MLB TRADE NEWS!!! Mondesi a Yankee!!!

Otops · 07-01-2002, 08:05 PM

Gotta love it!!!

Steve Kuffrey · 07-01-2002, 08:07 PM

Correction to quote...

"In a perfect world, there would be NO yankees"......

Cooleyvol · 07-01-2002, 08:11 PM

YOU GO, GEORGIE!!

Go Tribe · 07-01-2002, 08:15 PM

"Quick, someone get me a .221 hitter ..........NOW!"

Carplos · 07-01-2002, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
Correction to quote...

"In a perfect world, there would be NO yankees"......

Correction to your correction..

"In a perfect world, there would be NO New York."

CMH · 07-01-2002, 09:15 PM

i hate this deal!!!

mondesi is a loose cannon...totally negates the Yankee clubhouse structure...argh!

Steve Kuffrey · 07-01-2002, 09:20 PM

What the Yankees need is Costanza....

CommishJoe · 07-01-2002, 09:28 PM

Why do I like this deal? He was cheap. The Yanks still have the kiddie power to go after Weaver now if they feel they need to patch their rotation (and I would LOVE Weaver over El Duque anyday).

Carplos · 07-01-2002, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by CommishJoe
Why do I like this deal? He was cheap. The Yanks still have the kiddie power to go after Weaver now if they feel they need to patch their rotation (and I would LOVE Weaver over El Duque anyday).

The Tigers just signed Weaver (well, before the season) a pretty cheap 4 year deal, so I doubt he'll be going anywhere.

OOTPislife · 07-01-2002, 09:55 PM

Baseball needs a salary cap or the whole league is going to go in the crapper even further

Bagpipes5 · 07-01-2002, 10:00 PM

I think the Yankees should jack their payroll to around $200mil and go 162-0 every year. Why the hell not? Nobody is willing to put an end to this madness. This sucks for everyone else AGAIN.

CMH · 07-01-2002, 10:06 PM

i dont think it would guarentee a 162-0 season. baseball is not basketball where one signing can change your team. ofcourse, with 200 million you can get 9 big signings. so i see your point.

anywayz, i agree. something has to be done. i love the yankees and i'm not upset with them b/c they are merely taking advantage of the system and there's nothing wrong or illegal about it.

however, i wish there was an opportunity for all 30 teams to take advantage of the system too.

Carplos · 07-01-2002, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by OOTPislife
Baseball needs a salary cap or the whole league is going to go in the crapper even further

Stuffing the owners pockets with even more money isn't CRAPPY?

Scott Vibert · 07-01-2002, 10:49 PM

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Mondesi: Expensive mediocrity

Great Quote! Here's the rest of the box from ESPN.

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Raul Mondesi has long been one of baseball's most overrated players, and the six-year, $60 million contract the Dodgers gave him January 1998 was one of the worst signings of recent years.

He's never driven in 100 runs in a season and his career-high of 33 HRs (in 1999) is pedestrian by today's standards, especially those for a $10-million-a-year player. He's had an on-base percentage higher than .350 just once in his career.

This year, despite 15 HRs, he ranks just 57th in the AL in OPS (on-base + slugging). In fact, check his numbers vs. the totals for Yankee right fielders this year:

Mondesi
.224 AVG, .301 OBP, .435 SLG
Yankees' RFs
.276 AVG, .341 OBP, .423 SLG

Mondesi isn't really any better than the John Vander Wal/Shane Spencer combo, although the trade allows those two to play left field in place of Rondell White (.706 OPS).

J.P. Ricciardi found a taker for Mondesi ... the only team that can afford to take on such an expensive mediocrity.
-- David Schoenfield

All this for a lefty minor league pitcher and the willingness to blow 13 million and a roster spot on him next year.

More telling is the fact that the Yankees according to the article are the only team to have expressed any interest in Mondesi, who's been on the block since Riccardi took over as Toronto GM.

OOTPislife · 07-01-2002, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Carplos

Stuffing the owners pockets with even more money isn't CRAPPY?

I don't disagree at all. The owners are the ones that I am criticizing. The Yankees arent doing anything wrong except for playing within the rules. Kind of like when I made trades with the A.I.. I was able to get Pedro and whoemever else I wanted. After awhile, i needed a new challenge. I am a baseball fan for almost 30 years and realize that my Phillies don't have the money(laughing) to compete. Baseball is a great sport that unfortunatley is run by people who for the most part could care less about it's future.

CMH · 07-01-2002, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by ScottVib

Great Quote! Here's the rest of the box from ESPN.

All this for a lefty minor league pitcher and the willingness to blow 13 million and a roster spot on him next year.

More telling is the fact that the Yankees according to the article are the only team to have expressed any interest in Mondesi, who's been on the block since Riccardi took over as Toronto GM.

once again, i hate this trade. not as upset as before, but i still hate it.

sporr · 07-01-2002, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by YankeePride
however, i wish there was an opportunity for all 30 teams to take advantage of the system too.

The problem is that many teams do make the money to be able to sign big name players but they choose not to.

JML · 07-01-2002, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
What the Yankees need is Costanza....

Derek: Who are you again?

George: The assistant to the traveling secretary. Now do you guys wanna chat or do you wanna win some ballgames?

Derek: We did win the World Series last year.

George: Pfft. In six games.

Man, I love that episode.

Carplos · 07-02-2002, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by OOTPislife

I don't disagree at all. The owners are the ones that I am criticizing. The Yankees arent doing anything wrong except for playing within the rules. Kind of like when I made trades with the A.I.. I was able to get Pedro and whoemever else I wanted. After awhile, i needed a new challenge. I am a baseball fan for almost 30 years and realize that my Phillies don't have the money(laughing) to compete. Baseball is a great sport that unfortunatley is run by people who for the most part could care less about it's future.

But that's the Phillies *OWN* fault. They're run by idiots. They're in the 4th largest market in MLB and they don't use it. Can't blame MLB there.

CMH · 07-02-2002, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by sporr

The problem is that many teams do make the money to be able to sign big name players but they choose not to.

exactly. just like that idiot in kansas city.

some small market teams complain about competition and not making money but their owners pocket everything.

you guys made a valid claim that the Yankees, and other big money making teams, should share their tv revenue from games. like 50/50 or something. or the small teams should say we wont play baseball...it was something like that

now i like the idea, and i think its valid but the real question is how many of those teams will actually take that 50% (or even the 50% bud selig is pushing for in sharing) and push it out to their teams? my guess is that only Oakland will really do that, being as they have 5 big stars in Zito, Mulder, Hudson, Chavez and Tejada who they will have to pay sometime.

i think it really sucks that those guys wont be together in 3-4 years. thats depressing.

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	What the Yankees need is Costanza.... __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

07-01-2002, 08:11 PM	#3
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	YOU GO, GEORGIE!!

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Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	"Quick, someone get me a .221 hitter ..........NOW!"

07-01-2002, 09:15 PM	#6
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	i hate this deal!!! mondesi is a loose cannon...totally negates the Yankee clubhouse structure...argh!

07-01-2002, 09:28 PM	#8
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Why do I like this deal? He was cheap. The Yanks still have the kiddie power to go after Weaver now if they feel they need to patch their rotation (and I would LOVE Weaver over El Duque anyday).

07-01-2002, 09:55 PM	#10
OOTPislife Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 32	Baseball needs a salary cap or the whole league is going to go in the crapper even further

07-01-2002, 10:00 PM	#11
Bagpipes5 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: TX Posts: 460	I think the Yankees should jack their payroll to around $200mil and go 162-0 every year. Why the hell not? Nobody is willing to put an end to this madness. This sucks for everyone else AGAIN.

07-01-2002, 10:06 PM	#12
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	i dont think it would guarentee a 162-0 season. baseball is not basketball where one signing can change your team. ofcourse, with 200 million you can get 9 big signings. so i see your point. anywayz, i agree. something has to be done. i love the yankees and i'm not upset with them b/c they are merely taking advantage of the system and there's nothing wrong or illegal about it. however, i wish there was an opportunity for all 30 teams to take advantage of the system too.