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Also, check on the HISTORICAL tab that the date shown is correctly corresponding to your current year. I have had trouble with it moving about, showing a nonsensical number after I pointed it to the mod DB.
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InteGREATed database updated
I have downloaded and ran Dr. Doom's converter to assign the NeL players to a team using the four clubs, BBB, CAG, HG and KCM. I am now trying to determine some settings when using this new db.
I am going to try without an amatuer draft since all players now have a team assigned. Last edited by djc; 10-17-2024 at 02:58 PM. |
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I've already made a version for myself that puts them on teams which is how I found the importance of adding that Teams.csv backstop. ![]()
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teams.csv
Are you talking about the BPF and PPF columns? There is also a FP column.
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Yes. Thanks for catch my typo, I am away from the file. It is batting park factor and pitching park factor. 100 all the way down on our parks as a backstop.
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LansdowneSt could you share your updated .csv files please.
I do have a question thought and keep in mind I'm not super familiar with OOTP. Since the NeL players are assigned to teams could the "use real historical transactions" be turned on? I'm running a replay without the amateur turned on. The problem here is there is not enough NeL players to keep their clubs fully stocked especially after the actual integreation year of 1947. So if the "use real historical transactions" is turned on it might help with the players who's career is on the cusp of the integreation. Second question if the "use real historical transactions" is turned on would players who debuted on a NeL club then after 1947 played on a MLB club move? Like Monte Irvin. Side note: what if the black players who debuted between 1947-1960ish were drafted into the NeL clubs just for this replay. I know that seems somewhat counterintuitive but that would help keep the clubs stocked. Or another idea would be to put the players who actually were picked up in the expansion draft on the NeL clubs prior to 1960? |
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![]() As to your immediate game, turning on real-lineups and transactions would compound your issue. Yes, the game would snatch Irvin from wherever he was and move him to the Giants as per the standard AL/NL timeline. That's also an additional file to heavily mod and it is easier just to play as you are (with rookies going to their first MLB team upon debut and real transactions off) and moving people as you need to so as to populate the NeL teams. Some players will debut not on teams but as FA - like Jackie who appears as a FA in 45 or 46 and not on the Dodgers in 47. I think if I were running a game and, since no one is appearing on the NeL teams as an organic process, I'd go through each team and release players from their reserve rosters into the FA pool. Then schedule a FA draft. Then eliminate the other teams from the teams picking in the draft. So, the NeL teams are picking X players from that pool each year. That seems doable even if I've never tried it. You can also move them directly onto teams via the player editor of course but if you can get a FA draft to work like described, that'd be more fun imo. As to making, say, Mays or Aaron debut organically onto of the NeL teams, you'd go to the two batting csvs and the two fielding csvs and change his team ID next to the stat lines to BBB for example instead of NY1 (or the Braves ID for Aaron) on all 6 of those csv files and boom, he will appear on the Black Barons as a debuted rookie. To get to those files, you need to use Doom's tool to open the histroical.database.odb and then edit and seal it up again. Or wait for them to show up as a Giant and Brave and move them/release them for a FA draft.
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There is no way to use real lineups with the 4 extra teams added to the league structure because it requires a non-historical schedule. With real lineups you need the as-played schedule for the game to reference those lineups for those teams on that day.
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Testing without amateur draft and no NeL clubs. Seems to work well. One thing I donÂ’t like about the game is always having to change the import and general strategic tendencies settings. ItÂ’s annoying should stick to my most recent settings. The NeL players seem to blend in well with the MLB players. Approximately 25% in mid 1930s.
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We have made some updates. If you are on FastSpring version or want to download the Mod manually, use the link in the first post to get the updated version.
We updated the Steam Workshop version too. IF you have already subscribed to the mod, go to the item in the OOTP25 Workshop and select download item again to get the updated files, and then reinstalll them from the workshop. For the steam version I have already updated the 3 versions of the era_ballparks mod. Remember that you should subscribe to those and download all of them so that you can toggle them from within the OOTP25 Workshop. 1. We corrected some bad data points for SAC and HBP for some batters and some wrong GS values for a couple pitchers. 2. We removed a couple duplicate IDs of players who appeared in both the NeL Mod and MLB so that you only get one copy of them in your game. 3. We corrected the Philadelphia (NL) team name in 1882 to Quakers instead of Athletics, because in 1882 the Philadelphia (AL) Athletics team also comes into the league, and this was causing there to be two teams named Philadelphia Athletics in the league for the 1882 season before Philadelphia (NL) switched to the Quakers. This was never actually causing a problem with the game, but it did not look good to have two teams with the exact same name. We also added the jerseys/ballcaps/pants for the 1882 Philadelphia Quakers. 4. We added 8 more ballparks to the 19th century structure that will load when using the updated era_ballparks files. New Ballparks 1. 23rd Street Grounds 2. Avenue Grounds 1876-1879 3. Capitoline Grounds 4. Cleveland National League 5. Newington Park 6. Oakdale Park 7. Oriole Park 1883-1889 8. Oriole Park 1889-1891 Special thanks to asrivkin and dfswans for their continued work on creating these 19th century stadiums. When using this mod, you will have actual 19th century mod stadiums load for every season for the new 19th century structure. I am including a historical draft cheat sheet in this post with all players by debut season, including the NeL players, ranked by WAR. Last edited by Garlon; 11-17-2024 at 03:48 PM. |
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Thanks for that. Is it OK to update the files for saves already in progress without causing any problems?
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Yes, it won’t disrupt any ongoing games.
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I had that problem too in one season. The game said there were 381 draftees and none showed up on the eligible players screen. It isn't easy to draft players when you can't see their names or stats. I can't get to my draft screen now, but when the draft list screen comes up, there are 4 tabs above it. The second tab from the left had some filter turned on that prevented the names from showing. I simply cleared the tab (I think by clicking on "default") and the names reappeared instantly.
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Would this database be helpful for my setup?:
- started as a historical game in 1921 with no color barrier - historical minors - promotion/regulation format and new players enter as free agents (no drafts to discourage tanking) - no automatically expanding the league |
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@LansdowneSt - Do you guys have an idea of how long it will be once OOTP26 is released before this mod is part of the steam workshop for OOTP26? Absolutely love the work you guys have done.
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LansdowneSt, so I take what Lukas talks about here for OOTP26 is not based on your work, i.e. Chalek MLE translations?
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