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Old 01-11-2009, 02:21 AM   #81
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Not digging this list. The M's in the 80s were awful and the 80s roster ought to reflect that. I really, really don't know about putting Griffey on there, for instance, what with him being only associated with the team for a year in the 80s (and even that year being a 19-year-old Griffey who wasn't the same player we think of when we think of The Kid). Off the top of my head, here's what my team would be:

C - Dave Valle, Scott Bradley, Bob Kearney
1B - Alvin Davis
2B - Harold Reynolds, Julio Cruz
3B - Jimmy Presley
SS - Spike Owen
LF - Phil Bradley
CF - Dave Henderson
RF - Al Cowens, maybe Danny Tartabull if you don't associate him with Kansas City
DH - Richie Zisk

Other guys off the bench
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SS - Todd Cruz (only played a couple years, but was really well known while he was here)
OF - Glen Wilson
OF - Jay Buhner (he was here for 2 seasons)
2B - Harold Reynolds
OF - Gorman Thomas, if he's not already associated with the Brewers

Rotation
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Mark Langston
Mike Moore
Floyd Bannister
Jim Beattie
Mike Morgan

Bullpen
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CL - Bill Caudill
Ed Vande Berg
Edwin Nunez
Billy Swift
Rick Honeycutt

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I'm gonna do another hard luck 1980s team, the Seattle Mariners. Like the Rangers the later prospects save them.

Seattle Mariners

1. Floyd Banister
2. Omar Vizquel
3. Gary Mathews
4. Dave Burba
5. Rick Honeycutt
6. Jeff Leonard
7. Ken Griffey Jr.
8. Richie Zisk
9. Jeff Burroughs
10. Dave Henderson
11. Bud Black
12. Alvin Davis
13. Mike Moore
14. Eric Hanson
15. Randy Johnson
16. Edgar Martinez
17. Harold Reynolds
18. Tino Martinez
19. Milt Wilcox
20. Phil Bradley
21. Jay Buhner
22. Ivan Calderon
23. Mark Langston
24. Mike Moore
25. Gorman Thomas

On the bubble:
Juan Beniquez
Gene Nelson
Glenn Abbott
Tom Paciorek
Larry Anderson
Ron Roenicke
Darnell Coles
Todd Cruz
Bill Swift
Shane Rawley
Jim Presley
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:51 AM   #82
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Sid: The excercise here is not to get the players you would associate with the team but to choose the 25 best players... and then shuffle.

Thanks for pointing out Tartabull though, he was an oversight.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:59 AM   #83
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3 players where protected by 5 teams... the most for any player.
I think they where Fred Lynn, Al Oliver and John Candelaria.

170 player in common where protected making the draft just over 6.5 rounds.

I'm still working on the draft order.
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:17 AM   #84
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I'm gonna catch hell for this one but it look like the Yankees will have the #1 overall selection. This is probably indicitive of the large number of free agents they sign and prospects they trade. Tigers and Cubs will also get high selections.

While poor teams and teams with low turnover like the Brewers, Rangers and Mariners will be picking pretty low.

The average common protections was 16.5 per team.
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:37 AM   #85
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Assuming I dont make any changes to the protection list here is the draft order with the number of common protected players:
Yankees 22
Tigers 21
Cubs 20
A's 20
Giants 19
Dodgers 19
Indians 18
Red Sox 18
Pirates 18
Mets 18
Padres 17
Phillies 17
Cardinals 17
Expos 16
White Sox 16
Blue Jays 16
Angels 16
Reds 16
Braves 15
Rangers 14
Orioles 14
Mariners 13
Astros 13
Royals 13
Twins 11
Brewers 10
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:54 AM   #86
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Players in initial draft:
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Rick Aguilera
Doyle Alexander
Moises Alou
Larry Andersen
Brady Anderson
Jaoquin Andujar
Tony Armas
Harold Baines
Floyd Bannister
Jesse Barfield
Len Barker
Steve Bedrosian
Buddy Bell
Jay Bell
Juan Berenguer
Bud Black
Vida Blue
Burt Blyleven
Mike Boddicker
Bobby Bonilla
Tom Brunansky
Bill Buckner
Jeff Burroughs
Ivan Calderon
John Candelaria
Tom Candiotti
Steve Carlton
Gary Carter
Joe Carter
Ron Cey
Jack Clark
David Cone
Kal Daniels
Danny Darwin
Chili Davis
Mark Davis
Storm Davis
Andre Dawson
Doug DeCines
Jose DeLeon
Luis DeLeon
John Denny
Doug Drabek
Dave Dravecky
Leon Durham
Lenny Dykstra
Mike Easler
Dennis Eckersley
Mark Eichhorn
Darrell Evans
Sid Fernandez
Cecil Fielder
Rollie Fingers
Carlton Fisk
Mike Flanagan
George Foster
John Franco
Julio Franco
Damaso Garcia
Steve Garvey
Kirk Gibson
Rich Gossage
Ken Griffey
Kelly Gruber
Pedro Guerrero
Bill Gullickson
Brian Harper
Von Hayes
Rickey Henderson
Keith Hernandez
Willie Hernandez
Rick Honeycutt
Burt Hooton
Bruce Hurst
Danny Jackson
Reggie Jackson
Howard Johnson
Randy Johnson
Steve Kemp
Dave Kingman
Ron Kittle
Bob Knepper
Ray Knight
John Kruk
Lee Lacy
Mark Langston
Carney Lansford
Charlie Leibrandt
Al Leiter
Chet Lemon
Jeff Leonard
Sixto Lezcano
Fred Lynn
Bill Madlock
Mike Marshall
Dennis Martinez
Gary Matthews
Willie McGee
Fred McGriff
Kevin McReynolds
Kevin Mitchell
Joe Morgan
Mike Morgan
Lloyd Moseby
Jamie Moyer
Terry Mulholland
Dale Murphy
Eddie Murray
Randy Myers
Phil Niekro
Matt Nokes
Bob Ojeda
Al Oliver
David Palmer
Rafael Palmerio
Dave Parker
Lance Parrish
Larry Parrish
Pascual Perez
Ken Phelps
Tony Phillips
Dan Quisenberry
Willie Randolph
Johnny Ray
Jeff Reardon
Rick Reuschel
Jerry Reuss
Rick Rhoden
Jose Rijo
Pete Rose
Jerry Ruess
Nolan Ryan
Ryne Sandberg
Scott Sanderson
Steve Sax
Dan Schatzeder
Curt Schilling
Mike Scott
Tom Seaver
Ted Simmons
Don Slaught
Roy Smalley
Lee Smith
Lonnie Smith
Ozzie Smith
Zane Smith
Sammy Sosa
Dave Stewart
Rick Sutcliffe
Bruce Sutter
Don Sutton
Pat Tabler
Frank Tanana
Danny Tartabull
Garry Templeton
Mickey Tettleton
Bob Tewksbury
Gorman Thomas
Steve Trout
John Tudor
Andy Van Slyke
Frank Viola
Duane Ward
Gary Ward
Claudell Washington
Bob Welch
Ed Whitson
Milt Wilcox
Dave Winfield
Mike Witt
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:00 PM   #87
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Players in the draft not yet in the file:
Moises Alou
Brady Anderson
Jay Bell
Bobby Bonilla
Joe Carter
David Cone
Kal Daniels
Mark Davis
Doug Drabek
Lenny Dykstra
Sid Fernandez
Cecil Fielder
John Franco
Danny Jackson
Randy Johnson
John Kruk
Mark Langston
Al Leiter
Fred McGriff
Kevin McReynolds
Kevin Mitchell
Jamie Moyer
Terry Mulholland
Randy Myers
Matt Nokes
Rafael Palmerio
Curt Schilling
Zane Smith
Sammy Sosa
Mickey Tettleton
Bob Tewksbury
Frank Viola
Duane Ward

Link to hitters in the draft with ratings
Link to pitchers in the draft with ratings
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:01 AM   #88
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Transactions before the draft

By virture of being protected on one club but not another the following players have exchanged hands:
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Player            Team From         Team to
Terry Forster            Los Angeles        Atlanta
Kieth Moreland          Philadelphia        Baltimore
Greg Luzinski            Philadelphia        Baltimore
Terry Kennedy          St Louis             Baltimore
Jason Thompson        Detroit              Califonia
Geoff Zahn               Minnesota         Califonia
Steve Henderson       New York N       Chicago N
Brook Jackoby           Atlanta            Cleveland
Mel Hall                   Chicago N         Cleveland
Doug Jones              Milwaukee         Cleveland
Jesse Orosco            New York N       Cleveland
Bill Dawley               Cincinnati         Houston
Dan Driessen            Cincinnati         Houston
Bob Forsch               St Louis          Houston
Steve Balboni           New York A      Kansas City
Phil Garner               Pittsburgh       Los Angeles
Tim Leary                New York N      Milwaukee
Rob Deer                 San Francisco   Milwaukee
Donnie Moore           St Louis           Milwaukee
Pete Vuckovich        St Louis           Milwaukee
Mike Smithson          Boston            Minnesota
Joe Niekro               Houston          Minnesota
Ron Davis                New York A     Minnesota
Greg Gagne             New York A      Minnesota
Dan Gladden            San Francisco   Minnesota
Rex Hudler               New York A      Montreal
Hubie Brooks            New York N     Montreal
Dennis Rasmussen     California        New York A
Shane Rawley          Seattle          New York A
Jay Howell               Cincinatti       Oakland
Tommy John             New York A    Oakland
Glenn Wilson             Detroit          Philadelphia
Al Holland                San Francisco Philadelphia
La Marr Hoyt           Chicago A       San Diego
Craig Lefferts          Chicago N       San Francisco
Atlee Hammaker       Kansas City    San Francisco
Richie Zisk               Texas           Seattle
Charlie Hough          Los Angeles    Texas
Ellis Valentine          Montreal        Texas
Rance Mulliniks        Kansas City    Toronto
Mookie Wilson          New York N    Toronto
George Bell              Philidelphia    Toronto
Tom Henke              Texas           Toronto
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I'm happy with that - Toronto's outfield for the early 80's just got a huge bump in talent.
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