Historical database issues go here.

[rpriske]

The 25 games are pointing to the 25 version of the location, not 24.

The 24 games are pointing to 24 (like in your screen shot).

I can manually re-point it to 24, but I am concerned because that is not what has happened on previous years.

(I have been playing these games more than one year. The 24 db is not where they were originally created, but they are migrated every year.)

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

The 25 games are pointing to the 25 version of the location, not 24.

The 24 games are pointing to 24 (like in your screen shot).

I can manually re-point it to 24, but I am concerned because that is not what has happened on previous years.

(I have been playing these games more than one year. The 24 db is not where they were originally created, but they are migrated every year.)

Our posts crossed each other. Keep it pointing to 25 - but when you compare the contents of the stats file in 24 versus 25 (that's the contents in the screenshot) are all the same files in the 24 view the same names at the ones in the 25 view? BTW: To see the contents via a pop up in 25, go to the historical tab in the league settings as it moved from 24's former Wizard location.

[rpriske]

Oh, I get what you are saying. I thought you were asking about the path, not the contents.

I have double checked and the contents are exactly the same as yours.

Could it be because I changed the name of my league save?

Because I had to manually copy my league over to the v25 folder (this is something you jus that etc do on a Mac, per instructions), when I try to import I have to use a different name since they are in the same folder.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

Oh, I get what you are saying. I thought you were asking about the path, not the contents.

I have double checked and the contents are exactly the same as yours.

Could it be because I changed the name of my league save?

Because I had to manually copy my league over to the v25 folder (this is something you jus that etc do on a Mac, per instructions), when I try to import I have to use a different name since they are in the same folder.

Fun with macs. I know that stuff is a challenge. That renaming certainly could matter. What names did you change and why was there two if it? I could certainly see that leading to it expecting to find something in a file path with one name but what it is seeking is in a slightly different path (due to the renaming). But others have not had this so something is different here - I assume it's the renaming as I am also assuming that's not part of the mac migration instructions (the renaming).

[rpriske]

Update: there is one different file in the stats folder of 25 vs 24.

stats_player_teams.odb is in 25 but not 24.

The reason I have to change names is that I have to copy the old save game into 25. So I f I named it Blue Jays ('77), when I try to import the game as Blue Jays ('77) it says there is already a game called that there. So I renamed it Blue Jays (1977).

I had to do that with all my games, but only the two that started as Historical games have this issue.

[LansdowneSt]

The additional 25 one doesn't concern me. Had there been an extra one in 24, it would have.

So, you started a new clean game in 25 with the same name as the one that you are trying to being over from 24? If that's the case, rename it in 24 and then bring it over as that. Like "version 24" at the end. That might be cleaner than risking a misalignment of naming during a direct edit of a file name because then there is technically no name change. We're brainstorming, here, so that's my next thought.

Was it a similar renaming for the second historic game w/the issue?

[rpriske]

Still the same.

Unable to open the historical database file historical_database.odb in
/Users/killdeerfarm/Library/Containers/com.ootpdevelopments.ootp24r
Support/Out of the Park Developments/OOTP Baseball 24/stats'! Please
check your database path in Game Options/League Setup/Historical!

It is definitely there.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

Still the same.

Unable to open the historical database file historical_database.odb in
/Users/killdeerfarm/Library/Containers/com.ootpdevelopments.ootp24r
Support/Out of the Park Developments/OOTP Baseball 24/stats'! Please
check your database path in Game Options/League Setup/Historical!

It is definitely there.

Can you even open the imported 25 game enough to get here: Game Options/League Setup/Historical?

I imported a historical 24 game of mine. I selected the game, selected the world .dat file, and gave it a name (a different name too) - note this in Windows. It worked. When I went to my imported game and checked the settings in bold above it shows that it is (properly) reading the stats folder in the 25 directory (right-hand side). Can you get to that screen, or does it fail to load before you even get there?

The message says it can't open the 24 stats folder - but it ought to be pointed to 25. So, if you can get to Game Options/League Setup/Historical you can then try to manually point it to the odb file therein.

[rpriske]

The game loads. I just get that error. If it can't read the historical db, I don't want to continue and potentially lose my game when it runs into next year's draft, etc.

It says it is reading the 25 historical db.

Is it possible that there isn't a problem and it is the ERROR message that is the error, so to speak?

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by rpriske

The game loads. I just get that error. If it can't read the historical db, I don't want to continue and potentially lose my game when it runs into next year's draft, etc.

It says it is reading the 25 historical db.

Is it possible that there isn't a problem and it is the ERROR message that is the error, so to speak?

Well, one way to check that would be to do a full back-up (as opposed to the standard save) and sim out 5 years or something. Then if it looks good, go through the restoration of a back-up process. If want to be extra careful copy the .dat files of the save and put them in a folder off to the side as a double back-up. Keep in mind that the game is still there, of course in OOTP24 untouched by any action taken to sim it forward to check too.

We've about exhausted all the things I can think of.

[rpriske]

Well absolutely thank you for your help.

That is a good idea and I will try that.

[LunchBox]

the 2016 Binghamton Mets are still missing from the Eastern League in historical database and therefore do not show up in the game

[omg_pwnasaurus]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

It seems like displaying the draft before the end of the season is bugged. The players should show up once the season is over.

We'll take a look at this before long.

Wanted to confirm as well that it is a bug imo. In previous versions I would set my historical draft to Nov 1 (to avoid it messing up QO or FA comp stuff too late into offseason) and set the reveal date to May 5 because I like prepping for the draft and that gives me a lot of time to stare at the Nov class.

That always worked before as intended. In '25, the pool is empty on reveal day when it is set to a different value than default and the email received about the reveal itself has the standard 2 links in it, one to the pool itself and one to the mock draft.

The mock draft link points to the draft order and the pool link just points to the empty pool. The email itself is also missing the top 10 draftees. Seems to be related to changing the reveal date to a value other than default, if that helps any.

[10ozbud]

When first year player draft comes up no players are there.

[rpriske]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Well, one way to check that would be to do a full back-up (as opposed to the standard save) and sim out 5 years or something. Then if it looks good, go through the restoration of a back-up process. If want to be extra careful copy the .dat files of the save and put them in a folder off to the side as a double back-up. Keep in mind that the game is still there, of course in OOTP24 untouched by any action taken to sim it forward to check too.

We've about exhausted all the things I can think of.

Alas, it did not work.

I simmed ahead to the next draft and all of the players in the draft pool were fictional.

[sprague]

Wanted to let Marcus know the problem with negro league pitchers being too good still remains.
All setup default out of the box


Can see the post at
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=353146

[omg_pwnasaurus]

Originally Posted by 10ozbud

When first year player draft comes up no players are there.

This is likely the same bug as the above. Not sure if this made it into this recent patch or not as part of the "future draft pools" change listed. Maybe dev can confirm.

Edit: Created a new league with the new patch and the draft pool reveal bug is present

[sprague]

I see a problem with development potential values for pitchers in the editor.
Take 1890 as an example, and the three pitchers come in with very realistic real ratings, but all of their potential ratings are terrible. Cy Young is awful
If one is playing a development game this will have a great impact on the history-playing recalc it wont, but such ratings would still affect how the AI would draft pitchers in a recalc game.
There is no such problem for batters

[Lukas Berger]

A lot of the stuff that's been getting posted here is just kind of randomly historical gameplay related stuff. All of which is legitimate and needs answers, but the idea behind this thread is to have a place to gather actual data issues for us to fix.

So for stuff like the path being off or the potentials issue, in the future if you can post those in their own thread in bug reports that would be helpful. That way we can keep this thread to actually data related issues and it can be a little easier to keep track of those and not lose them in a lot of extra posts. Not to mention easily losing track of some of the other issues too.

Thanks!

[Linus]

Originally Posted by sprague

I see a problem with development potential values for pitchers in the editor.
Take 1890 as an example, and the three pitchers come in with very realistic real ratings, but all of their potential ratings are terrible. Cy Young is awful
If one is playing a development game this will have a great impact on the history-playing recalc it wont, but such ratings would still affect how the AI would draft pitchers in a recalc game.
There is no such problem for batters

I'm having the same issues. For instance, I have Bobby Jones with good current numbers but terrible Potential numbers. He's not the only one. I have to go through the draft pool and reverse their numbers to make them more usable in the game.