VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1964

[Matt from TN]

1936 Initial Ballot Results, 1937 Results, 1938 Results, 1939 Results, 1940 Results,
1941 Results, 1942 Results, 1943 Results, 1944 Results, 1945 Results,
1946 Results, 1947 Results, 1948 Results, 1949 Results, 1950 Results,
1951 Results, 1952 Results, 1953 Results, 1954 Results, 1955 Results,
1956 Results, 1957 Results, 1958 Results, 1959 Results, 1960 Results (lost in board crash)
1961 Results, 1962 Results, 1963 Results


Luke Appling was elected to the RL HOF by the BBWAA in 1963. The following players were elected by the VC: Red Faber, Burleigh Grimes, Tim Keefe, Heinie Manush, John Ward.

All players who received at least 5% of votes on the last ballot were retained for this ballot. I also added players who became eligible for the ballot in 1964 (retired after 1958 season).

All players not receiving 5% of votes on this ballot will be removed. Also, all players who have been retired for 20 years fall off this ballot if not elected.

Vote for as many or as few as you want. Max votes are 10.

HOF Standard: 50 is considered an average HOF'er. 100 is max.

PLEASE NOTE:
Players who lost service time to the war are denoted with: WWII

Note: OPS+ and ERA+ are listed for all players now. 100 is considered league average. The higher the # the better the player. This lets you see how they did in relation to the players of their generation while also letting you compare their dominance of the league to players from different eras.

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

189 - Woody Woodson
166 - Dark Horse Allen
163 - Jason Tedford
159 - Whitey Kohse
158 - Oscar Vancini
152 - Jed Burke
152 - Patrick Seifried
149 - Genaro Nunez
148 - Whiskey Allen
146 - Peaches Badeau
145 - Blake Crocitto
141 - Ben Baum
141 - Tee Carver
141 - Ogden Wing
140 - Bud Breckenridge
140 - John Falise
140 - Ray Brown
140 - Scott Podlasek
140 - Dale Lamberty
140 - Bobby Martin
139 - Dewey Mickelsen
139 - Tom Howard
138 - Tyrell Chestnut
137 - Kid Fite
137 - Will Miller
137 - Steven Bussell
136 - Harry Cohan
136 - Jared Jarry
135 - John Klehammer
135 - Jimmy Ditty
134 - Carl Kahle
133 - Slap Hertzog
133 - Flaky Arsenault
133 - Roy Hobbs
133 - Dave Arkless
132 - Adolf Greisbach
132 - John Schmieder
132 - Cookie Parrish
131 - Chuck Rauch
131 - Nick Graves
130 - Sunny Davie
129 - Tom Turley
129 - George Ward
129 - Ping Hung
129 - Herman Dunkel
127 - Campbell Ditty
127 - Troy Kinnear
126 - Bull Zegri
124 - Levi Walls
123 - Dale Reneau
123 - Alan Liao
122 - Sam Kass
122 - Sal Rossi
121 - Quenton Misisca
120 - Ervin Skjerly
118 - Gus Kahle
114 - Jonny Perly
114 - Jon Minzey
110 - David McAuliffe
102 - Harry Finley


Batters

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
AVG: .364
Hits: 4000
HR: 557
RBI: 1906
2B: 665
BB: 1962
R: 2004
SB: 1297



Ted Stuart, SS, Last Season: 1948, HOF Standard: 31
1800 H, 258 2B, 45 HR, 757 RBI, 797 R, 631 K, 547 BB, 31 SB, .296 AVG, .749 OPS
OPS+: 110
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 9
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE



Al Arsenault, LF, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 47
2359 H, 557 2B, 285 HR, 1458 RBI, 1341 R, 414 K, 941 BB, 129 SB, .287 AVG, .854 OPS
OPS+: 135
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: 2B 2, 3B 1, RBI 1
Career Top 25: HR (16), RBI (22), 2B (10)



Maurice Misisca, 3B, Last Season: 1950, HOF Standard: 34
1657 H, 214 2B, 233 HR, 944 RBI, 849 R, 453 K, 674 BB, 68 SB, .291 AVG, .835 OPS
OPS+: 137
BOY Award: 1943, 1944, 1946
ROY Award: 1931
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: OBP 2, SLG 2, OPS 1, HR 2, RBI 1
Career Top 25: NONE



Genarito Nunez, 3B, Last Season: 1954, HOF Standard: 49
2432 H, 425 2B, 144 HR, 1151 RBI, 1159 R, 554 K, 567 BB, 141 SB, .314 AVG, .816 OPS
WWII - 2 Yrs
OPS+: 127
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Hits 1, 2B 1
Career Top 25: NONE



Hershel Lee, C, Last Season: 1957, HOF Standard: 37
1105 H, 211 2B, 237 HR, 798 RBI, 665 R, 574 K, 536 BB, 4 SB, .276 AVG, .886 OPS
OPS+: 142
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1948
Gold Gloves: 3
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: Doubles 1
Career Top 25: NONE



Luther Ormiston, 3B, Last Season: 1956, HOF Standard: 38
1309 H, 262 2B, 281 HR, 1039 RBI, 888 R, 614 K, 886 BB, 27 SB, .273 AVG, .909 OPS
OPS+: 150
BOY Award: 1948, 1952
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 4
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: SLG 1, HR 2, RBI 4
Career Top 25: NONE


NEW



Emil Pelto, C, Last Season: 1957, HOF Standard: 40
2196 H, 316 2B, 106 HR, 871 RBI, 915 R, 530 K, 541 BB, 10 SB, .305 AVG, .754 OPS
OPS+: 111
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 1
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE



Lonny Arrendale, 1B, Last Season: 1958, HOF Standard: 38
2063 H, 238 2B, 324 HR, 1148 RBI, 1050 R, 914 K, 979 BB, 11 SB, .306 AVG, .888 OPS
OPS+: 147
BOY Award: 1949
ROY Award: 1944
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 3
WS Victories: 2
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: HR (24)



Chris Anderson, 3B, Last Season: 1958, HOF Standard: 27
1797 H, 334 2B, 214 HR, 969 RBI, 839 R, 689 K, 574 BB, 18 SB, .272 AVG, .757 OPS
OPS+: 108
BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 2
Pennants: 1
WS Victories: NONE
Batting Titles: NONE
Led League in: NONE
Career Top 25: NONE





Pitchers

Current Career Leaders (Click to View Entire List):
ERA: 2.10
W: 446
K: 3407
CG: 601
SHO: 95

Here's all HOF'er OPS+ for reference:

210 - Andrew Murphy
163 - Frank Smith
162 - Tim Lopresto
161 - Raymond Gindler
158 - Allen Albertini
157 - Jethro Lee
157 - Cecil Tan
145 - Punchy Cote
145 - Howard Adams
144 - Johnny Cakes Sutton
142 - Cotton Simson
138 - Dave McBean
137 - Mark Krosser
137 - Johnny Swinson
136 - Bowie Castellon
134 - Otto Kahle
134 - Scott Fenner
133 - Jassen Nelson
131 - Remmy Paul
131 - Luke Riley
131 - Tobe Palmer
129 - David Wiskersham
124 - Bourbon Allen
124 - Art Booth
121 - Ahrend Nagel
120 - Terry Schukraft
115 - Mark Ponfick



Corky Stell, Last Season: 1956, HOF Standard: 26
163-108, 60.2%, 3.30 ERA, 15 SV, 2409 IP, 820 BB, 986 K, 30 CG, 8 SHO, 1.27 WHIP
ERA+: 131
POY Award: 1949, 1952, 1953
ROY Award: NONE
Pennants: 4
WS Victories: 4
No-Hitters: NONE
Led League in: ERA 2, WHIP 1, Wins 2
Career Top 25: NONE

[canadiancreed]

there's only one pitcher on the docket?

[BPS]

Hershel Lee
Ted Stuart

[canadiancreed]

this is probably the thinest HOF ballot yet. Did we lose a lot of folks or something?

[Matt from TN]

4 got elected & Bowden went to the VC. Two newbies fell off, but a few of them do every year. Basically we've done a good job of getting most people in who need it.

Like the RL HOF, which has a thin ballot this year, this is a chance for near-miss TWB'ers to get in. Next year's ballot is huge.

[MogulChamp]

Yuck. If Bowden doesn't get in, Stuart certainly doesnt.

No votes for me.

[metsgeek]

Jeez.... smallest ballot ever for me

Arsenault
Arrendale
Nunez

[gambler]

Genarito Nunez

[canadiancreed]

indeed. I think this is my first non full ballot. Even some of the guys that are on this list are getting on there for non-stat related qualities

Ted Staurt
Al Arsenault
Maurice MIsisca
Genarito Nunez
Luther Ormiston
Emil Pelto
Lonny Arrendale
Corky Stell

[Vris]

Arsenault
Lee
Ormiston

Wow.

[Big Six]

Stuart
Arsenault
Lee
Pelto
Arrendale
Ormiston

[MogulChamp]

I guess I am a little more stingy with my votes than some of you. IMO the Hall should be the best of the best at their positions.

[ifspuds]

Stuart
Lee
Arrendale

[Y0DA55]

Originally Posted by MogulChamp

I guess I am a little more stingy with my votes than some of you. IMO the Hall should be the best of the best at their positions.

To each his own.


Arsenault
Misisca
Nunez
Ormiston
Arrendale

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by MogulChamp

I guess I am a little more stingy with my votes than some of you. IMO the Hall should be the best of the best at their positions.

well I will explain mine:

Ted Staurt - the premier glove of the 40's at SS. Ask JT, he'll pimp this guy for hours. His bat was average, but then again so was Ozzie Smith's
Al Arsenault - good solid guy for almost twenty years. Has the totals to squeak in
Maurice MIsisca - The cornerstone of the phillies rise to power in the 40's, this is one of the guys you didn't want to see. I know this name was cursed many times in Cincy
Genarito Nunez - look at the stats, if the war wasnt' on he'd be a 3000 hit man.
Luther Ormiston - Misisca for the Detroit Tigers, Made up one of the most potent offenses in TWB history in the 50's as part of the Tiger juggarnaunt
Emil Pelto - You coudl give a case for this guy being borderline, but I always though he was decent. And he made my acquisition of Betters so much easier
Lonny Arrendale - The heart of the Phillie offense in the late 40's. How I both admired, and loathed this guy. He even went to Chicago and got them a pennant in 1950.
Corky Stell - The staff ace in Chicago, then went to be the #1 in Detroit during their magical run, noting win after win like a machine during his tendure there. Many teams hated to see Stell, Andrews, and Ulrich as the pitchers that they were facing...........oh.....and he stopped in Cincy for a year too.

[DamnYankees]

Stuart
Lee
Ormiston
Arrendale

[tward13]

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

well I will explain mine:

Genarito Nunez - look at the stats, if the war wasnt' on he'd be a 3000 hit man.

Not unless he was going to get 568 hits in two years. Considering he got 154 the year before he left and 180 the year he returned, he was likely to still be over 200 hits short.

[fvamos]

stuart
nunez
arrendale

[tward13]

I'm casting a vote for:

No one.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by tward13

Not unless he was going to get 568 hits in two years. Considering he got 154 the year before he left and 180 the year he returned, he was likely to still be over 200 hits short.

dammit I read that as 2932....

well at least i'd be 2500 hits then, still nto that bad