New ArodGarlon DB's Available

Garlon · 10-21-2005, 09:14 AM

Arod23 and I just finished putting the finishing touches on 2 new DB's. There is a regular version and a career average version of the DB. They are at the bottom of the page and are called Arod23/Garlon Regular DB and Arod23/Garlon Career Average DB. When you unzip the folder, the DB folder may be inside the unzip folder...if so, just drag the folder with the DB out of this folder and you will be good to go.

Get it here:

OOTP DB Downloads

Here is the readme listing our changes and updates to the DB:

This database was created using AnkitDB5 as a base. Ankit's readme files have been included as well. Special thanks to Ankit for helping us with the programming code to create this new DB.

Like Ankit's DBs, it is suggested that you use the regular version of the DB to import your initial season when starting a league, then use the Career Average DB for importing all rookies in subsequent seasons.

Here is a list of changes we have made to the DB.

1. All Union Association players from 1884 have been deleted except a few who went on to have a legitimate career in the real major leagues. Those players are: Jersey Blakely, Tommy Bond, George Bradley, One Arm Dailey, Buttercup Dickerson, Fred Dunlap, Charlie Ganzel, Jack Glasscock, Jack Gleason, Jim McCormick, Dave Rowe, Orator Shaffer, Charlie Sweeney, and Billy Taylor. These are the 14 players Bill James considers legitimate major leaguers from the Union association in "The New Baseball Historical Abstract" pg 29.

2. Added birthdays for all players missing them. This mostly affects pre-1900 players. These players now debut at age 22.

3. Updated the database to include 2003 and 2004 statistics for all active players and added new players debuting in 2003 and 2004.

4. Added outfielding stats from 1995-2002 which were missing from the original Lahman DB.

5. Modified all player stats during WWII 1942-1945 to an average of the four years before and after the war (1938-1941 and 1946-1949). This was done to account for the fact that in OOTP players do not miss seasons due to military service, nor do we want them to. Any players who missed seasons between 1942-1945 due to military service have had pro-rated seasons put back into their careers based on an average of how they performed between 1938-1949, including any modified years between 1942-1945 in which they did play.

6. Extended the careers of Jackie Robinson, Larry Doby, Monte Irvin, Roy Campanella, Minnie Minoso, and Luke Easter so that they now debut at age 21. Their missing seasons were based on their career average through 1949 when possible, otherwise the player's career average was used to replace his missing seasons. This was done because these players did not have a chance for a full major league career due to segregation in baseball.

7. Warren Spahn debut year has been changed to 1943 since he missed 1943-1945 due to military service. Babe Ruth, the hitter, now debuts in 1916 instead of 1918.

8. The Career Average version of the DB is much like Ankit's, except that in this DB career totals were divided by seasons played, rather than career totals divided by season entries (which can be more than the number of years played for players who were traded during a season). This results in somewhat more accurate totals for players.

9. Added 25 Negro League Players to the DB, plus Satchel Paige who only played a couple seasons in the major leagues. These players are clones of actual major league players who they have been compared to. These players all debut at age 21 and have been given 15-year careers in the DB. Listed are the players, their database id, their debut year, and the player they were cloned from. They are:

Josh Gibson, gibsojo09, 1933, Jimmie Foxx
Buck Leonard, leonabu09, 1929, Johnny Mize
Bingo DeMoss, demosbi09, 1911, Johnny Evers
Ray Dandridge, dandrra09, 1935, George Kell
Pop Lloyd, lloydpo09, 1906, Honus Wagner
Turkey Stearnes, steartu09, 1923, Chuck Klein
Oscar Charleston, charlos09, 1918, Tris Speaker
Martin Dihigo, dihigma09, 1927, Pete Rose
Biz Mackey, mackebi09, 1919, Mickey Cochrane
Buck O'Neil, oneilbu09, 1933, Mark Grace
Judy Johnson, johnsju09, 1921, Pie Traynor
Willie Wells, wellswi09, 1927, Arkie Vaughan
Mule Suttles, suttlmu09, 1922, Ralph Kiner
Cristobal Torriente, torricr09, 1933, Roberto Clemente
Cool Papa Bell, bellco09, 1925, Lou Brock
Newt Allen, allenne09, 1923, Frankie Frisch
Hilton Smith, smithhi09, 1933, Dizzy Dean
Rube Foster, fosteru09, 1901, Lefty Gomez
Bill Foster, fostebi09, 1926, Herb Pennock
Smokey Joe Williams, willism09, 1907, Rube Waddell
Bullet Joe Rogan, roganbu09, 1911, Dazzy Vance
Chet Brewer, brewech09, 1928, Bob Feller
Leon Day, dayle09, 1938, Hal Newhouser
Ray Brown, brownra09, 1929, Ted Lyons
Andy Cooper, coopean09, 1918, George Ruth
Satchel Paige, paigesa09, 1928, custom

10. Also included is a custom MLBactuals.txt file made for iatric's Era Calculator when using this DB since it has adjusted totals to account for the addition of the Negro League Players and the extended careers of other players. This is for use with Iatric's Era Calculator program, just replace the original MLBactuals.txt file in the Era calculator folder with this one.
For those who want to start a league before 1900, there is also a file called MLBActualsplus100.txt. This file has 100 years added to the actual year of all seasons, for example 1876 is now listed as 1976 and 2001 is now 2101. This is done as a work-around since the Era Calculator will not allow you to start a league before 1901. OOTP also does not allow you to directly start a league before 1901, but you can start a custom league in 1875,then play thru the season and delete all players, then when you move to 1876 OOTP will prompt you for the DB to import rookies (use the reg DB for importing rookies in 1876 if you plan to do this, and then use the Career AVG version for all subsequent seasons). Note, the Era Calculator does not have any initialization ratings after 1950, so what you will need to do is edit the initratings file in the Era calculator folder and manually input the totals for the year 1976 (which will actually be 1876). So for example, when you are playing OOTP the year might be 1883 in your league, but 1983 in the Era Calculator, but the actual totals the calculator will be working with are the ones from 1883.
A starter 1876 file with instructions will also be made available.

Created by Arod23, Garlon, and Ankit of the OOTP message board forums.

rem · 10-21-2005, 08:42 PM

Awesome! I can't wait to get into it, thanks a lot!

khucke · 10-22-2005, 05:05 PM

Great effort!
Btw, which settings do you recommend on the CREATE HISTORICAL LEAGUE screen?

arod23 · 10-24-2005, 10:39 PM

Talent based on remaining career
Fielding based on entire career

coolbeans59 · 10-28-2005, 11:30 PM

I REALLY like the file ....
2 things:
1) When I opened the file and couldn't view the whole batter file ... I wanted to add some more Negro leaguers and figure out what was going on with Charlie Mason ...
2) When I started a 1876 league, Charlie Mason was imported and was imported as a potential UBER-star ... in a few years he rated as a 100 contact hitter. Pretty impressive for a player with these career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/masonch01.shtml)

arod23 · 10-29-2005, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolbeans59

I REALLY like the file ....
2 things:
1) When I opened the file and couldn't view the whole batter file ... I wanted to add some more Negro leaguers and figure out what was going on with Charlie Mason ...
2) When I started a 1876 league, Charlie Mason was imported and was imported as a potential UBER-star ... in a few years he rated as a 100 contact hitter. Pretty impressive for a player with these career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/masonch01.shtml)

The batting file is large, so Excel won't be able to open all of it, but Access can.

I just checked the batting and pitching files and Charlie Mason does not appear. He does show up in the Master file, which is mistake. Some players with very short careers were purged from the DB to improve importing time. Mason's record should not have appeared. Without matching batting files, OOTP randomly assigns ratings, which is why he was a "star" for you.

It is difficult to test pre1901 in OOTP, so some players may have slipped through the cracks. Let us know if you find any other issues like this.

coolbeans59 · 10-29-2005, 12:30 PM

thanx for the reply and will do

Doughnuts? · 10-31-2005, 05:49 PM

Been using your database for a replay from 1903. Did you tweak Ankits ratings at all for players like Cobb, Walter Johnson etc? I know its a career avg., but I used ankits in the past and maybe its my imagination but your ratings seem higher in the players rookie year, higher even than ankits.

arod23 · 10-31-2005, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

Been using your database for a replay from 1903. Did you tweak Ankits ratings at all for players like Cobb, Walter Johnson etc? I know its a career avg., but I used ankits in the past and maybe its my imagination but your ratings seem higher in the players rookie year, higher even than ankits.

The only players "tweaked" were some players during the war years, by pro-rating their statistics. Some other players' career averages will be different because the career averages were based on their career totals divided by the seasons played. Lahman has a separate stat line for each team when players changed clubs during a season, so in Ankit's original database he inadvertantly divided by the number of stat lines rather than seasons. The differences between the two are very minor, e.g, dividing by 16 instead of 17. This would not affect Cobb or Johnson. This DB is based on Ankit's version 5 DB. Ankit's 5.2 version IS different because he adjusted all players (see his readme) and then recalculated the stat lines per 500 ABs or 250 IPs

Doughnuts? · 10-31-2005, 07:55 PM

thanks for the response. I'm enjoying the database. Thanks for your efforts.

jf7623 · 11-05-2005, 05:17 AM

where can we get Iatric's Era calculator from? Thanks

Eugene Church · 11-10-2005, 01:41 AM

arod23, do you use these databases in the same way that the Ankit and Lahmen databases are used?

I downloaded your normalized database...unzipped it to my C drive...then tried to import players from it on the Free Agents page into one of my current leagues.

I got a message saying it could not find the database.

What am I doing wrong?

arod23 · 11-10-2005, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

arod23, do you use these databases in the same way that the Ankit and Lahmen databases are used?

I downloaded your normalized database...unzipped it to my C drive...then tried to import players from it on the Free Agents page into one of my current leagues.

I got a message saying it could not find the database.

What am I doing wrong?

No, the normalized DB is not like the others, it is actual a lg file. (The other files are csv files used for importing). Because it was a limited number of players (several 100 though), we created the lg file so we could adjust defensive ratings and L/R splits. Just unzip the directory into your OOTP directory. We put in team names, neutral park, and a schedule, but you can obviously change the league format to your liking. Then, start your fantasy draft. Keep in mind that you can't have a large league since you could run out of players. You won't have any "scrubs" to fill out your rosters.

Eugene Church · 11-10-2005, 03:07 PM

arod23, thanks for the quick response...and thanks to Garlon and you for creating this league. Both of you are valuable members of our community.

I don't want to be Korinthinkacker (nitpicker) as I know we will not all agree totally on historical player ratings, but I would be interested to know why you rated several players as you did.

I went in and checked some of your ratings in the normalized database and I noticed quite a few power pitchers that were rated as 6 in velocity...Walter Johnson, Smokey Joe Wood and Rube Waddell were the ones I noticed. It has always been my impression that they would be 9's. This opinion is based on research that I have come across in my study of baseball talents.

I also noticed that modern pitchers seem to have much higher ratings in stuff, when compared to pitchers of earlier eras, especially the Deadballers.

Your comments would be appreciated.

arod23 · 11-10-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

I went in and checked some of your ratings in the normalized database and I noticed quite a few power pitchers that were rated as 6 in velocity...Walter Johnson, Smokey Joe Wood and Rube Waddell were the ones I noticed. It has always been my impression that they would be 9's. This opinion is based on research that I have come across in my study of baseball talents.

I also noticed that modern pitchers seem to have much higher ratings in stuff, when compared to pitchers of earlier eras, especially the Deadballers.

We didn't modify any velocity ratings. I would expected those guys to come in higher too. I don't believe velocity has any statistical effect in OOTP, so I'm not sure it matters, except who would expect The Big Train to throw sub-90. We also didn't adjust any of the imported ratings except for defense, so the stuff ratings are reflective of their imported stat lines.

Keep in mind that the stat lines are normalized over the history of baseball, so some of our pre-conceived notions as to how great someone is, may not be correct. Modern pitchers especially, given how high scoring an era today's game is, stack up very well against their deadball counterparts. Clemens relative dominance in modern baseball is no different than Walter Johnson's in his day. I was surprised at some of the players too, but if you check the era and the relative competition, the results will make more sense. There are several 1960s players who had fairly non-exciting statistical lines, but really performed quite well relative to their peers...but they are not much of a blip in history. The mid to late 60s was an incredible time to be a pitcher.

Check the readme file as it provides more detail. Also, check out this site for comparing players "tranlsated" statistics: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/ruthba01.shtml You can just enter player's name in the input box.

plannine · 11-12-2005, 07:15 PM

Love the database!!! It;s coming up with some well balanced careers - only a few players are getting out-of-wack stats. I've been adjusting the league file every 5th year (and making it just to get the 'league leader' in a few catagorys close to actual). Since Im using fictional ballparks (and in some cases teams), Im not trying re-create baseball history.......i'm creating my own.

**Added Note - I am using OOTP5 - I find it better for historical leagues then 6.5**

(see totals in a later post)

gocubsgo · 11-13-2005, 02:30 AM

Okay i am test running a 1969 league. I imported real rookies from this DB and the players ratings are awfull there are only 2 or 3 four star propects and guys like Thurman Munson Dave Concepcion and others are 1 star prospects. Any idea how i can get more realistic rookies for my drafts?

arod23 · 11-13-2005, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Okay i am test running a 1969 league. I imported real rookies from this DB and the players ratings are awfull there are only 2 or 3 four star propects and guys like Thurman Munson Dave Concepcion and others are 1 star prospects. Any idea how i can get more realistic rookies for my drafts?

Well, I don't think you are using this DB because Munson and Concepcion don't import until 1970. Their debut year was 1969 but since they had so few at bats we have them debut in the year when they really began playing. Otherwise, you would get incredibly low ratings and players would never develop, which is what you found. My guess is you used the Lahman DB. Ankit's DB and subsequently ours was created to avoid such problems with historical sims. Most players had few games when they debut, so OOTP ratings are so low that it is unlikely you or the AI would give them any playing time to develop into full timers.

Just to check, I started a 1969 league using our DB and all of the ratings seem appropriate so it is not this DB.

gocubsgo · 11-13-2005, 01:51 PM

No it definitely is your database. I was talking about the draft in 1970, sorry. The best contact guy is Bob Watson with a 63, the best power guys is Bob Robertson with a 68. The top pitcher is Bert Blyleven with talent levels of 57, 70 and 67. Maybe i am expecting to much for the rookie class. Obviously there arent any superstuds that year in real life but there were some solid guys.

arod23 · 11-13-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

No it definitely is your database. I was talking about the draft in 1970, sorry. The best contact guy is Bob Watson with a 63, the best power guys is Bob Robertson with a 68. The top pitcher is Bert Blyleven with talent levels of 57, 70 and 67. Maybe i am expecting to much for the rookie class. Obviously there arent any superstuds that year in real life but there were some solid guys.

The early 70s was a relatively poor hitting era, so that is about all you can expect. If you set talent to career or peak you should see better ratings, but for the import year, I wouldn't expect too much. What you are seeing is definitely not a function of the DB, just reality for that time period. Our stats are taken from Lahman's DB, the only adjustments are to players' debut years and the war years.

10-21-2005, 09:14 AM	#1
Garlon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,367	New ArodGarlon DB's Available Arod23 and I just finished putting the finishing touches on 2 new DB's. There is a regular version and a career average version of the DB. They are at the bottom of the page and are called Arod23/Garlon Regular DB and Arod23/Garlon Career Average DB. When you unzip the folder, the DB folder may be inside the unzip folder...if so, just drag the folder with the DB out of this folder and you will be good to go. Get it here: OOTP DB Downloads Here is the readme listing our changes and updates to the DB: This database was created using AnkitDB5 as a base. Ankit's readme files have been included as well. Special thanks to Ankit for helping us with the programming code to create this new DB. Like Ankit's DBs, it is suggested that you use the regular version of the DB to import your initial season when starting a league, then use the Career Average DB for importing all rookies in subsequent seasons. Here is a list of changes we have made to the DB. 1. All Union Association players from 1884 have been deleted except a few who went on to have a legitimate career in the real major leagues. Those players are: Jersey Blakely, Tommy Bond, George Bradley, One Arm Dailey, Buttercup Dickerson, Fred Dunlap, Charlie Ganzel, Jack Glasscock, Jack Gleason, Jim McCormick, Dave Rowe, Orator Shaffer, Charlie Sweeney, and Billy Taylor. These are the 14 players Bill James considers legitimate major leaguers from the Union association in "The New Baseball Historical Abstract" pg 29. 2. Added birthdays for all players missing them. This mostly affects pre-1900 players. These players now debut at age 22. 3. Updated the database to include 2003 and 2004 statistics for all active players and added new players debuting in 2003 and 2004. 4. Added outfielding stats from 1995-2002 which were missing from the original Lahman DB. 5. Modified all player stats during WWII 1942-1945 to an average of the four years before and after the war (1938-1941 and 1946-1949). This was done to account for the fact that in OOTP players do not miss seasons due to military service, nor do we want them to. Any players who missed seasons between 1942-1945 due to military service have had pro-rated seasons put back into their careers based on an average of how they performed between 1938-1949, including any modified years between 1942-1945 in which they did play. 6. Extended the careers of Jackie Robinson, Larry Doby, Monte Irvin, Roy Campanella, Minnie Minoso, and Luke Easter so that they now debut at age 21. Their missing seasons were based on their career average through 1949 when possible, otherwise the player's career average was used to replace his missing seasons. This was done because these players did not have a chance for a full major league career due to segregation in baseball. 7. Warren Spahn debut year has been changed to 1943 since he missed 1943-1945 due to military service. Babe Ruth, the hitter, now debuts in 1916 instead of 1918. 8. The Career Average version of the DB is much like Ankit's, except that in this DB career totals were divided by seasons played, rather than career totals divided by season entries (which can be more than the number of years played for players who were traded during a season). This results in somewhat more accurate totals for players. 9. Added 25 Negro League Players to the DB, plus Satchel Paige who only played a couple seasons in the major leagues. These players are clones of actual major league players who they have been compared to. These players all debut at age 21 and have been given 15-year careers in the DB. Listed are the players, their database id, their debut year, and the player they were cloned from. They are: Josh Gibson, gibsojo09, 1933, Jimmie Foxx Buck Leonard, leonabu09, 1929, Johnny Mize Bingo DeMoss, demosbi09, 1911, Johnny Evers Ray Dandridge, dandrra09, 1935, George Kell Pop Lloyd, lloydpo09, 1906, Honus Wagner Turkey Stearnes, steartu09, 1923, Chuck Klein Oscar Charleston, charlos09, 1918, Tris Speaker Martin Dihigo, dihigma09, 1927, Pete Rose Biz Mackey, mackebi09, 1919, Mickey Cochrane Buck O'Neil, oneilbu09, 1933, Mark Grace Judy Johnson, johnsju09, 1921, Pie Traynor Willie Wells, wellswi09, 1927, Arkie Vaughan Mule Suttles, suttlmu09, 1922, Ralph Kiner Cristobal Torriente, torricr09, 1933, Roberto Clemente Cool Papa Bell, bellco09, 1925, Lou Brock Newt Allen, allenne09, 1923, Frankie Frisch Hilton Smith, smithhi09, 1933, Dizzy Dean Rube Foster, fosteru09, 1901, Lefty Gomez Bill Foster, fostebi09, 1926, Herb Pennock Smokey Joe Williams, willism09, 1907, Rube Waddell Bullet Joe Rogan, roganbu09, 1911, Dazzy Vance Chet Brewer, brewech09, 1928, Bob Feller Leon Day, dayle09, 1938, Hal Newhouser Ray Brown, brownra09, 1929, Ted Lyons Andy Cooper, coopean09, 1918, George Ruth Satchel Paige, paigesa09, 1928, custom 10. Also included is a custom MLBactuals.txt file made for iatric's Era Calculator when using this DB since it has adjusted totals to account for the addition of the Negro League Players and the extended careers of other players. This is for use with Iatric's Era Calculator program, just replace the original MLBactuals.txt file in the Era calculator folder with this one. For those who want to start a league before 1900, there is also a file called MLBActualsplus100.txt. This file has 100 years added to the actual year of all seasons, for example 1876 is now listed as 1976 and 2001 is now 2101. This is done as a work-around since the Era Calculator will not allow you to start a league before 1901. OOTP also does not allow you to directly start a league before 1901, but you can start a custom league in 1875,then play thru the season and delete all players, then when you move to 1876 OOTP will prompt you for the DB to import rookies (use the reg DB for importing rookies in 1876 if you plan to do this, and then use the Career AVG version for all subsequent seasons). Note, the Era Calculator does not have any initialization ratings after 1950, so what you will need to do is edit the initratings file in the Era calculator folder and manually input the totals for the year 1976 (which will actually be 1876). So for example, when you are playing OOTP the year might be 1883 in your league, but 1983 in the Era Calculator, but the actual totals the calculator will be working with are the ones from 1883. A starter 1876 file with instructions will also be made available. Created by Arod23, Garlon, and Ankit of the OOTP message board forums.

10-21-2005, 08:42 PM	#2
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Awesome! I can't wait to get into it, thanks a lot! __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

11-10-2005, 03:07 PM	#14
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,205	arod23, thanks for the quick response...and thanks to Garlon and you for creating this league. Both of you are valuable members of our community. I don't want to be Korinthinkacker (nitpicker) as I know we will not all agree totally on historical player ratings, but I would be interested to know why you rated several players as you did. I went in and checked some of your ratings in the normalized database and I noticed quite a few power pitchers that were rated as 6 in velocity...Walter Johnson, Smokey Joe Wood and Rube Waddell were the ones I noticed. It has always been my impression that they would be 9's. This opinion is based on research that I have come across in my study of baseball talents. I also noticed that modern pitchers seem to have much higher ratings in stuff, when compared to pitchers of earlier eras, especially the Deadballers. Your comments would be appreciated. Last edited by Eugene Church; 11-10-2005 at 03:09 PM.

11-12-2005, 07:15 PM	#16
plannine All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 572	Love the database!!! It;s coming up with some well balanced careers - only a few players are getting out-of-wack stats. I've been adjusting the league file every 5th year (and making it just to get the 'league leader' in a few catagorys close to actual). Since Im using fictional ballparks (and in some cases teams), Im not trying re-create baseball history.......i'm creating my own. Added Note - I am using OOTP5 - I find it better for historical leagues then 6.5 (see totals in a later post) Last edited by plannine; 11-23-2005 at 05:54 PM.

10-22-2005, 05:05 PM	#3
khucke All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany Posts: 657	Great effort! Btw, which settings do you recommend on the CREATE HISTORICAL LEAGUE screen?

10-24-2005, 10:39 PM	#4
arod23 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 378	Talent based on remaining career Fielding based on entire career

10-28-2005, 11:30 PM	#5
coolbeans59 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	I REALLY like the file .... 2 things: 1) When I opened the file and couldn't view the whole batter file ... I wanted to add some more Negro leaguers and figure out what was going on with Charlie Mason ... 2) When I started a 1876 league, Charlie Mason was imported and was imported as a potential UBER-star ... in a few years he rated as a 100 contact hitter. Pretty impressive for a player with these career stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/masonch01.shtml)

10-29-2005, 12:30 PM	#7
coolbeans59 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	thanx for the reply and will do

10-31-2005, 05:49 PM	#8
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	Been using your database for a replay from 1903. Did you tweak Ankits ratings at all for players like Cobb, Walter Johnson etc? I know its a career avg., but I used ankits in the past and maybe its my imagination but your ratings seem higher in the players rookie year, higher even than ankits.

10-31-2005, 07:55 PM	#10
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	thanks for the response. I'm enjoying the database. Thanks for your efforts.

11-05-2005, 05:17 AM	#11
jf7623 Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 713 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	where can we get Iatric's Era calculator from? Thanks

11-10-2005, 01:41 AM	#12
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,205	arod23, do you use these databases in the same way that the Ankit and Lahmen databases are used? I downloaded your normalized database...unzipped it to my C drive...then tried to import players from it on the Free Agents page into one of my current leagues. I got a message saying it could not find the database. What am I doing wrong?

11-13-2005, 02:30 AM	#17
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Okay i am test running a 1969 league. I imported real rookies from this DB and the players ratings are awfull there are only 2 or 3 four star propects and guys like Thurman Munson Dave Concepcion and others are 1 star prospects. Any idea how i can get more realistic rookies for my drafts?

11-13-2005, 01:51 PM	#19
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	No it definitely is your database. I was talking about the draft in 1970, sorry. The best contact guy is Bob Watson with a 63, the best power guys is Bob Robertson with a 68. The top pitcher is Bert Blyleven with talent levels of 57, 70 and 67. Maybe i am expecting to much for the rookie class. Obviously there arent any superstuds that year in real life but there were some solid guys.