Negotiating Contract Extensions

arlo53z · 12-15-2005, 10:44 AM

I don't always get to see everything on the boards here because I usually only come here when I have a problem and I don't have that many.

What I cannot understand, from either my role as a member of leagues or my role as commissioner of a league, is why individual team GMs cannot negotiate their own contract extensions. This is not "league business" but "team business" As commissioner, I don't like all of the extra work it causes me. As a team owner it just prolongs the issue by having to include a third party (where I could otherwise do it in a couple of minutes at most).

I figure that there are 2 possibilities for this: (1) someone thought that it was a good idea and it was designed to guard against something I cannot figure out; or (2) the program just can't be made to do this.

Even worse is the Coach/Scout area, which I have given up on completely.

Cheers,

Arlo

Viva Los Expos · 12-15-2005, 12:03 PM

Allowing GMs to do their own contract extensions would make it a pointless feature. There's no way (other than the honor system, I guess) to stop an owner from doing the following:

1. Download and unzip league file
2. Negotiate using hardball tactics
3. If player breaks off negotiations, "turn back time" by re-unzipping.
4. Repeat 2 and 3, making marginally better offers each time, until you've discovered the minimum amount for which a player will sign.

It reminds me of previous versions of Madden football (it might be in the current version, too, I haven't played it): players never broke off negotiations, so the obvious exploit was to offer the lowest possible amount and then increase it by tiny amounts until the player accepted. It made the whole process pointless; they should have just had the player tell you his bottom-line, non-negotiable demand.

arlo53z · 12-15-2005, 05:22 PM

I guess if I had a devious mind I would have thought of that - wow some people must really have a lot of time on their hands to do what you describe!

In any event, I appreciate knowing why this is so. Thanks Viva Los Expos.

Cheers,

Arlo

jm47048 · 12-16-2005, 08:34 PM

I like this approach

Baggs · 04-20-2006, 01:08 PM

In our league, to minimize franchises locking up all their players forever, we have a max of 5 players that can be offered extensions, and we can only make a maximum of 3 offers to him.

Speaking of extensions, hopefully someone can answer my question.
Does anyone know if it impacts the chances to re-sign a guy to an extension if he's been demoted to the minor leagues?

sfgiants88 · 04-21-2006, 05:56 PM

I don't think that chances become that different, although if he is rated poor enough to be deserving of the minor leagues, you can probably re-sign him for cheap. Keep in mind that some players complain about not enough playing time though.

12-15-2005, 10:44 AM	#1
arlo53z Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 16	Negotiating Contract Extensions I don't always get to see everything on the boards here because I usually only come here when I have a problem and I don't have that many. What I cannot understand, from either my role as a member of leagues or my role as commissioner of a league, is why individual team GMs cannot negotiate their own contract extensions. This is not "league business" but "team business" As commissioner, I don't like all of the extra work it causes me. As a team owner it just prolongs the issue by having to include a third party (where I could otherwise do it in a couple of minutes at most). I figure that there are 2 possibilities for this: (1) someone thought that it was a good idea and it was designed to guard against something I cannot figure out; or (2) the program just can't be made to do this. Even worse is the Coach/Scout area, which I have given up on completely. Cheers, Arlo

12-15-2005, 12:03 PM	#2
Viva Los Expos Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 67	Allowing GMs to do their own contract extensions would make it a pointless feature. There's no way (other than the honor system, I guess) to stop an owner from doing the following: 1. Download and unzip league file 2. Negotiate using hardball tactics 3. If player breaks off negotiations, "turn back time" by re-unzipping. 4. Repeat 2 and 3, making marginally better offers each time, until you've discovered the minimum amount for which a player will sign. It reminds me of previous versions of Madden football (it might be in the current version, too, I haven't played it): players never broke off negotiations, so the obvious exploit was to offer the lowest possible amount and then increase it by tiny amounts until the player accepted. It made the whole process pointless; they should have just had the player tell you his bottom-line, non-negotiable demand. __________________ Commish/Cleveland Spiders GM, New Federal Baseball League http://www.newfederalbaseballleague.com

12-15-2005, 05:22 PM	#3
arlo53z Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 16	Thanks I guess if I had a devious mind I would have thought of that - wow some people must really have a lot of time on their hands to do what you describe! In any event, I appreciate knowing why this is so. Thanks Viva Los Expos. Cheers, Arlo

12-16-2005, 08:34 PM	#4
jm47048 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,247	I like this approach __________________ The New York Yankees World Series Champions 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2009 American League Champions 1921, 1922, 1923, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2009, 2024

04-20-2006, 01:08 PM	#5
Baggs Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15	In our league, to minimize franchises locking up all their players forever, we have a max of 5 players that can be offered extensions, and we can only make a maximum of 3 offers to him. Speaking of extensions, hopefully someone can answer my question. Does anyone know if it impacts the chances to re-sign a guy to an extension if he's been demoted to the minor leagues?

04-21-2006, 05:56 PM	#6
sfgiants88 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 885	I don't think that chances become that different, although if he is rated poor enough to be deserving of the minor leagues, you can probably re-sign him for cheap. Keep in mind that some players complain about not enough playing time though.