The European football thread - Page 411

Sdpm100 · 11-23-2006, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Is Aaron Hunt English??

No, he's German.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

No, he's German.

What a funny name for German.

zoraster · 11-23-2006, 03:28 AM

His mother is English. He turned us down though as far as international football is concerned.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 03:30 AM

Last 3 minutes..still 1-0 Werder Bremen.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 03:35 AM

My heart is about to stop...what a great match!!

bababui · 11-23-2006, 03:36 AM

Bremen Win!!!!

Sdpm100 · 11-23-2006, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Bremen Win!!!!

So now I can repeat what I had to edit out.

Chelsea can't moan about one decision, because they didn't score any goals themselves. And if you don't score, the last time I looked you can't win any games.

They really can't complain about losing because of it, and actually for once Mourinho (like Ferguson the previous night) didn't moan at the official (although he did make reference to it not being a free kick in his opinion).

bababui · 11-23-2006, 03:48 AM

Boy did that 90 minutes go fast. What a fun match to watch. Matchday 6 is lining up as an incredible 2 days of football!!

LFC1892 · 11-23-2006, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

What can you guys tell me about Cardiff city?

In my FM game as a very very exciting young American player was just signed by him.
Right from under the noses of the MLS

What do you want/need to know, thats not found here?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_City_F.C.

If anyones been to see them play,transfer rumors etc?

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

are all the names semi-modeled (only not modeled) after the North American team name way? [City Name then Nickname] only in revese? or is that just the way things came about?

Imma go ahead and assume these teams were created in the 1800s or early 1900s (though the Czars, WWI, & Communism make me think I may be right) and thus this is an incorrect guess.

Most were created in the early 1900's, if you look at most Eastern European teams they put their town/city name second, alot of European teams don't even have nicknames before or after their name ie Liverpool, Everton, Juventus etc and English teams rarely have nicknames in their names as most use City (City beng what it is City so not really a nickname as such), Athletic, United (Just a guess but I'd say United as something to do with the workers who formed the early teams)

Back to the Russian names most were made up of workers from companies ie Torpedo Moscow were formed from a car company, Lokomotiv Moscow were formed by rail workers, Dynamo Moscow were actually formed by the KGB and CSKA Moscow by the army obviousley these two teams dominated early Russian football, because if you were a good player they either made you play for them or sent you to the labor camps. A prime example was Eduard Streltsov who refused to play for either of them so was sent to a labor camp on trumped up rape charges, Streltsov is said to have been the greatest player who ever played some say if it hadn't been for the labor camp he would be bigger than Pele.

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

while I agree and have already said it, someone should point out that the free kick should never have happened

But they did have a sure penalty turned down when Heinze elbowed Jarosik.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

But they did have a sure penalty turned down when Heinze elbowed Jarosik.

Didnt your Mother teach you 'Two wrongs dont make a right'?

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I'm probably in his bad books now after wrecking his thread.

But as I said yesterday about Manchester United, you can't moan about a bad decision if it was. You get as many given to you that you don't complain about.

Correct, overall I think United over both games came out on top in dodgy decisions, penalty at Old Trafford should never have been a penalty, they got away with a strong case for a Celtic penalty the other night and got a penalty from a dodgy call again, yes Celtics free kick was a dodgy one but I think they deserved that bit of luck over both games.

Sdpm100 · 11-23-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Didnt your Mother teach you 'Two wrongs dont make a right'?

That is another thing that annoys me - when pundits or fans say the "referee gave a penalty to them as a make-up call for the one he gave us" (or a red card).
No he did not, and if this was ever true, that referee should be fired, as they have to officiate on what they've seen on the field. They can't just make up the decisions so as to even it up.

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Didnt your Mother teach you 'Two wrongs dont make a right'?

Nah she taught me that United are always right no matter if it's wrong

she's a United fan.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Correct, overall I think United over both games came out on top in dodgy decisions, penalty at Old Trafford should never have been a penalty, they got away with a strong case for a Celtic penalty the other night and got a penalty from a dodgy call again, yes Celtics free kick was a dodgy one but I think they deserved that bit of luck over both games.

Celtic was definitly screwed in the first game. Man U was screwed in the second game. But both teams had the chance to overcome the bad calls and they didnt.

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

That is another thing that annoys me - when pundits or fans say the "referee gave a penalty to them as a make-up call for the one he gave us" (or a red card).
No he did not, and if this was ever true, that referee should be fired, as they have to officiate on what they've seen on the field. They can't just make up the decisions so as to even it up.

I agree it shouldnt happen but it also happens all the time if american football and basketball as well. Maybe its just human nature to want to make up for a mistake.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Nah she taught me that United are always right no matter if it's wrong

she's a United fan.

Spoken like a real fan. But why your Mum is a Man United fan is beyond me.

bababui · 11-23-2006, 12:42 PM

SDPM..you will be pleased to know that FM2007 much more realistically models weather. I had few matches played on rainy pitches in FM2006..now many. While its more realistic, it also causes more injuries.

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by theasfl

I thought they won a European Cup previously? Pre-Group stage? or am I wrong on the Cup or have they not won anything?

What you have to think of since UEFA changed it to Champions League nobody thinks there was a European Cup history before this, Celtic were the first British club to win the European Cup (Champions League) when they beat Inter in 66/67 they also lost in another final in 69/70 to Feyenoord after extra time, also got to the semi final in 71/72 losing on penalties to Inter, they again reached the semi final in 73/74 when they lost to Athletico Madrid, also throw in a couple of quarter finals.

Also when they won they became the first and up to now the only team to win with a team full of home grown players, I don't think the Celtic team of the late 60's early 70's gets the credit they deserve simply because people look down their noses at Scottish football.

ukhotstove · 11-23-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Spoken like a real fan. But why your Mum is a Man United fan is beyond me.

Alot of people her age are United fans as it was the time of the Busby Babes.

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zoraster Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 197	His mother is English. He turned us down though as far as international football is concerned.