TotalMinors For OOTP5: Beta Version Released - Page 4

magicmike · 03-02-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

. . . the Batchthumbs program is being a real PITA.

I ran into the same thing. In playing around with the program I discovered that it worked fine if I converted no more than around 220 images at a time. Instead of selecting the entire file to convert at once, go into the window that displays the list of jpeg images and click/drag/select smaller groups of them, like maybe all the a's through c's, then all the c's through e's, etc. Convert them in smaller batches like this and it should be okay.

enuttage · 03-02-2003, 11:02 PM

Hey, hey.

Thanks a ton! Working like a charm.

-E

x94blair3 · 03-02-2003, 11:11 PM

Hey GForce. Should I assume at some point in this proceeding you're planning on naming all the minor leaguers? I'm familiar with your work with HH rosters, and I know how thorough you are, just curious since you mentioned expanding to 30 prospects per team if you plan to fill out the whole minors (as far as the game will allow.

I think you are, you were just elaborating on releases in the "near future"

Either way, keep up the good work, I know how time consuming these are.

Later,

Nick

GForce22 · 03-02-2003, 11:25 PM

Hey Nick,

Basically, I'm going to do this in stages. That's why there will be several versions. With a new baby as of Tuesday and a recovering wife, I really don't know how much time there will be. So it's like doing 10-15 more prospects per team each stage until I ultimately have 25 man rosters at each level. I just want to keep churning out updates in case time becomes too short to continue, then I'll pass it on to someone else. But I am in pretty good shape right now so for now things look good. With each release I will update guys as to how far the next release will go.

GH

x94blair3 · 03-02-2003, 11:30 PM

Cool..thanks, I figured as much. That's certainly the best way to handle it I'm sure.

Congrats on the family addition and if you decide you need some data entry help or anything, let me know via PM or something.

Later,

Nick

holyroller · 03-03-2003, 01:05 AM

bump

GForce22 · 03-03-2003, 12:43 PM

Hey all,

A status report and a couple of things:

I have added all missing players from the 40-man rosters
I have starting entering my ratings with proper split adjustments as well. I am through the first name C's. Much more to do, but I got to this quicker than I thought I would. I know it's important, so I'm trying to push it as much as I can.
Little adjustments (Dreifort, K. Brown, J.T. Snow, a few minor touch-ups)
For v1 I will add proper managers, coaches and minor league managers and team names as well. I may not get to the manager tendencies until v2 though.
Hitter splits will be done before pitcher splits, but they will both eventually be done. It may just be a gradual process working toward Opening Day.

Probably some other things I'm forgetting. I hope to have v1 Sunday, but it depends on time so give me some leeway. If I think I'll be able to squeeze something else in if I hold it until Tuesday, for example, I'll do so.

Any questions please let me know.

Something else, though. It seems people are really happy with the set for the most part, which is great. And guys seem to acknowledge that it's still being developed, which I also appreciate. But when you say something like "I see some repeat players" or "these huge prospects are rated badly" PLEASE give the examples. If I know something is wrong I will GLADLY fix it. That doesn't mean I'll agree with all the disagreements, but if I at least know something is in question I'll certainly take a look. Just don't be vague when you mention these things. You guys test these better than I can because I'm developing more and more and adding stuff. You're using them, so you see more than I do. Tell me what you see so I can make it all it should be.

Thanks!

GH

LedgerSko · 03-03-2003, 12:54 PM

First of all I want to say nice work. Here are a few complaints I have. Now I havent looked over the file in full but I was just noticed a few things.

Josh Beckett, isnt much better than average now, at least in talent and ratings. Yes he didnt have a tremendous year last season but remember he is 22. Is he that much worse than he was at the start of '02?

Brad Penny. He sucks now. Like Beckett he didnt have a tremendous year but he is surely better than the 3 or whatever he is in ERA, and he is 24.

J.D. Drew - Was last season a fluke or a sign of the times? He had a great 2001 and a crappy 2002. At least the ratings could reflect the average of the 2 seasons instead of the crap 2002. Also he was injured quite a bit wasnt he?

Rick Ankiel - Not even on the game. He at least should be in there. The kid still has a boat load of talent.

Corey Patterson - Same story. Not a stellar rookie campaing and all of a sudden he will NEVER be any good. He was the top prospect in baseball for 2-3 years and he doesnt have a groundbreaking rookie campaing and he isnt any good.

Bobby Hill - Same thing as Patterson.

Thats all for now

GForce22 · 03-03-2003, 01:20 PM

Skodog,

ahhh...ok. The major league guys haven't been adjusted yet. I thought you were talking minor leaguers. Ankiel has been added for v1. I was thinking of him as a default guy from the 2002 database but he didn't play so he wasn't there. Same oversight as Dreifort for me.

Basically, Markus sent me rosters from the 2002 import from Lahman and asked me to touch up what I could but most specifically to add minor leaguers as much as I could. So the minor leaguers were the focus. I touched up what I called "short-use" MLB guys from last year, with either less than 150 ABs or 30 IP. But with everything with my wife and baby the last week to 10 days, on top of work, I didn't have time to do the major leaguers, so their numbers are based on 2002 for now. They WILL be fixed by the Opening Day release. Just bear with me.

Thanks for explaining. The specifics help me either fix or explain what happened.

GH

spleen1015 · 03-03-2003, 01:26 PM

Gregg, Barry Bonds needs to be better. He should be a 26 in HR against lefties, not 25.

This is purely, 100% a joke. Please do not take this post seriously, not even this disclaimer.

GForce22 · 03-03-2003, 01:30 PM

LOL!!! Thanks, Spleen. Needed the laugh (had to work today and didn't get to see my son this morning

) Hopefully he'll be home soon and I can spoil him for 2 weeks straight off from work

I have NO problem with legitimate questions or ratings discussions. I'll always have a reason for a rating (though many in this case are simply that time didn't allow me to get to them yet). That's what I need specifics. If I know the issue I can explain it.

GH

jpenn44 · 03-03-2003, 01:32 PM

Ok, here is what I see for the Cardinals (my team, so I know them best) Granted, since they are my team, my opinions might be a bit biased, but here goes:

SP Matt Morris - Ratings are a bit low, especially hits. Career .259 average against, Career ERA 3.18.
SP Simontachi - Hits are low. Only one year to base on, but .253 average against.
C Matheny - Defense is way low.
2B Vina - Range is too low.
3B Rolen - Doubles are too low.
SS Renteria - Range is too low.
OF Puljols - Has a SS rating.
CF Edmonds - Range is low
RF Drew - Low across the board.

Everything else looks good, other than some salaries which I already know you know about. Thanks for all your time and effort.

x94blair3 · 03-03-2003, 01:46 PM

I'm not sure I'm fully understanding this process...but is there even any point in discussing major leaguers till Gforce completes the compilation of everyone's 3 year stats?

I haven't bought the game yet, or played an old version, but won't all the ratings for guys "change" after their 3 year totals are input?

If I'm correct (a long shot for sure), we should only be discussing the minor league prospects.

Sorry if I'm wrong

As always, if you get desperate and need data entry or research help, let me know. I'm not looking for any glory, just love stats and accuracy. Your roster set is one reason I've managed to talk myself out of purchase for the time being.

-Nick

GForce22 · 03-03-2003, 01:46 PM

jpenn,

see the notes about regarding these ratings. They'll be looked over (though I have no idea why Pujols imported with a SS rating)

GH

spleen1015 · 03-03-2003, 01:48 PM

Pujols played 2 innings at SS in 2002.

jpenn44 · 03-03-2003, 01:48 PM

Gotcha, I always hated people who didn't read the whole thread before posting...now I'm one of those...

Actually Puljos had 2 defensive innings at SS this year..no clue why though, but I'm sure that's where it came from...

So as far as the minors go, they all look pretty accurate.

GForce22 · 03-03-2003, 01:51 PM

wow...2 innings gets him a rating. That's pretty funny!

One thing about minor leaguers, guys. Don't go by the stars. Check his actual ratings. The stars value some things a bit differently than we might (looking at the top 100 shows that...some guys are behind guys I actually rated them better than for one reason or another).

GH

x94blair3 · 03-03-2003, 01:57 PM

I'll assume since there was no response to my theory that I'm wrong. I'll slink back into the corner

Sorry about that.

-Nick

MizzouRah · 03-03-2003, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpenn44
Ok, here is what I see for the Cardinals (my team, so I know them best) Granted, since they are my team, my opinions might be a bit biased, but here goes:

SP Matt Morris - Ratings are a bit low, especially hits. Career .259 average against, Career ERA 3.18.
SP Simontachi - Hits are low. Only one year to base on, but .253 average against.
C Matheny - Defense is way low.
2B Vina - Range is too low.
3B Rolen - Doubles are too low.
SS Renteria - Range is too low.
OF Puljols - Has a SS rating.
CF Edmonds - Range is low
RF Drew - Low across the board.

Everything else looks good, other than some salaries which I already know you know about. Thanks for all your time and effort.

I'm in agreement here. We have the best infield in the NL!

Oh well, I'm playing with the Betas anyway.

Todd

Lancer010 · 03-03-2003, 02:28 PM

For people who are using these rosters, can you Output each Team's Players and Top 100 Prospects? Thanks in advance.

I want to know what I'm getting here

03-03-2003, 01:05 AM	#66
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	bump __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

03-03-2003, 01:32 PM	#72
jpenn44 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 81	Cardinals ratings. Ok, here is what I see for the Cardinals (my team, so I know them best) Granted, since they are my team, my opinions might be a bit biased, but here goes: SP Matt Morris - Ratings are a bit low, especially hits. Career .259 average against, Career ERA 3.18. SP Simontachi - Hits are low. Only one year to base on, but .253 average against. C Matheny - Defense is way low. 2B Vina - Range is too low. 3B Rolen - Doubles are too low. SS Renteria - Range is too low. OF Puljols - Has a SS rating. CF Edmonds - Range is low RF Drew - Low across the board. Everything else looks good, other than some salaries which I already know you know about. Thanks for all your time and effort.

03-03-2003, 01:46 PM	#73
x94blair3 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 99	I'm not sure I'm fully understanding this process...but is there even any point in discussing major leaguers till Gforce completes the compilation of everyone's 3 year stats? I haven't bought the game yet, or played an old version, but won't all the ratings for guys "change" after their 3 year totals are input? If I'm correct (a long shot for sure), we should only be discussing the minor league prospects. Sorry if I'm wrong As always, if you get desperate and need data entry or research help, let me know. I'm not looking for any glory, just love stats and accuracy. Your roster set is one reason I've managed to talk myself out of purchase for the time being. -Nick __________________ Pudge, R. White, Guillen, Vina, J. Johnson, Urbina....maybe Illitch remembered he owns a baseball team. Either that or he expects a looooonnnnggg NHL holdout.

03-03-2003, 01:57 PM	#78
x94blair3 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 99	I'll assume since there was no response to my theory that I'm wrong. I'll slink back into the corner Sorry about that. -Nick __________________ Pudge, R. White, Guillen, Vina, J. Johnson, Urbina....maybe Illitch remembered he owns a baseball team. Either that or he expects a looooonnnnggg NHL holdout.

03-03-2003, 02:28 PM	#80
Lancer010 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 171	For people who are using these rosters, can you Output each Team's Players and Top 100 Prospects? Thanks in advance. I want to know what I'm getting here __________________ "I broke my back" -- Mike Tyson Avatar Free Since April, 2002

03-02-2003, 11:02 PM	#62
enuttage Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hill Country Posts: 2,431	Hey, hey. Thanks a ton! Working like a charm. -E

03-02-2003, 11:11 PM	#63
x94blair3 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 99	Hey GForce. Should I assume at some point in this proceeding you're planning on naming all the minor leaguers? I'm familiar with your work with HH rosters, and I know how thorough you are, just curious since you mentioned expanding to 30 prospects per team if you plan to fill out the whole minors (as far as the game will allow. I think you are, you were just elaborating on releases in the "near future" Either way, keep up the good work, I know how time consuming these are. Later, Nick

03-02-2003, 11:25 PM	#64
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Hey Nick, Basically, I'm going to do this in stages. That's why there will be several versions. With a new baby as of Tuesday and a recovering wife, I really don't know how much time there will be. So it's like doing 10-15 more prospects per team each stage until I ultimately have 25 man rosters at each level. I just want to keep churning out updates in case time becomes too short to continue, then I'll pass it on to someone else. But I am in pretty good shape right now so for now things look good. With each release I will update guys as to how far the next release will go. GH

03-02-2003, 11:30 PM	#65
x94blair3 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 99	Cool..thanks, I figured as much. That's certainly the best way to handle it I'm sure. Congrats on the family addition and if you decide you need some data entry help or anything, let me know via PM or something. Later, Nick

03-03-2003, 12:43 PM	#67
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Hey all, A status report and a couple of things: I have added all missing players from the 40-man rosters I have starting entering my ratings with proper split adjustments as well. I am through the first name C's. Much more to do, but I got to this quicker than I thought I would. I know it's important, so I'm trying to push it as much as I can. Little adjustments (Dreifort, K. Brown, J.T. Snow, a few minor touch-ups) For v1 I will add proper managers, coaches and minor league managers and team names as well. I may not get to the manager tendencies until v2 though. Hitter splits will be done before pitcher splits, but they will both eventually be done. It may just be a gradual process working toward Opening Day. Probably some other things I'm forgetting. I hope to have v1 Sunday, but it depends on time so give me some leeway. If I think I'll be able to squeeze something else in if I hold it until Tuesday, for example, I'll do so. Any questions please let me know. Something else, though. It seems people are really happy with the set for the most part, which is great. And guys seem to acknowledge that it's still being developed, which I also appreciate. But when you say something like "I see some repeat players" or "these huge prospects are rated badly" PLEASE give the examples. If I know something is wrong I will GLADLY fix it. That doesn't mean I'll agree with all the disagreements, but if I at least know something is in question I'll certainly take a look. Just don't be vague when you mention these things. You guys test these better than I can because I'm developing more and more and adding stuff. You're using them, so you see more than I do. Tell me what you see so I can make it all it should be. Thanks! GH

03-03-2003, 12:54 PM	#68
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	First of all I want to say nice work. Here are a few complaints I have. Now I havent looked over the file in full but I was just noticed a few things. Josh Beckett, isnt much better than average now, at least in talent and ratings. Yes he didnt have a tremendous year last season but remember he is 22. Is he that much worse than he was at the start of '02? Brad Penny. He sucks now. Like Beckett he didnt have a tremendous year but he is surely better than the 3 or whatever he is in ERA, and he is 24. J.D. Drew - Was last season a fluke or a sign of the times? He had a great 2001 and a crappy 2002. At least the ratings could reflect the average of the 2 seasons instead of the crap 2002. Also he was injured quite a bit wasnt he? Rick Ankiel - Not even on the game. He at least should be in there. The kid still has a boat load of talent. Corey Patterson - Same story. Not a stellar rookie campaing and all of a sudden he will NEVER be any good. He was the top prospect in baseball for 2-3 years and he doesnt have a groundbreaking rookie campaing and he isnt any good. Bobby Hill - Same thing as Patterson. Thats all for now

03-03-2003, 01:20 PM	#69
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Skodog, ahhh...ok. The major league guys haven't been adjusted yet. I thought you were talking minor leaguers. Ankiel has been added for v1. I was thinking of him as a default guy from the 2002 database but he didn't play so he wasn't there. Same oversight as Dreifort for me. Basically, Markus sent me rosters from the 2002 import from Lahman and asked me to touch up what I could but most specifically to add minor leaguers as much as I could. So the minor leaguers were the focus. I touched up what I called "short-use" MLB guys from last year, with either less than 150 ABs or 30 IP. But with everything with my wife and baby the last week to 10 days, on top of work, I didn't have time to do the major leaguers, so their numbers are based on 2002 for now. They WILL be fixed by the Opening Day release. Just bear with me. Thanks for explaining. The specifics help me either fix or explain what happened. GH

03-03-2003, 01:26 PM	#70
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	Gregg, Barry Bonds needs to be better. He should be a 26 in HR against lefties, not 25. This is purely, 100% a joke. Please do not take this post seriously, not even this disclaimer.

03-03-2003, 01:30 PM	#71
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	LOL!!! Thanks, Spleen. Needed the laugh (had to work today and didn't get to see my son this morning ) Hopefully he'll be home soon and I can spoil him for 2 weeks straight off from work I have NO problem with legitimate questions or ratings discussions. I'll always have a reason for a rating (though many in this case are simply that time didn't allow me to get to them yet). That's what I need specifics. If I know the issue I can explain it. GH

03-03-2003, 01:48 PM	#75
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	Pujols played 2 innings at SS in 2002.

03-03-2003, 01:51 PM	#77
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	wow...2 innings gets him a rating. That's pretty funny! One thing about minor leaguers, guys. Don't go by the stars. Check his actual ratings. The stars value some things a bit differently than we might (looking at the top 100 shows that...some guys are behind guys I actually rated them better than for one reason or another). GH