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koohead · 07-31-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dl5175

Did that had problems with walk stats and retired players showing up in league leaders.

Well, I was able to try both methods this weekend. Fictionalizing the players does cause the walk and shutout problem. Not sure why. I even adjusted the league totals once and it didn't help, and changed the modifier to 4.000 and it didn't help either.

So...I released and deleted all free agents, and then filled with fictional, but I ended up with a bunch of people who were only qualified for Single A...not MLB type people.

Tekneek · 07-31-2006, 07:41 PM

I have been trying this today and after evening out the number of teams in each league to avoid those errors, as well as the number of games, I get stuck at 88% complete generating the schedule. If I delete the NCAA, it will complete. With everything even, and no errors, why does the NCAA completely hang up the game? I've fixed everything to supposedly follow what OOTP2006 is supposed to be able to handle, yet it still craps out.

ricobrown · 07-31-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by darkenigma510

Yes, but there is a real roster set that is "attached" with this template that cannot be undone. Well, you can "fictionalize" the players but there are still issues with how the players are created because 6.5 imports still don't work well.

I guess what you could do is release everyone to free agency, delete them all, the fill teams with fictional characters.

well actually you can undo the mlb thats included, just delete all the minors and majors that are in the template and use the majors thats included with the game, you will have to change the team names but thats it.

No Pepper · 08-07-2006, 10:38 AM

I'm having crashes while using this template. I usually delete many of the leagues to concentrate on a few of the smaller leagues, only to have the game crash on inaugural draft day.

But regardless, has anyone played out a long sim (10-15 years) with any of the lower leagues? That is, leagues with MLE and PCMs under 1.00? Without getting too detailed, I've noticed some gradual decline in ERAs and BAVGs over 10 years after working out custom league total modifiers, which then remain unchanged throughout the sim. I'm not sure if this is just normal fluctuation or a result of the lower PCMs because if I remember correctly, I don't see this phenomena in a league with all PCMs at 1.00.

One additional note: I'm using a minor league with the Cuban League and after 5 or so years, I consistently run into illegal roster sizes. This may be a result of the above finding, but if I have to run 10-20 test leagues to get things right, and its not a complicated setup, something is not working. Any ideas? I'd thought I'd post here first then in a more appropriate place if need be for wider attention.

andymac · 08-07-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by No Pepper

One additional note: I'm using a minor league with the Cuban League and after 5 or so years, I consistently run into illegal roster sizes. This may be a result of the above finding, but if I have to run 10-20 test leagues to get things right, and its not a complicated setup, something is not working. Any ideas? I'd thought I'd post here first then in a more appropriate place if need be for wider attention.

How many rounds is your ammy draft? Are you allowing players from your league to leave and go to other leagues?

No Pepper · 08-07-2006, 12:17 PM

Thanks for asking, andymac.

My ammy drafts are 10 rounds each season and this is an isolated league setup, i.e., just the Cuban League (30 man rosters) and its minor league (25 man). Each league has 16 teams. No changes to any age or development modifiers either. Again, the sim doesnt halt for depleted minors until about season 5 or 6 and then it seems like its every year after that. I'd like to include my changes such that it can be incorporated into a world template like this one, but as you might know, Cuba today is closed to trading and free agency. So at league start, I delete all free agents *EDIT* and there is no financials. Its a rather bare-boned setup. Would this strict lack of movement be causing accelerated roster depletion?

andymac · 08-07-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by No Pepper

Thanks for asking, andymac.

My ammy drafts are 10 rounds each season and this is an isolated league setup, i.e., just the Cuban League (30 man rosters) and its minor league (25 man). Each league has 16 teams. No changes to any age or development modifiers either. Again, the sim doesnt halt for depleted minors until about season 5 or 6 and then it seems like its every year after that. I'd like to include my changes such that it can be incorporated into a world template like this one, but as you might know, Cuba today is closed to trading and free agency. So at league start, I delete all free agents *EDIT* and there is no financials. Its a rather bare-boned setup. Would this strict lack of movement be causing accelerated roster depletion?

Well, the lack of financials could be a problem because that means your teams aren't signing anyone (and likely are releasing players). Adding together the guys your teams are releasing to the players that are retiring and you may have more players leaving the league each year than the ammy draft is bringing in. I'm not sure what the best solution is...maybe turn financials on but make them extremely low or increase the ammy draft rounds. You might just have to examine the teams fairly closely to see how they are losing players before you know what action to take to fix it.

No Pepper · 08-07-2006, 01:06 PM

I'm not so sure teams are releasing players as often as a league with free agency and financials on, but yes, I'll have to make sure about that. Initially, I thought that a strong influx of players via a 5 and 10 round ammy draft (with only one level of minors) would be counterproductive at some point, pushing out players on both levels who probably shouldn't be.

An additional note: I've had my developmental league set at AA and R in various tests. Only immediate difference I see is the age of players created for those leagues (except of course the higher ratings). Not sure if a jump like that straight to the "majors" is also having such an impact (I want to keep incoming players young).

Related find: Having minors with an international league has a quirk in the transaction news. Players in the minors get "demoted" to the parent, international club and players in the parent international club get "promoted" to the minors.

koohead · 08-07-2006, 06:00 PM

Noticed this weekend the existence of a RESERVE roster. I originally had 5 round drafts for the Mexican league and stuff, but like you ran into problems with no pitchers on active roster and all that fun stuff.

So..quick solution? always make sure there are free agents. How do I do that? Increased my MLB draft to 50 rounds, and made all the other leagues have 20 rounds drafts. After 5 years, I have a healthy pool of 9000 free agents. Problem solved.

No Pepper · 08-08-2006, 10:11 AM

Did another test and it looks like my ammy draft was being skipped over. Only draft in 7 year history was after the first year. May have to do with the set date (December, league starts in April). At 7 years, I got my first illegal roster message. And in this test I had added another minor league level. In the "Auto-Play until Event" field, it would say: 2004 Amateur draft, December 1, 2005.

andymac · 08-08-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by No Pepper

Did another test and it looks like my ammy draft was being skipped over. Only draft in 7 year history was after the first year. May have to do with the set date (December, league starts in April). At 7 years, I got my first illegal roster message. And in this test I had added another minor league level. In the "Auto-Play until Event" field, it would say: 2004 Amateur draft, December 1, 2005.

Ah, yes, I think this is a problem when league dates for a specific season span over the new year. I think you just need to change it after that first year and it should update correctly from that point on.

Teyeler · 08-08-2006, 07:46 PM

Has there been a second release of this template yet?

ricobrown · 08-08-2006, 10:34 PM

The next release of this template will come in different formats. As some of the leagues have had scheduling issues, I will delete the ncaa and college leagues. I also will include all the logos for the leagues and there will be two sets released, one with fictional majors and one with imported majors.

NomarHits400 · 08-09-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ricobrown

The next release of this template will come in different formats. As some of the leagues have had scheduling issues, I will delete the ncaa and college leagues. I also will include all the logos for the leagues and there will be two sets released, one with fictional majors and one with imported majors.

Please tell me you will be using Cubby's new roster's for the imported ML roster....

ricobrown · 08-10-2006, 12:47 AM

I have talked to cubby and i am planning on using the roster if I can get it to import correctly

koohead · 08-10-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ricobrown

The next release of this template will come in different formats. As some of the leagues have had scheduling issues, I will delete the ncaa and college leagues. I also will include all the logos for the leagues and there will be two sets released, one with fictional majors and one with imported majors.

Oh now he tells me he's doing this...after I just got done recreating the world myself!

Eh, it was fun anyway. Rico: Thanks for all the efforts man.

cbarnhill40 · 08-14-2006, 05:18 PM

Has anyone using the template found a set of equilalencies that will help the strikeouts, walks, and shutouts issue for the major league level. Sorry if this has been asked I tried to search but didn't find a clear answer

koohead · 08-14-2006, 08:04 PM

I've tried...it doesn't matter. No matter what I do to the equivs and the modifiers, the walks are off.

APujols5 · 08-14-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by koohead

I've tried...it doesn't matter. No matter what I do to the equivs and the modifiers, the walks are off.

I'm actually testing many many things in this template right now. is the walks a problem only in the MLB? or all leagues?

koohead · 08-14-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by APujols5

I'm actually testing many many things in this template right now. is the walks a problem only in the MLB? or all leagues?

Just MLB. Only thing I can think of is it has to do with the 6.5 roster import. although, even after I deleted all the players and filled with fictional it still did the same thing, so I really don't know.

08-07-2006, 10:38 AM	#164
No Pepper All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,570	I'm having crashes while using this template. I usually delete many of the leagues to concentrate on a few of the smaller leagues, only to have the game crash on inaugural draft day. But regardless, has anyone played out a long sim (10-15 years) with any of the lower leagues? That is, leagues with MLE and PCMs under 1.00? Without getting too detailed, I've noticed some gradual decline in ERAs and BAVGs over 10 years after working out custom league total modifiers, which then remain unchanged throughout the sim. I'm not sure if this is just normal fluctuation or a result of the lower PCMs because if I remember correctly, I don't see this phenomena in a league with all PCMs at 1.00. One additional note: I'm using a minor league with the Cuban League and after 5 or so years, I consistently run into illegal roster sizes. This may be a result of the above finding, but if I have to run 10-20 test leagues to get things right, and its not a complicated setup, something is not working. Any ideas? I'd thought I'd post here first then in a more appropriate place if need be for wider attention. __________________ Uniforms compatible with OOTP23/24 Historical Major League Baseball 1901-current Historical Major League Baseball 1871-1900 Historical Federal League Historical Negro Leagues

08-07-2006, 12:17 PM	#166
No Pepper All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,570	Thanks for asking, andymac. My ammy drafts are 10 rounds each season and this is an isolated league setup, i.e., just the Cuban League (30 man rosters) and its minor league (25 man). Each league has 16 teams. No changes to any age or development modifiers either. Again, the sim doesnt halt for depleted minors until about season 5 or 6 and then it seems like its every year after that. I'd like to include my changes such that it can be incorporated into a world template like this one, but as you might know, Cuba today is closed to trading and free agency. So at league start, I delete all free agents EDIT and there is no financials. Its a rather bare-boned setup. Would this strict lack of movement be causing accelerated roster depletion? __________________ Uniforms compatible with OOTP23/24 Historical Major League Baseball 1901-current Historical Major League Baseball 1871-1900 Historical Federal League Historical Negro Leagues Last edited by No Pepper; 08-07-2006 at 12:21 PM.

08-07-2006, 01:06 PM	#168
No Pepper All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,570	I'm not so sure teams are releasing players as often as a league with free agency and financials on, but yes, I'll have to make sure about that. Initially, I thought that a strong influx of players via a 5 and 10 round ammy draft (with only one level of minors) would be counterproductive at some point, pushing out players on both levels who probably shouldn't be. An additional note: I've had my developmental league set at AA and R in various tests. Only immediate difference I see is the age of players created for those leagues (except of course the higher ratings). Not sure if a jump like that straight to the "majors" is also having such an impact (I want to keep incoming players young). Related find: Having minors with an international league has a quirk in the transaction news. Players in the minors get "demoted" to the parent, international club and players in the parent international club get "promoted" to the minors. __________________ Uniforms compatible with OOTP23/24 Historical Major League Baseball 1901-current Historical Major League Baseball 1871-1900 Historical Federal League Historical Negro Leagues

08-07-2006, 06:00 PM	#169
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,233	One thing I noticed Noticed this weekend the existence of a RESERVE roster. I originally had 5 round drafts for the Mexican league and stuff, but like you ran into problems with no pitchers on active roster and all that fun stuff. So..quick solution? always make sure there are free agents. How do I do that? Increased my MLB draft to 50 rounds, and made all the other leagues have 20 rounds drafts. After 5 years, I have a healthy pool of 9000 free agents. Problem solved. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

08-08-2006, 10:11 AM	#170
No Pepper All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,570	Did another test and it looks like my ammy draft was being skipped over. Only draft in 7 year history was after the first year. May have to do with the set date (December, league starts in April). At 7 years, I got my first illegal roster message. And in this test I had added another minor league level. In the "Auto-Play until Event" field, it would say: 2004 Amateur draft, December 1, 2005. __________________ Uniforms compatible with OOTP23/24 Historical Major League Baseball 1901-current Historical Major League Baseball 1871-1900 Historical Federal League Historical Negro Leagues Last edited by No Pepper; 08-08-2006 at 10:12 AM.

07-31-2006, 07:41 PM	#162
Tekneek Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: GA, USA Posts: 455	I have been trying this today and after evening out the number of teams in each league to avoid those errors, as well as the number of games, I get stuck at 88% complete generating the schedule. If I delete the NCAA, it will complete. With everything even, and no errors, why does the NCAA completely hang up the game? I've fixed everything to supposedly follow what OOTP2006 is supposed to be able to handle, yet it still craps out.

08-08-2006, 07:46 PM	#172
Teyeler Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Olmsted Ohio Posts: 32	Has there been a second release of this template yet? __________________ MAN LAW: Upon learning a fellow man is a member of the Armed Forces, you are obligated to buy him a beer!

08-08-2006, 10:34 PM	#173
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	The next release of this template will come in different formats. As some of the leagues have had scheduling issues, I will delete the ncaa and college leagues. I also will include all the logos for the leagues and there will be two sets released, one with fictional majors and one with imported majors.

08-10-2006, 12:47 AM	#175
ricobrown Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 131	I have talked to cubby and i am planning on using the roster if I can get it to import correctly

08-14-2006, 05:18 PM	#177
cbarnhill40 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16	Has anyone using the template found a set of equilalencies that will help the strikeouts, walks, and shutouts issue for the major league level. Sorry if this has been asked I tried to search but didn't find a clear answer

08-14-2006, 08:04 PM	#178
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,233	Equivs and this template I've tried...it doesn't matter. No matter what I do to the equivs and the modifiers, the walks are off. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;