Hatton-Mayweather - Page 6

mh2365 · 12-11-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meade95

Hatton would stop Malignaggi inside of 8 rounds.....(make it 10 if Cortez is reffing!!).

No way .. if Cotto didn't stop him, Hatton wouldn't either. There are a lot of things I don't like about Malignaggi but the kid has heart (like I said he gets hit a lot and keeps fighting).

Absolutely no way Hatton stops him .. wins easily sure but doesn't stop him.

Come on meade ... lay off the Cortez stuff ... Hatton had all his reffing breaks in his first 40 fights.

meade95 · 12-11-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

No way .. if Cotto didn't stop him, Hatton wouldn't either. There are a lot of things I don't like about Malignaggi but the kid has heart (like I said he gets hit a lot and keeps fighting).

Absolutely no way Hatton stops him .. wins easily sure but doesn't stop him.

Come on meade ... lay off the Cortez stuff ... Hatton had all his reffing breaks in his first 40 fights.

Yeah - Point taken - Hatton by clear cut UD -

As for Cortez, I'm telling you, I watched the fight again...and simply find Cortez more pathetic and inept every round I watched. That was a huge fight.....Absolutely ridiculous the bush league performance that Cortez put forth.....

mh2365 · 12-11-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by meade95

Yeah - Point taken - Hatton by clear cut UD -

As for Cortez, I'm telling you, I watched the fight again...and simply find Cortez more pathetic and inept every round I watched. That was a huge fight.....Absolutely ridiculous the bush league performance that Cortez put forth.....

Oh I agree 100% but Hatton shouldn't be complaining after some of the reffing he has gotten. I grew to respect Paulie after the beating he took from Cotto.

meade95 · 12-11-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Oh I agree 100% but Hatton shouldn't be complaining after some of the reffing he has gotten. I grew to respect Paulie after the beating he took from Cotto.

Again, sound point regarding Paulie....(though I was glad the beating Cotto put on him....but he did take it like a man for the most part).

As for Hatton, I really haven't heard him complain about the Ref (on the whole). Outside of he thought the point deduction sucked.......I've not heard him say it was any excuse for losing.....

I think it has been more Hatton fans...or fans in general (like myself) who just thought Cortez was awful....and did play a factor in the fight...

mh2365 · 12-11-2007, 11:54 PM

Yeah I meant that ... Hatton has been 100% professional .. his fans are idiots.

Mr Big · 12-12-2007, 05:17 PM

Know I'm chiming in a bit late here, but I had it 5-3-1 for Mayweather through 9 rounds. As previously mentioned, no way it was 8-1, or even 7-2. The judges seemed determined to mess Hatton over, should the fight have gone the distance. Ricky is king at 140. Would like to see him unify that division.

On another note, would like to see Floyd step up to MW and fight Pavlik. Mayweather could use a heaping helping of humble pie, and I believe that Kelly is just the man for the job.

a87star · 12-12-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Big

On another note, would like to see Floyd step up to MW and fight Pavlik. Mayweather could use a heaping helping of humble pie, and I believe that Kelly is just the man for the job.

I don't see PBF ever stepping up to MW. He was pretty humble at the post-fight press conference and gave Hatton props for being a tough opponent.

IMO too many people judge Floyd on his personality. That's who he is. I rather him be himself instead of a puppet for the media. PBF should be remembered for his accomplishments in the ring, not for his antics.

mh2365 · 12-12-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Big

On another note, would like to see Floyd step up to MW and fight Pavlik. Mayweather could use a heaping helping of humble pie, and I believe that Kelly is just the man for the job.

So jump to a weight that is obviously way too big for him? Why not jump up and fight Klitschko?

I'd like to see Pac Man fight Joe Calzaghe ... Joe could take him. I'd like to see Nonito Donaire jump up and fight Chad Dawson.

Yeah I know he stepped up to JMW to fight a blown up LW ... not a full fledge JMW.

I know I've said this a million times but I like my boxers to be arrogant punks ... nice guys finish last. Sugar Ray was always a douche bag ... only difference was he smiled for the cameras ... him and PBF are one and the same when it comes to personality.

Cap · 12-12-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

So jump to a weight that is obviously way too big for him? Why not jump up and fight Klitschko?

I'd like to see Pac Man fight Joe Calzaghe ... Joe could take him. I'd like to see Nonito Donaire jump up and fight Chad Dawson.

Yeah I know he stepped up to JMW to fight a blown up LW ... not a full fledge JMW.

I know I've said this a million times but I like my boxers to be arrogant punks ... nice guys finish last. Sugar Ray was always a douche bag ... only difference was he smiled for the cameras ... him and PBF are one and the same when it comes to personality.

So you mean you don't really like that goody two shoes Wlad Klitschko?

Cap

mh2365 · 12-12-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap

So you mean you don't really like that goody two shoes Wlad Klitschko?

Cap

There are exceptions to every rule. Mainly I'm saying in a sport like boxing, hating a guy because he is cocky and arrogant just seems to go against everything that boxing represents .. but this day and age everyone always hates things that are the best and are popular.

Everyone would hate Ali if he were around today.

meade95 · 12-12-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

So jump to a weight that is obviously way too big for him? Why not jump up and fight Klitschko?

I'd like to see Pac Man fight Joe Calzaghe ... Joe could take him. I'd like to see Nonito Donaire jump up and fight Chad Dawson.

Yeah I know he stepped up to JMW to fight a blown up LW ... not a full fledge JMW.

I know I've said this a million times but I like my boxers to be arrogant punks ... nice guys finish last. Sugar Ray was always a douche bag ... only difference was he smiled for the cameras ... him and PBF are one and the same when it comes to personality.

You can be "cocky", self assured and all the rest WITHOUT being an immature punk. There is a big difference between the two......PBF is a 30 year old going on 13....... That isn't "cool", he is pathetically immature more often than not.

Ali was robust, talkative and all the rest....But he was an adult more often than not about it......PBF acts like a spolid brat (and then cry's after every fight like a child does when they are ashamed of themselves).

He is a hell of a fighter but like I said.....the kid is pathetically immature. And immaturity is never a cool trait....I don't care how big of a bad as$ you are (or think you are).

Cap · 12-13-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

There are exceptions to every rule. Mainly I'm saying in a sport like boxing, hating a guy because he is cocky and arrogant just seems to go against everything that boxing represents .. but this day and age everyone always hates things that are the best and are popular.

Everyone would hate Ali if he were around today.

Around now? I didn't even like him back then...

But everyone has different favourites. Some people even like the Maple Leafs!

Cap

CONN CHRIS · 12-13-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cap

Some people even like the Maple Leafs!

Cap

What a storied history though. They won a ton of International League pennants, saw some great players like Elston Howard, Nap Lajoie and Reggie Smith go through the clubhouse and were a huge success at the gate in the fifties when Jack Kent Cooke owned them. I can't blame anyone for being a big fan.

Wait a minute, you're referring to the Leafs that wear funny sweaters and lose all the time. Different story.

Cap · 12-13-2007, 11:19 AM

Yeah, does guys! They are part of the punch line to the old joke, "What's blue and white and lives in the cellar?" (Any team in Toronto)

Cap

AZZA · 12-14-2007, 02:01 AM

Just got back from vegas and would like to point out some observations. It was a great spectacle and the travelling army of ricky fans made the atmosphere unbeliveable. the wiegh in was intresting foresight into why the morons booed the national anthem, rickys support was phenomanal and to try and counter act that and find some identityfor the pretty boy the american flag became a big part of floyd`s entrance (they even shipped in 100 local school kids who were flag waving) . 80 percent of all americans i spoke to pre fight wanted ricky to win, never before has there been a more unpopular champ?. pbf maxed it out coming into the ring to born in the usa ...... clever pr stuff cos this fight was not about usa vs uk but the crowed had been suked in , then came the usa anthem which was booed much to my and any decent englishmens embarresment.(deepest apologies). every non commited american was now rooting for pbf , the old five card trick!
Cortez wasnt exactly great but the simple fact was pbf outclassed hatton stopping him on the inside and leaving himself with no plan b. floydd moved to a new level than what we have seen and put on a master class , hatton got fustrated and left himself wideopen, the rest is history. pbf spoke well after the fifght and was full of praise for hatton . pbf will become an all time great and i say that through gritted teeth , not sure if ricky will ever be the same.
on another note hopkins got sucked in by the crowd at the weigh in and squared up to calzaghe , i believe the fight is on in april, bhop looked much bigger and i fear another british defeat but hopefully the fans wont shane themselves this time.

Cap · 12-14-2007, 08:56 AM

Smart of Maywether to praise his opponent after a fight. If he says he just beat a bum it tarnishes his own image as a great fighter.

Cap

Tommysixfingers · 12-14-2007, 09:45 AM

It always surprises me when politicians, athletes and other people use "Born in the USA" as "propaganda" (Wrong word, but I couldn't come up with a better one) as Springsteen ment something completetly different when he wrote it.

meade95 · 12-14-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

It always surprises me when politicians, athletes and other people use "Born in the USA" as "propaganda" (Wrong word, but I couldn't come up with a better one) as Springsteen ment something completetly different when he wrote it.

Springsteen is a fool....Who loves to badmouth a country that has provided him with both the opportunity and the resources to live the lifestyle he does today...... That others use the words of his song (or the hook of his song) for a more supportive gesture is all the better. The guy is a mindless dolt who doesn't have a clue what he is talking (or singing) about more often than not.

Thunder · 12-14-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Everyone would hate Ali if he were around today.

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Originally Posted by Cap

Around now? I didn't even like him back then...

A lot of people hated him . . . he was wildly popular in the last third of his career, but there were plenty of people who held his war stance and religious choices against him to the end (or I guess thought he wasn't as good as advertised)

Thunder · 12-14-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

It always surprises me when politicians, athletes and other people use "Born in the USA" as "propaganda" (Wrong word, but I couldn't come up with a better one) as Springsteen ment something completetly different when he wrote it.

Funny Sir indeed

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Originally Posted by meade95

Springsteen is a fool....Who loves to badmouth a country that has provided him with both the opportunity and the resources to live the lifestyle he does today...... That others use the words of his song (or the hook of his song) for a more supportive gesture is all the better. The guy is a mindless dolt who doesn't have a clue what he is talking (or singing) about more often than not.

I have to disagree there. Protesting government activity with music goes way back and that's the form some of his writing has taken. You might not agree with the message, and that's fine, but midless dolt? Nah. I'd say he's one of the diminshing number of voices still left in rock.

Bruce has released 15 studio records in 35 years. Certainly he's made a fortune, but could have made two or three fortunes, and won perhaps a few more knick-knacks, if he chose to do thing differently. But he has a rep as someone who puts in an absurd amount of time in the writing/recording procesees, specifically because he takes the time to know what he wants to say and wants that conveyed perfectly in the final product.

12-12-2007, 05:17 PM	#106
Mr Big All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,238	Know I'm chiming in a bit late here, but I had it 5-3-1 for Mayweather through 9 rounds. As previously mentioned, no way it was 8-1, or even 7-2. The judges seemed determined to mess Hatton over, should the fight have gone the distance. Ricky is king at 140. Would like to see him unify that division. On another note, would like to see Floyd step up to MW and fight Pavlik. Mayweather could use a heaping helping of humble pie, and I believe that Kelly is just the man for the job. __________________ The M.O.B. Isaiah 54:17 Last edited by Mr Big; 12-12-2007 at 05:18 PM.

12-13-2007, 11:19 AM	#114
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,965	Yeah, does guys! They are part of the punch line to the old joke, "What's blue and white and lives in the cellar?" (Any team in Toronto) Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

12-14-2007, 02:01 AM	#115
AZZA Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: london Posts: 468	debrief Just got back from vegas and would like to point out some observations. It was a great spectacle and the travelling army of ricky fans made the atmosphere unbeliveable. the wiegh in was intresting foresight into why the morons booed the national anthem, rickys support was phenomanal and to try and counter act that and find some identityfor the pretty boy the american flag became a big part of floyd`s entrance (they even shipped in 100 local school kids who were flag waving) . 80 percent of all americans i spoke to pre fight wanted ricky to win, never before has there been a more unpopular champ?. pbf maxed it out coming into the ring to born in the usa ...... clever pr stuff cos this fight was not about usa vs uk but the crowed had been suked in , then came the usa anthem which was booed much to my and any decent englishmens embarresment.(deepest apologies). every non commited american was now rooting for pbf , the old five card trick! Cortez wasnt exactly great but the simple fact was pbf outclassed hatton stopping him on the inside and leaving himself with no plan b. floydd moved to a new level than what we have seen and put on a master class , hatton got fustrated and left himself wideopen, the rest is history. pbf spoke well after the fifght and was full of praise for hatton . pbf will become an all time great and i say that through gritted teeth , not sure if ricky will ever be the same. on another note hopkins got sucked in by the crowd at the weigh in and squared up to calzaghe , i believe the fight is on in april, bhop looked much bigger and i fear another british defeat but hopefully the fans wont shane themselves this time.

12-14-2007, 08:56 AM	#116
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,965	Smart of Maywether to praise his opponent after a fight. If he says he just beat a bum it tarnishes his own image as a great fighter. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

12-11-2007, 11:54 PM	#105
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Yeah I meant that ... Hatton has been 100% professional .. his fans are idiots.

12-14-2007, 09:45 AM	#117
Tommysixfingers All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,500	It always surprises me when politicians, athletes and other people use "Born in the USA" as "propaganda" (Wrong word, but I couldn't come up with a better one) as Springsteen ment something completetly different when he wrote it.