2024 WNBA Thread

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Maybe. But there are a number of women who outright quit or take multi year breaks. They gotta be making a living somehow & I doubt it pays as much as when they were active.

I mean… I’m just a web developer and I make more than WNBA rookies and I believe a fair number of vets too. There is a point to be made that this might be more like the early NFL or NBA where talents like Heisman Trophy winner Byron White went into law instead of giving a second thought to an NFL career.

Also of course unlike men if women want to start a family they have to take time off. Witness Elena Della Donne this year.

All that said, Clark is getting a loooot of money from endorsements and frankly the hardest run of games that like anyone in the WNBA has perhaps ever had to face is no proof that she lacks stick to it iveness or something. Anyone, Jordan included, would be completely run down after 11 games in 20 days.

[pilight]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Then how do you explain the burnout among women's tennis, golf & other sports where college hasn't been the gateway to a career?

It's mostly a matter of women having fewer opportunities for far less money. For a man, even a marginal career in pro sports can make you a millionaire. A woman has to be far better relative to her peers in order to make it and even if she does she can make as much or more money doing something that doesn't involve punishing her body to its absolute limit. It's no wonder that men are more likely to push through teenage sports ennui.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by pilight

It's mostly a matter of women having fewer opportunities for far less money. For a man, even a marginal career in pro sports can make you a millionaire. A woman has to be far better relative to her peers in order to make it and even if she does she can make as much or more money doing something that doesn't involve punishing her body to its absolute limit. It's no wonder that men are more likely to push through teenage sports ennui.

Money has little to do with it.

https://digitalcommons.sacredheart.e.../2023/all/142/

Women experience higher rates of stress and have more chronic stress than men (Purvanova 2010; Matud 2004). Stress and burnout are inversely related to well-being. Positive well-being helps athletes build positive relationships with their teammates and feel as though they are making more of an impact athletically (Gabana et. al 2017; DeFreese and Smith 2014).

Female athletes may seek and rely more on social support to increase their well-being and feel more in control, suggesting that social support has a more impactful impact compared to men

https://www.womenssportsfoundation.o...titive-sports/

It is clear that athletic burnout is a current epidemic among all ages but in particular, it is highest among female athletes who exhibit maladaptive perfectionism, explained below, and those who are specializing in a single sport at a young age.

https://www.primescholars.com/articl...l-athletes.pdf

burnout in female athletes was significantly higher than male athletes in all its three
dimensions, i.e. reduced sense of accomplishment, emotional exhaustion, and devaluation (p<0.01). The findings
suggest that female athletes are more prone to burnout and its negative consequences than male athletes.

[Cobra Mgr]

So A'Ja Wilson, one of the WNBA's best, got hit in the face multiple times last night & never got the foul call. On her way to being the 1st WNBA player w/@ least 35 pts, 10 boards & 5 steals in a game.

Let's see how much time the sports take shows spend on protecting this big star of the game. Or how much social media claims there is a racial component to the violations.

[pilight]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Money has little to do with it.

I disagree with their conclusions. Women don't have the incentive to overcome those things because there is so much less reward for success and they get far less pushback from their parents when they try to quit.

[dsvitak]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

So A'Ja Wilson, one of the WNBA's best, got hit in the face multiple times last night & never got the foul call. On her way to being the 1st WNBA player w/@ least 35 pts, 10 boards & 5 steals in a game.

Let's see how much time the sports take shows spend on protecting this big star of the game. Or how much social media claims there is a racial component to the violations.

Geno says CC is being targeted. He doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by pilight

I disagree with their conclusions. Women don't have the incentive to overcome those things because there is so much less reward for success and they get far less pushback from their parents when they try to quit.

Your right. You don't have to believe multiple studies done by separate experts that came to the same conclusions. Doesn't prevent anyone from running for office, so certainly shouldn't prevent you from posting.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

Geno says CC is being targeted. He doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

Cobra Mgr says she is being targeted. And he doesn't have a horse in the race.

[thehef]

Targeted in the sense that rookies - especially ones that arrive with lots of fanfare, hoopla, hubbub, and hullabaloo - get targeted to see if they can stand the heat and prove themselves? Yep, for sure.

Is she being targeted with dirty play? I'm thinking she's not, that she's just getting tested very physically (as are the other rooks). But it's too small of a sample size to say for sure one way or another. IMO

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by thehef

Targeted in the sense that rookies - especially ones that arrive with lots of fanfare, hoopla, hubbub, and hullabaloo - get targeted to see if they can stand the heat and prove themselves? Yep, for sure.

Is she being targeted with dirty play? I'm thinking she's not, that she's just getting tested very physically (as are the other rooks). But it's too small of a sample size to say for sure one way or another. IMO

I'm with you in regards to the hoopla and hubbub, but disagree on the hullabaloo.

[pilight]

Originally Posted by dsvitak

Geno says CC is being targeted. He doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

Geno's been taken out of context many time before and will be many times in the future.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I'm with you in regards to the hoopla and hubbub, but disagree on the hullabaloo.

Isn't that just like you, DW? I might have to block you...

[Cobra Mgr]

Again, I blame the media for stirring up a bunch of unnecessary controversy when nothing has happened but the normal business of sports & competition. They've stirred the crazy maniacs into being even more maniacal & crazy and this benefits no one. Not Clark. Not the WNBA. Not women's sports. No one.

[monkeyman576]

Anything Clark does is going to be blown up 100 times because of who she is. It's aggrivating but I wouldn't say it's irresponsible. You have sexism, racism and economic subplots all rolled into one. Probably any Caitlin Clark link is clicked on 100 times compared to any other WNBA link so who can really blame the media.

[Ty Cobb]

I see the olympic committee has decided to leave Caitlin home. She thumps most of the so called olympians statistically, so it can’t be her game.

Anyone want to speculate as to what two factors kept her out?

[dsvitak]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

I see the olympic committee has decided to leave Caitlin home. She thumps most of the so called olympians statistically, so it can’t be her game.

Anyone want to speculate as to what two factors kept her out?

#1, her lack of experience in international play.

#2, she never was at their camp, earlier. She was in the final four.

I am completely OK with this. The US team will roffle-stomp whomever they play, and I suspect that CC will get a "cap" for the US at some point. Soon.

[Ty Cobb]

I see the pothead who played one game this year is in. Try again.

[Cobra Mgr]

The story I heard was she wasn't in camp, therefore not eligible. I'm pretty sure she isn't the 1st rookie not to make the roster.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

I see the pothead who played one game this year is in. Try again.

Why should we guess? Just tell us!

[dsvitak]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

The story I heard was she wasn't in camp, therefore not eligible. I'm pretty sure she isn't the 1st rookie not to make the roster.

I agree. It is a win-win for the US, and CC. She doesn't need the drama, and the US team without her is by far the best team in the world.