MLB 2023 Season

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by Amazin69

Oh, how noble of you to spring to Bru's defense…over posts I never accused him of making.

Not coming to his defense. Dru is a grown man & can take care of himself. I'm making sure no one takes any bullets meant for me.

I pointed out that it was silly for him to raise no objections to your spewing "asinine" at other posters

Wait....so you were calling out Bru for not defending you but falsely criticize me for doing the same? You get dizzy running in circles like that?

(and gosh, by calling the position asinine you weren't insulting the person who stated it? Give me a break with your bullspit hair-splitting)

It wasn't an insult. It was the truth. But hey, prove me wrong. Cause I don't mind being corrected. If you can name me a process where the more continued mistakes the better, I will 1, admit the mistake, 2 admit it was an unnecessary insult and 3, apologize to you publicly. If not, then check your ego.

and yet still lose his water because I made a joke while taking offense at the insult he directed at me.

And you wouldn't question it if someone unprovoked projected another argument you had nothing to do with unto you?

I never said that he took the invective to asinine levels, merely that he raised no objection to your doing so.

There goes that hypocrisy again. You can't hold him responsible for defending you and then criticize others defending him. Which wasn't being done.

But hey, keep parsing my posts for new things to get snotty about. That will do tons of good, I'm sure.

You're welcome.

Followed neatly by your going to literary lengths to insult me in your very next post. Well played, Dulcinea!

Wow. I can't figure out if you meant to insult me, criticize me, or mock me w/this. Either way, it doesn't offend, I'm not apologetic & I find it a badge of honor.

(Or are you saying that you're fine as long as other posters don't spew insults, but you don't feel that prohibition should apply to you? Certainly a convenient position for you to hold…but you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for me to co-sign it. Just so you know.)

Like I said, it wasn't an insult. Your ego is just butt hurt cause you were told the truth.

[pauwoo]

Just got caught up on this thread... not much of value in the last few pages. I will say, however, that quoting Prince's Batdance in your signature (@Cobra Mgr) is a BOLD PLAY.

Respect.

I love that song.

[Cobra Mgr]

Originally Posted by pauwoo

Just got caught up on this thread... not much of value in the last few pages. I will say, however, that quoting Prince's Batdance in your signature (@Cobra Mgr) is a BOLD PLAY.

Respect.

I love that song.

Thanks. And I agree w/all you said.

So I'm ending my participation in that "discussion" before the thread gets locked.

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Cause I don't mind being corrected.

When I saw your name as the last post on the index, I smiled that you felt a need to "get the last word", a desire which is sometimes called "childish". And I figured I would just let you have your way and I would keep smiling.

But I can hardly let that pass. I mean, to quote the elder Biden, "C'mon, man!" Seriously, what have the past few pages been if not an extended illustration of how much you can't stand to be corrected?

For example, you mght remember how I said that I didn't like people excusing all of the rule changes simply because of the supposed benefits of the pitch clock which both seems unnecessary (I don't carp about pace of play or not getting to bed) and isn't actually a change, since the rule has been on the books forever; Charlie Finley had a pitch clock in KC in the 1960s. It's just that the umpires had failed to enforce it and so it could be fixed with a simple instruction. (See for example how the 1987 direction to more strictly enforce the balk rules is why the name "Bob Davidson" likely just leaped to mind.)

Even though that post wasn't addressed to you, you vehemently objected (I would say "flew into a rage", but honestly that would only be a guess) and challenged me to show you where ANYBODY [your caps] had said that.

To which I cited numerous media reports (you didn't like this because you felt I should limit myself to examples from the board, even though you had not placed this constraint on your initial demand), and I also noted that while I had not scoured the board, I felt it was rather likely that somebody, at some time, had indeed cited the pitch clock as a reason to approve of ManfredBall, despite disliking other changes.

I even noted whimsically that "somebody" might indeed be you yourself, a suggestion that you also did not seem happy about.

Well, guess what? I did do a little searching last night and on Page 28 I found the most darling post, dated July 13th, in which the poster said they didn't like banning the shifts (like banning a pitch because the batters can't hit it, the writer said), but overall they liked the changes and thought they had improved the game. In other words that the positives of the PC outweighed the negatives of other changes, precisely what I had said people were claiming and which you emphatically denied had ever been said on this board.

Which makes it even more amusing that the post from July 13th, as I had semi-predicted, was in fact written by you.

(Certain people would say "mic drop" here, I imagine.)

If you can name me a process where the more continued mistakes the better…

First off, nobody was ever arguing in favor of mistakes per se. That's a straw man that you have gone to IMO silly lengths to construct.

The argument is that mistakes are a necessary risk to preserve the idea that HUMAN competition should be decided by HUMANS, even if HUMAN error sometimes occurs. It is a risk/reward analysis.

You know this, because I already said this. Perhaps this time it will sink in.

If it does, the fact that succeeded where I had failed previously would be an illustration that sometimes "mistakes" (such as my assuming you could grasp a rather basic argument) do pay off, down the road. And therefore persistence/trial and error/empirical testing can make things better, as pretty much everything from the invention of fire on up has proven.

…I will 1, admit the mistake, 2 admit it was an unnecessary insult and 3, apologize to you publicly.

This would be lovely. However, as before, I'm not holding my breath.

(To be fair, in most circumstances, holding one's breath isn't necessarily a great idea.)

If not, then check your ego

I'm sorry, but you don't get to tell me what to do. Because you don't own me [/Dusty Springfield]

Even here in the Carolinas, that hasn't been legal since 1865. I only moved here five years ago, but I would have thought the NC schools had covered that. Huh.

And you wouldn't question it if someone unprovoked projected another argument you had nothing to do with unto you?

Your ego is just butt hurt cause you were told the truth.

You've neglected the snark-quotes around "truth", I see.

And just you don't own me, you can't read my mind. (RIP Gordon Lightfoot.) All you're doing is guessing. If you also guess the lottery numbers, I wish you better luck.

Live Long and Prosper.

(You're also wrong about the stuff having to do with Bru, but he isn't reading this, so I'll skip it.)

[MathBandit]

So...how about baseball? I'd try and make a more subtle segue back with a funny tidbit or factoid but don't want an essay-length Um Actually response from someone who misunderstands what I wrote and tries to correct me.

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by MathBandit

So...how about baseball? I'd try and make a more subtle segue back with a funny tidbit or factoid but don't want an essay-length Um Actually response from someone who misunderstands what I wrote and tries to correct me.

Um Actually, snarking on one person‘s post while claiming they "misunderstood" the other participant isn't exactly the best way to achieve a neutral "let's all move on" change of subject. Just so you know.

(You may find this knowledge useful later in life. No need to thank me, though.)

And my preferred blatantly-blunt segue has always been "Sooooo…how about those Knicks?" But that isn't baseball, precisely, I'll allow.

[mytreds]

I hate the extended playoffs. Because it gives boring as dirt teams like the Giants a “chance” to still get in. Just lose your games and go into the offseason SF. So I can complain more about Kapler and Zaidi running to true clown show in the clown town.

[Westheim]

(without even looking over the top edge of his newspaper) Play nice, boys...!

[monkeyman576]

I prefer fewer teams in the postseason but in the end it's all about money.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I prefer fewer teams in the postseason but in the end it's all about money.

It always has been, right from the beginning of professional sports.

[Cobra Mgr]

Giants are all but eliminated. & the Reds have put themselves in a precarious position. Astros are curiously having troubles w/the Royals.

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Giants are all but eliminated. & the Reds have put themselves in a precarious position. Astros are curiously having troubles w/the Royals.

There’s a lot of cope in the SF media. Barely anyone criticizes the front office and Kapler. Just end the season gracefully SF. And let Zaidi blue ball the fanbase one more time.

[mytreds]

I’m stealing this from twitter user Sons of Johnnie LeMaster-

Top 3 worst FA contracts in the Farhan #sfgiants era:

Tommy La Stella, 3 yrs/$18.75M
Anthony DeSclafani, 3 yrs/$36M
Mitch Haniger, 3 yrs/$43.5M

Cant wait for another year of Zaidi.

[Cobra Mgr]

A's one game away from clinching the worst record in the league after KC somehow swept the Astros in Houston. Stros are now 2.5 behind the Rangers. Texas magic # is 4. Toronto is 2 ahead of Houston for the WC. M's half a game behind Houston for the final spot. They start a 3 game series Monday in Seattle.

(It'd be nice to see Seattle get a sweep & Keep Houston home this October.)

Milwaukee still hasn't clinched the Central & needs a win or Cubs loss to do so. Chicago has a one game edge over Miami for the final WC slot. Cincy lurks 2.5 games behind. Zona plays the Yanks tomorrow afternoon then go visit the WSox. Cubs visit the Braves, Marlins visits the Mets.

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by mytreds

I’m stealing this from twitter user Sons of Johnnie LeMaster-

Top 3 worst FA contracts in the Farhan #sfgiants era:

Tommy La Stella, 3 yrs/$18.75M
Anthony DeSclafani, 3 yrs/$36M
Mitch Haniger, 3 yrs/$43.5M

Cant wait for another year of Zaidi.

That sounds rather cheap. Uncle Steve burns that sort of money every time he goes out for breakfast in New York...

[mytreds]

Originally Posted by Westheim

That sounds rather cheap. Uncle Steve burns that sort of money every time he goes out for breakfast in New York...

If you’ve seen any of those player play, they should be making much much less.

[Cobra Mgr]

What are the odds that all of a plate ump's missed calls go against one team?

[Westheim]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

What are the odds that all of a plate ump's missed calls go against one team?

0.0488% (0.5^11)

Then again, in a regular season with 2,430 games, the chance for such a game (or worse) *not* occurring would be (2*0.0488% because that's the limit for an umpire making an infinite number of bad calls, all against one team):

(1 - 2*0.0488%)^2430 = 9.3%

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

What are the odds that all of a plate ump's missed calls go against one team?

The Tigers had a game the other day where the ump missed something like 12 calls and 10 were against Detroit. It happens.

[kq76]

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

What are the odds that all of a plate ump's missed calls go against one team?

It depends. Do they have money on the game?

As Westheim points out, it's ridiculously small. It's even smaller than it may appear as he put a % sign at the end. I was thinking it was even smaller than .0488. It's not even a half of a tenth of 1%.

EDIT: In case the smiley doesn't make it clear, I'm not saying the ump is crooked. The chances are extraordinarily small, but they're still of course in the realm of possibility. What's not though.