehab assignment before they come back to the major league team.
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If its anything like EHM, you have non-roster players and split-squad games. You don't get to see the SS games though.

I also like the idea of development you guys are talking about. That's really what ST is all about anyway. Getting guys ready to play and seeing who is going to come up north.
However, I would like to see some guys come into camp "in shape" so that they're almost ready to go and don't need that much work. You'd still have to give them some time to get them ready and then keep them there, but you don't need to give them as much time as others.

Not everyone should start at the same level, and maybe only a few guys should start completely at the bottom.
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However, I would like to see some guys come into camp "in shape" so that they're almost ready to go and don't need that much work. You'd still have to give them some time to get them ready and then keep them there, but you don't need to give them as much time as others.

Not everyone should start at the same level, and maybe only a few guys should start completely at the bottom.
Another good idea.
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Good ideas, DiMaggio and Rain King. i'm all for it!
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:47 PM   #13
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Also things like Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad Games,Minor League Camp,String Training Stadiums,Games against College and your Minor League Teams and so on will be include!
Don't count on it. ST games, yes, split squad, maybe - but I doubt the detail your listing would be added.
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Let's be real. The game is hopefully only a few weeks or months away. I'm going to be happy whatever gets in it.
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:16 PM   #15
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Non Roster Players and Pitchers would be like Players who are in for a try out like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager meaning they aren't on the 40 man roster but invited to camp! Games against your Minor League or College teams would have to be arranged! Split SQuad agmes would be like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager when that game has up to Four teams meaning every team would have a Blue/Red and 2 other colors teams for camp! Spring Training Stadiums would be good and be able to move your Spring Training home!
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