2022-2023 NBA Season Thread - Page 5

thehef · 12-09-2022, 05:38 PM

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... LeBron's mom used to come in to buy stuff at the in-store coffee shop. She was not the nicest person in the world. But I guess if I had grown up in grinding poverty and then produced a son who became one of the greatest and richest athletes in the world, I would be a bit arrogant too.

Respectfully... I think someone like that should be among the most gracious and cheerful. Many people start out in poverty or other less-than-desirable circumstances and some stay there, yet many, many of them are nice people. That James' mom went from extreme poverty to extreme wealth and is a bit of witch as a result simply does not speak highly of her. In most circumstances in life, there's no excuse for not treating other humans well. There's definitely no excuse for James' mom to be snotty or rude to other people, generally speaking. IMO.

And yes, we all have our bad moods and less-than-best moments. And yes, rich people get bugged (and worse) by other humans. I'm not talking about those scenarios. I'm talking about how you treat a clerk or waitress at a grocery store or coffee shop, when it costs you nothing to be nice.

Déjà Bru · 12-10-2022, 11:08 AM

Watch this move that Zion Williamson makes at the end of the Pelicans victory over the Suns. A 360-degree dunk! He no longer looks fat to me. How would you like to be able to do this?

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The Suns definitely did NOT like it, however.

rudel.dietrich · 12-10-2022, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Watch this move that Zion Williamson makes at the end of the Pelicans victory over the Suns. A 360-degree dunk! He no longer looks fat to me. How would you like to be able to do this?

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The Suns definitely did NOT like it, however.

You would normally just dribble out the clock. But I will defend Zion here. He seems like a genuinely nice kid and I think he finally feels like after almost 18 months of his body letting him down that he feels good and as good as he did at Duke.

Also, the Suns and Chris Paul are some of the fakest tough guys in the league and Paul has been an irritant and a bitch his entire career.
Hard to feel bad for them.

Syd Thrift · 12-11-2022, 03:58 PM

So the Mavericks decided to walk into Chicago without Luka… and they walked out with the Bulls, a team that once had this guy named Michael Jordan on it, setting a team record for most points in a half against them with 82. You know it’s a blowout when Tony Bradley gets in the game.

Antonin · 12-12-2022, 07:35 PM

It was nice during the Cavs vs Kings game to see our old friend Mike Brown at the helm for Sacramento and our old friend Matthew Dellavedova as a player on that team. Dellavedova is one of those guys who will never have to buy a beer whenever he visits Cleveland.

Back when he played for the Cavs one downtown souvenir shop carried a Matthew Dellavedova brand coffee.

I was sad to learn of the death of Grant Wahl. i remember his Sports Illustrated article on LeBron. At the time I never paid attention to any hype regarding upcoming draftees. When the Sports Illustrated article came out it caused a sensation. I remember clearly one afternoon asking a co-worker: "So...this LeBron James kid...is he really THAT good?" My co-worker gave me a long look and said: "Yes...he is."

Antonin · 12-12-2022, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

You would normally just dribble out the clock. But I will defend Zion here. He seems like a genuinely nice kid and I think he finally feels like after almost 18 months of his body letting him down that he feels good and as good as he did at Duke...

I feel bad for Pelicans fans because Zion has been struggling to stay healthy. Before he was drafted he was described as the next LeBron James, but he is not nearly as durable as LeBron was in his early years.

rudel.dietrich · 12-12-2022, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonin

I feel bad for Pelicans fans because Zion has been struggling to stay healthy. Before he was drafted he was described as the next LeBron James, but he is not nearly as durable as LeBron was in his early years.

That is a high expectation to live up to. But Zion is really good. Like all NBA good. He is also fun to watch, I think it would be in the best interest of all basketball fans for him to stay healthy.

dsvitak · 12-12-2022, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That is a high expectation to live up to. But Zion is really good. Like all NBA good. He is also fun to watch, I think it would be in the best interest of all basketball fans for him to stay healthy.

I would have loved to see Zion as an NFL tight end, or Michael Jordan as a 6'5" wide receiver.

monkeyman576 · 12-13-2022, 11:06 AM

Kudos to the NBA for naming the MVP award after Jordan and not LeBron.

Syd Thrift · 12-13-2022, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That is a high expectation to live up to. But Zion is really good. Like all NBA good. He is also fun to watch, I think it would be in the best interest of all basketball fans for him to stay healthy.

I just don't like the comparison because he's not really a Lebron type of player. I'd call him more of Charles Barkley.

rudel.dietrich · 12-13-2022, 05:39 PM

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I just don't like the comparison because he's not really a Lebron type of player. I'd call him more of Charles Barkley.

He has a lot of comps. Barkley was not as athletic. But he was. Much better rebounder and a good shooter out to about 18 feet.

Larry Johnson is another good comp.
As is Blake Griffin, Griffin became a good shooter with work

I don’t ever see Zion becoming a good shooter. But he also shoots 62% and all his shots come at the rim and no one can stop him.
He is also a good and creative passer when the Pelicans let him handle the ball.

I would have to dig back in time a bit to see if I could find another player who was his size but with his athleticism and being able to finish at the rim.

Syd Thrift · 12-13-2022, 05:49 PM

Ben Simmons haha but Zion has Barkley issues on defense rather than being a Ben Simmons level defender.

Déjà Bru · 12-16-2022, 12:21 PM

This guy Bol Bol, 7' 2" power forward for the Orlando Magic, is freaky. Watch him do a fancy spin move on his way to the basket. The crowd almost "brought the roof down"!

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Still in doubt? Watch these moves:

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The son of Manute Bol but rather a runt of the litter. Manute was 7' 7".

Syd Thrift · 12-16-2022, 02:29 PM

Manute also liked to shoot 3s towards the end of his career.

Bol Bol has had a really hard time making it in the modern NBA because I think people look at his body and just think he's going to be another Priest Lauderdale or something, and that actual Manute Bol / Mark Eaton role no longer exists. He's had to establish himself as a legitimate scoring threat in his own right - which TBF he's done this year I think - as well as a guy who can get up and down the floor without slowing the entire game down.

It's weird the direction the NBA has taken in the last decade...

rudel.dietrich · 12-16-2022, 04:16 PM

Bol Bol is a great story
I really liked him at Oregon. He has injury and foot issues while at Oregon.
The Nuggets took a chance on him and drafted him but almost never played him because they are a good team.
Esepcially in the front court.

He only played 53 games and 238 minutes for Denver.
For injury and depth issues

He was traded to Detroit but it was voided due to him failing the physical.

He was then in a much larger trade and ended up on Boston.
He never played for him as he was rehabbing a foot injury.

He was flipped to Orlando in February a month after being traded to Boston.

It looked him his career may be over and be would be a G-League guy doing 10 days or playing overseas.

Then this season happened.
I am not sure what he is, but he has a place in the modern NBA. Even if the Magic get good, I think he has a place He is a big who can shoot and rebound and defend the rim.
If can stay healthy, then he can stick around for a long while

Déjà Bru · 12-16-2022, 04:26 PM

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If can stay healthy, then he can stick around for a long while

That's the thing. Those long arms and legs ...

rudel.dietrich · 12-16-2022, 05:12 PM

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That's the thing. Those long arms and legs ...

He is for sure not built like a regular human

Amazin69 · 12-17-2022, 08:43 PM

I'm surprised that Bol Bol still gets disrespected for his physique, given that the sort of paint-eating brutes who made his father an afterthought are pretty much extinct in the era of "3 and D".

Okay, I might be slightly bitter because the game that fairly wrecked my sports betting career (mentioned in another thread) was the Knicks going into Oakland and whacking the Warriors, with Patrick Ewing basically using his big butt to knock Manute into the 3rd row and putting up 44 points in a game that wasn't even close. But still.

(The Warriors also had Ralph Sampson on that team. "The Thin Towers" they were called, in a play on Houston's "Twin Towers" of Ralph and Hakeem Olajuwon. It didn't help.)

Déjà Bru · 12-19-2022, 09:09 AM

Knicks? STRK W7?

rudel.dietrich · 12-19-2022, 04:00 PM

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Knicks? STRK W7?

They are indeed a confusing team

12-10-2022, 11:08 AM	#82
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	Watch this move that Zion Williamson makes at the end of the Pelicans victory over the Suns. A 360-degree dunk! He no longer looks fat to me. How would you like to be able to do this? https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...part-late-dunk The Suns definitely did NOT like it, however. __________________ - Bru

12-12-2022, 07:35 PM	#85
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,544	It was nice during the Cavs vs Kings game to see our old friend Mike Brown at the helm for Sacramento and our old friend Matthew Dellavedova as a player on that team. Dellavedova is one of those guys who will never have to buy a beer whenever he visits Cleveland. Back when he played for the Cavs one downtown souvenir shop carried a Matthew Dellavedova brand coffee. I was sad to learn of the death of Grant Wahl. i remember his Sports Illustrated article on LeBron. At the time I never paid attention to any hype regarding upcoming draftees. When the Sports Illustrated article came out it caused a sensation. I remember clearly one afternoon asking a co-worker: "So...this LeBron James kid...is he really THAT good?" My co-worker gave me a long look and said: "Yes...he is." __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978 Last edited by Antonin; 12-12-2022 at 07:42 PM.

12-16-2022, 12:21 PM	#93
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	This guy Bol Bol, 7' 2" power forward for the Orlando Magic, is freaky. Watch him do a fancy spin move on his way to the basket. The crowd almost "brought the roof down"! https://twitter.com/OrlandoMagic/sta...-wembanyama%2F Still in doubt? Watch these moves: https://twitter.com/NBA/status/16013...-wembanyama%2F The son of Manute Bol but rather a runt of the litter. Manute was 7' 7". __________________ - Bru Last edited by Déjà Bru; 12-16-2022 at 12:40 PM.

12-19-2022, 09:09 AM	#99
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	Knicks? STRK W7? __________________ - Bru

12-13-2022, 11:06 AM	#89
monkeyman576 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,692	Kudos to the NBA for naming the MVP award after Jordan and not LeBron.

12-16-2022, 04:16 PM	#95
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Bol Bol is a great story I really liked him at Oregon. He has injury and foot issues while at Oregon. The Nuggets took a chance on him and drafted him but almost never played him because they are a good team. Esepcially in the front court. He only played 53 games and 238 minutes for Denver. For injury and depth issues He was traded to Detroit but it was voided due to him failing the physical. He was then in a much larger trade and ended up on Boston. He never played for him as he was rehabbing a foot injury. He was flipped to Orlando in February a month after being traded to Boston. It looked him his career may be over and be would be a G-League guy doing 10 days or playing overseas. Then this season happened. I am not sure what he is, but he has a place in the modern NBA. Even if the Magic get good, I think he has a place He is a big who can shoot and rebound and defend the rim. If can stay healthy, then he can stick around for a long while

12-17-2022, 08:43 PM	#98
Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	I'm surprised that Bol Bol still gets disrespected for his physique, given that the sort of paint-eating brutes who made his father an afterthought are pretty much extinct in the era of "3 and D". Okay, I might be slightly bitter because the game that fairly wrecked my sports betting career (mentioned in another thread) was the Knicks going into Oakland and whacking the Warriors, with Patrick Ewing basically using his big butt to knock Manute into the 3rd row and putting up 44 points in a game that wasn't even close. But still. (The Warriors also had Ralph Sampson on that team. "The Thin Towers" they were called, in a play on Houston's "Twin Towers" of Ralph and Hakeem Olajuwon. It didn't help.)