Need to know if will be in game

mgsports · 02-11-2006, 09:32 AM

Real Minor Leagues meaning Teams Names,Stadiums/Dome/Fields/Parks,real Players and Pitchers that aren't on a MLB 40 man roster,Real Personal and Staff?
Relocation so let say we wanted to move the Marlins in let say 2015 to Las Vegas we could also goes for Minor League teams?
Historical License so we can have like Babe Ruth,Tom Seaver,Lee Smith,Frank Howard,Dale Murphy,Luis Tiant and others in the game?
Spring Training Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad games,Minor League Camp,games against College Teams and your minor league teams and Spring Training Stadiums/Domes and so on?

BigCity · 02-11-2006, 10:10 AM

We'll have to wait for the game - or further updates - to find out a lot of stuff, but here's a little of it...

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Real Minor Leagues meaning Teams Names,Stadiums/Dome/Fields/Parks,real Players and Pitchers that aren't on a MLB 40 man roster,Real Personal and Staff?

Minor league team affiliations appear to be totally customizable from the screen shots. I doubt the game will set these up automatically since they change every year.

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Relocation so let say we wanted to move the Marlins in let say 2015 to Las Vegas we could also goes for Minor League teams?

I would assume the minor league affliations would remain the same if the parent club were moved.[/quote]

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Historical License so we can have like Babe Ruth,Tom Seaver,Lee Smith,Frank Howard,Dale Murphy,Luis Tiant and others in the game?

Not going to happen in the official game for the current season (last year) but rosters will certainly be available from Lahman and others, however, as they always have been in previous versions. PS: "licensing" is only required for current, active, players / members of the players union. And since Take Two has the exclusive license, that eliminates any chance OOTP can include their names in the game as sold. What you add as a customer, however, is not covered in any licensing agreement.

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Spring Training Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad games,Minor League Camp,games against College Teams and your minor league teams and Spring Training Stadiums/Domes and so on?

There will be Spring Training games - but probably not to that detail. Markus made mention that ST games would be added, but I don't think he meant the entire Spring Training configuration / leagues.

By the way, most ballparks made for previous versions will work in the new game as far as the graphics are concerned. The ballpark display remains a 640*480 graphic object.

tim_uwrf · 02-11-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCity

Minor league team affiliations appear to be totally customizable from the screen shots. I doubt the game will set these up automatically since they change every year.

That was always a pet peeve of mine. I hate having to manually add a team name to all the minor leagues. I wish the game randomly gave team names and then people could change them as they see fit.

I see you are talking about affiliations, but I hope that is the case if I set up a fictional league. Or at least have a button to click so it can automatically do it.

mgsports · 02-11-2006, 02:20 PM

But that's only for Video games beacuse Take Two doesn't make any Baseball games for the PC so if the developers wanted to get a MLB TeamStadium/Dome/Players/Staff and Personal License it could for this game! Also MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball aren't made anymore! Know MVP Baseball didn't have MLB Players License so Jim Dowd was used as Barry Bond's name!
Spring Training will have all the Bells and Whistle that I said!
I meant is a Minor League License meaning no fake team names like Orlando Suns or Overland Park Jayhawks but like Iowa Cubs or Charlotte Knights or Springfield Cardinals and also no Fake Players and Pitchers names the names like the ones in 2006 Draft or drafted in 2005 drafted or going to start in Rookie Ball this year not on a 40 man roster and so on!
MLB teams don't chenge their Minor League afflications ever just so over just when their contract runs out if they don't renew the release of it!

disposableheros · 02-11-2006, 02:35 PM

minor league teams do change affiliations and more often than you seem to think
if there aint going to be an MLB license why would there be a minor league license and i dont know for sure but i would think an MLB license would cover the minor leagues as well seeing that they are part of the MLB
ive got to assume that relocation will be in the game the same way it already is you just change the name of the city and nickname if you want

BigCity · 02-11-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

But that's only for Video games beacuse Take Two doesn't make any Baseball games for the PC so if the developers wanted to get a MLB TeamStadium/Dome/Players/Staff and Personal License it could for this game! Also MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball aren't made anymore! Know MVP Baseball didn't have MLB Players License so Jim Dowd was used as Barry Bond's name!

"All other third-party publishers and developers are precluded from publishing officially licensed MLB simulation, arcade, and manager style games, either directly or in affiliation with a hardware manufacturer, during the length of the exclusives. Take-Two will be the sole developer, publisher and distributor of licensed simulation, arcade and manager-style Major League Baseball PC games."

What part of this statement don't you understand?

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I meant is a Minor League License meaning no fake team names like Orlando Suns or Overland Park Jayhawks but like Iowa Cubs or Charlotte Knights or Springfield Cardinals and also no Fake Players and Pitchers names the names like the ones in 2006 Draft or drafted in 2005 drafted or going to start in Rookie Ball this year not on a 40 man roster and so on!

"The exclusives include rights to the marks of all 30 Major League Baseball Clubs, MLB players, Major League ballparks and Minor League Baseball Clubs, as well as MLB.com online content, for use in Take-Two's baseball games."

Pretty much eliminates the minor leagues.

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MLB teams don't chenge their Minor League afflications ever just so over just when their contract runs out if they don't renew the release of it!

Moot point given the above....

Faroo6 · 02-11-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Know MVP Baseball didn't have MLB Players License so Jim Dowd was used as Barry Bond's name!

I thought we covered this in another thread. Barry Bonds is NOT part of the the MLB Players License. MVP did have the MLBPA License. I repeat, Bonds is NOT part of the MLBPA, therefore you get Dowd.

mgsports · 02-11-2006, 08:48 PM

Take Two was making baseball Video games when MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball were still been made I think! So what's the difference with this PC Baseball game having a MLB License and MLB 06 or what ever Take Two is calling the next version having it to? NHL Eastside Hockey Manager-PC game has a NHL License and so does NHL 06 Video/PC game and also Total Pro Basketball-PC does as does NBALIVE 06-Video/PC game!
A MLB team would apply for relocation if they can't get a new Stadium built like the Expos,Senators and did and also what the Marlins are doing if they can't find another place in Miami to build or if a team is sold to a new Owner and the new Owner want's to move that team! Minor League Relocation would be like St. Louis moved their Double-A team that was in Tennessee to Springfield,MO!
Black Monday
Can have 8 teams from each league in the Playoffs,Multi Team Trades,Wavier Trades will really happen and also can have Interleague play all year round!

BigCity · 02-11-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Take Two was making baseball Video games when MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball were still been made I think! So what's the difference with this PC Baseball game having a MLB License and MLB 06 or what ever Take Two is calling the next version having it to? NHL Eastside Hockey Manager-PC game has a NHL License and so does NHL 06 Video/PC game and also Total Pro Basketball-PC does as does NBALIVE 06-Video/PC game!

The difference is that Take Two and the MLB just signed an "exclusive" agreement for 7 years - meaning no one but Take Two can make a game that uses MLB references unless they are hardware makers, such as Sony and Nintendo who will retain the right to enter into development agreements for MLB games specific to their particular platforms. Bottom line is that Take Two has the ONLY rights to make a baseball game referencing the MLB on the PC platform - plain and simple.

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A MLB team would apply for relocation if they can't get a new Stadium built like the Expos,Senators and did and also what the Marlins are doing if they can't find another place in Miami to build or if a team is sold to a new Owner and the new Owner want's to move that team! Minor League Relocation would be like St. Louis moved their Double-A team that was in Tennessee to Springfield,MO!

I'm not sure what your going after here. You will be able to change the locations of an MLB team when you wish - and the minor league affiliates will go with it.

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Can have 8 teams from each league in the Playoffs,Multi Team Trades,Wavier Trades will really happen and also can have Interleague play all year round!

There will be some added flexibility in playoff configurations but there are no details yet. I haven't heard anything concerning multi-team trades or waiver trades, I would guess not in this version. And it is expected that interleague play will be included, although we have no idea at this time how the game scheduler will handle this.

<o> · 02-11-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Take Two was making baseball Video games when MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball were still been made I think! So what's the difference with this PC Baseball game having a MLB License and MLB 06 or what ever Take Two is calling the next version having it to? NHL Eastside Hockey Manager-PC game has a NHL License and so does NHL 06 Video/PC game and also Total Pro Basketball-PC does as does NBALIVE 06-Video/PC game!
A MLB team would apply for relocation if they can't get a new Stadium built like the Expos,Senators and did and also what the Marlins are doing if they can't find another place in Miami to build or if a team is sold to a new Owner and the new Owner want's to move that team! Minor League Relocation would be like St. Louis moved their Double-A team that was in Tennessee to Springfield,MO!
Black Monday
Can have 8 teams from each league in the Playoffs,Multi Team Trades,Wavier Trades will really happen and also can have Interleague play all year round!

Total Pro Basketball doesn't have an NBA License. The MLB license takes affect this year. There is no exclusive for NHL or NBA.

mgsports · 02-12-2006, 11:22 AM

Then why has NBALIVE and NHL for EA Sports have had a real Players/Staff/Personal and Teams since they came out!
Total Pro Basketball was shipped with real Players/Teams/Personal/Staff as I know of and I could be wrong and people have just made real Rosters and so on!
Okay for the last time then I will stop talking about MLB license Take Two can have the MLB License just for Video games and their should be a separt one for PC games meaning this game can have that one! Bottom line is that Take Two has the ONLY rights to make a baseball game referencing the MLB on the not PC platform but Video game platform - plain and simple because they haven't made any baseball games for the PC as I know of but if they want to help in making this game they could then their would be a MLB license in this game.
The anwser is yes these 2 will be in the game multi-team trades or waiver trades!
This what I mean about Minor League Relocation is like this Reds extend affiliation with Bats through '08,League approves Silver Hawks transfer,Seattle Mariners Vice President of Player Development & Scouting Benny Looper announced today that the Mariners have extended their working agreement with the Everett AquaSox of the short-season Class A Northwest League. The Player Development contract, which would have run out at the end of the 2006 season, has been extended to cover the 2007 and 2008 seasons and this story and http://www.minorleaguenews.com/baseb...090204.htmland I would like to see it happen in the game like that!
I would like computer control teams to rename teams if they want to meaning appear magically the new team and also letting us know in a News Aritcle or Press Release that this has happened!

BigCity · 02-12-2006, 11:54 AM

Look MG, I'm getting a bit irritated at your attitude. This isn't up for discussion. The agreement (binding and legal) says Take Two has the rights to ALL MLB referenced baseball games on the PC platform. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it, or whether it's right or wrong - it is the way it is. Quit getting hung up on the word "video". As I quoted directly from the agreement, "Take-Two will be the sole developer, publisher and distributor of licensed simulation, arcade and manager-style Major League Baseball PC games." It simpy doesn't get any clearer than that. Just becasue Take Two doesn't make a game like OOTP simply doesn't matter - they now have the right to, and to use MLB references as well.

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Then why has NBALIVE and NHL for EA Sports have had a real Players/Staff/Personal and Teams since they came out!

Total Pro Basketball was shipped with real Players/Teams/Personal/Staff as I know of and I could be wrong and people have just made real Rosters and so on!

Okay for the last time then I will stop talking about MLB license Take Two can have the MLB License just for Video games and their should be a separt one for PC games meaning this game can have that one! Bottom line is that Take Two has the ONLY rights to make a baseball game referencing the MLB on the not PC platform but Video game platform - plain and simple because they haven't made any baseball games for the PC as I know of but if they want to help in making this game they could then their would be a MLB license in this game.

The sentence in bold print simply and actually is NOT true. It might be what you would like to see, but it is not what really happened.

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The anwser is yes these 2 will be in the game multi-team trades or waiver trades!

And where do you get this information?

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This what I mean about Minor League Relocation is like this Reds extend affiliation with Bats through '08,League approves Silver Hawks transfer,Seattle Mariners Vice President of Player Development & Scouting Benny Looper announced today that the Mariners have extended their working agreement with the Everett AquaSox of the short-season Class A Northwest League. The Player Development contract, which would have run out at the end of the 2006 season, has been extended to cover the 2007 and 2008 seasons and this story and http://www.minorleaguenews.com/baseb...090204.htmland I would like to see it happen in the game like that!

No one is arguing that might be a good idea, I'm simply saying I don't believe it will be in this version

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I would like computer control teams to rename teams if they want to meaning appear magically the new team and also letting us know in a News Aritcle or Press Release that this has happened!

Maybe some day - but not this version.

Malleus Dei · 02-12-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Take Two can have the MLB License just for Video games and their should be a separt one for PC games meaning this game can have that one!

You are living in fantasy land.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01...s_6116946.html

"'Take-Two will have exclusive rights among third-party publishers to develop and market simulation, arcade and manager-style baseball video games on the current and next-generation PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo, personal computer and hand-held video game systems,' read the statement."

And that's for seven years.

mgsports · 02-12-2006, 02:09 PM

I'm sorry I didn't know the whole story! Thread closed no more posting in this one for me!

disposableheros · 02-12-2006, 06:59 PM

hey Mal, do you know any way to get this guy to follow all the great guys we've lost on these forums?

<o> · 02-12-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mgsports

Then why has NBALIVE and NHL for EA Sports have had a real Players/Staff/Personal and Teams since they came out!

Huh?

EA has has the rights to make a licensed NBA or NHL game, just like Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Take Two, and anyone else who wants to purchase the use of the Licenses because those two leagues DO NOT HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE with any publishing company. Get it?

Malleus Dei · 02-13-2006, 12:06 AM

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hey Mal, do you know any way to get this guy to follow all the great guys we've lost on these forums?

LOL. Just have him keep reading all the pointless attacks that the Off Topic crowd keeps posting.

Astros33Resurrected · 02-13-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

LOL. Just have him keep reading all the pointless attacks that the Off Topic crowd keeps posting.

I take offense to this. As a member of the off-topic crowd, I have still managed to not insult you MD

eriqjaffe · 02-13-2006, 09:26 AM

Man, this was a funny thread. I feel really bad for BCB having to discuss things with that guy.

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02-11-2006, 09:32 AM	#1
mgsports Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 159	Need to know if will be in game Real Minor Leagues meaning Teams Names,Stadiums/Dome/Fields/Parks,real Players and Pitchers that aren't on a MLB 40 man roster,Real Personal and Staff? Relocation so let say we wanted to move the Marlins in let say 2015 to Las Vegas we could also goes for Minor League teams? Historical License so we can have like Babe Ruth,Tom Seaver,Lee Smith,Frank Howard,Dale Murphy,Luis Tiant and others in the game? Spring Training Non Roster Players and Pitchers,Split Squad games,Minor League Camp,games against College Teams and your minor league teams and Spring Training Stadiums/Domes and so on?

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02-11-2006, 02:20 PM	#4
mgsports Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 159	But that's only for Video games beacuse Take Two doesn't make any Baseball games for the PC so if the developers wanted to get a MLB TeamStadium/Dome/Players/Staff and Personal License it could for this game! Also MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball aren't made anymore! Know MVP Baseball didn't have MLB Players License so Jim Dowd was used as Barry Bond's name! Spring Training will have all the Bells and Whistle that I said! I meant is a Minor League License meaning no fake team names like Orlando Suns or Overland Park Jayhawks but like Iowa Cubs or Charlotte Knights or Springfield Cardinals and also no Fake Players and Pitchers names the names like the ones in 2006 Draft or drafted in 2005 drafted or going to start in Rookie Ball this year not on a 40 man roster and so on! MLB teams don't chenge their Minor League afflications ever just so over just when their contract runs out if they don't renew the release of it!

02-11-2006, 08:48 PM	#8
mgsports Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 159	Take Two was making baseball Video games when MVP Baseball and High Heat Baseball were still been made I think! So what's the difference with this PC Baseball game having a MLB License and MLB 06 or what ever Take Two is calling the next version having it to? NHL Eastside Hockey Manager-PC game has a NHL License and so does NHL 06 Video/PC game and also Total Pro Basketball-PC does as does NBALIVE 06-Video/PC game! A MLB team would apply for relocation if they can't get a new Stadium built like the Expos,Senators and did and also what the Marlins are doing if they can't find another place in Miami to build or if a team is sold to a new Owner and the new Owner want's to move that team! Minor League Relocation would be like St. Louis moved their Double-A team that was in Tennessee to Springfield,MO! Black Monday Can have 8 teams from each league in the Playoffs,Multi Team Trades,Wavier Trades will really happen and also can have Interleague play all year round!

02-12-2006, 11:22 AM	#11
mgsports Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 159	Then why has NBALIVE and NHL for EA Sports have had a real Players/Staff/Personal and Teams since they came out! Total Pro Basketball was shipped with real Players/Teams/Personal/Staff as I know of and I could be wrong and people have just made real Rosters and so on! Okay for the last time then I will stop talking about MLB license Take Two can have the MLB License just for Video games and their should be a separt one for PC games meaning this game can have that one! Bottom line is that Take Two has the ONLY rights to make a baseball game referencing the MLB on the not PC platform but Video game platform - plain and simple because they haven't made any baseball games for the PC as I know of but if they want to help in making this game they could then their would be a MLB license in this game. The anwser is yes these 2 will be in the game multi-team trades or waiver trades! This what I mean about Minor League Relocation is like this Reds extend affiliation with Bats through '08,League approves Silver Hawks transfer,Seattle Mariners Vice President of Player Development & Scouting Benny Looper announced today that the Mariners have extended their working agreement with the Everett AquaSox of the short-season Class A Northwest League. The Player Development contract, which would have run out at the end of the 2006 season, has been extended to cover the 2007 and 2008 seasons and this story and http://www.minorleaguenews.com/baseb...090204.htmland I would like to see it happen in the game like that! I would like computer control teams to rename teams if they want to meaning appear magically the new team and also letting us know in a News Aritcle or Press Release that this has happened!

02-12-2006, 02:09 PM	#14
mgsports Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 159	I'm sorry I didn't know the whole story! Thread closed no more posting in this one for me!