The World of Football/Soccer. - Page 32

Muppetus Galacticus · 12-04-2009, 12:39 PM

Pot A are the seeded teams, the other pots are based on their regions. South Africa as the host nation get to go in Pot A despite being the lowest ranked team in the competition.

jbergey22 · 12-04-2009, 01:14 PM

Thanks MG

USA got a decent draw there as did Mexico.

Muppetus Galacticus · 12-04-2009, 01:26 PM

Group A
South Africa
Mexico
Uruguay
France

Group B
Argentina
Nigeria
South Korea
Greece

Group C
England
USA
Algeria
Slovenia

Group D
Germany
Australia
Serbia
Ghana

Group E
Holland
Denmark
Japan
Cameroon

Group F
Italy
Paraguay
New Zealand
Slovakia

Group G
Brazil
North Korea
Ivory Coast
Portugal

Group H
Spain
Switzerland
Honduras
Chile

molarmite · 12-04-2009, 02:31 PM

Seems like the US and England should easily be able to advance. Although I kinda wish we would've been in Group F.

phightin · 12-04-2009, 02:38 PM

If the US can't advance then they don't deserve to be there. I just wanted to wish Spain the best of luck in the round of 16 as well.

thehatfield · 12-04-2009, 02:39 PM

Really pleased with the draw. Can't wait for England... anyone know anything about midfielders Sal Zizzo or Bryan Arguez who're playing in Germany? Do they have a chance of making the squad?

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ukhotstove · 12-04-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Cowboy

Really pleased with the draw. Can't wait for England... anyone know anything about midfielders Sal Zizzo or Bryan Arguez who're playing in Germany? Do they have a chance of making the squad?

I'd say doubtfull, looking at the present USA squad it looks pretty settled with most having got to double figures appearance wise.

rudel.dietrich · 12-04-2009, 08:56 PM

The US press sure looks hopeful about the draw. However with how inconsistence the USA is the games against Algeria and Slovenia are not sure things.

Algeria is a good side with most of it's players playing in Europe and Slovenia advanced out of UEFA and anytime you can make a WC out of Europe that is a achievement.

dsvitak · 12-04-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

The US press sure looks hopeful about the draw. However with how inconsistence the USA is the games against Algeria and Slovenia are not sure things.

Algeria is a good side with most of it's players playing in Europe and Slovenia advanced out of UEFA and anytime you can make a WC out of Europe that is a achievement.

The US is a hugely better side than Slovenia, or Algeria.

I believe that the US is even competitive with England.

Nothing is a sure thing..but you are a classic example of people talking trash about the US, with not a goddamn thing to back it up.

mlyons · 12-04-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Cowboy

Really pleased with the draw. Can't wait for England... anyone know anything about midfielders Sal Zizzo or Bryan Arguez who're playing in Germany? Do they have a chance of making the squad?

The only uncapped player in Germany with a shot at making the US World Cup squad is Jermaine Jones.

Cooleyvol · 12-04-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsvitak

The US is a hugely better side than Slovenia, or Algeria.

I believe that the US is even competitive with England.

Nothing is a sure thing..but you are a classic example of people talking trash about the US, with not a goddamn thing to back it up.

Dude, we're not on the same level as England. Don't kid yourself.

Tommysixfingers · 12-05-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsvitak

The US is a hugely better side than Slovenia, or Algeria.

I believe that the US is even competitive with England.

Nothing is a sure thing..but you are a classic example of people talking trash about the US, with not a goddamn thing to back it up.

A bit of an overreaction if you ask me. How exactly did he trash talk the U.S?

I do agree with you though as I also think that the U.S has a better squad than both Algeria and Slovenia. There is still a leap to get to England's level imo though. Having said that, nothing is a sure thing as you put it, and the group is an interesting one to say the least.

Muppetus Galacticus · 12-05-2009, 04:43 PM

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rudel.dietrich · 12-05-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

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I will probably drop some Euros on Germany. I like those odds. Not much of a investment for a fun payout. It will at least pay for the celebration drinks.

rudel.dietrich · 12-05-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsvitak

The US is a hugely better side than Slovenia, or Algeria.

I believe that the US is even competitive with England.

Nothing is a sure thing..but you are a classic example of people talking trash about the US, with not a goddamn thing to back it up.

I did not talk trash about the US. I stated that they are inconsistent which is true.
The US also has a very poor record when they play away from North America. To go far in the WC you also have to play European teams which the US is also has a poor record against.
They received a good group pairing but all of the positive talk in the press about a cake walk is unwarranted.

rudel.dietrich · 12-05-2009, 09:35 PM

Germany also got a sweet draw. Good teams but all are winnable games. Serbia scares me a little but they have not looked good as of late.
Ghana may be a boost playing on African soil.
Australia is hard to judge since they come out of Asia.

Skipaway · 12-06-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Serbia scares me a little but they have not looked good as of late.

I thought they never looked good until lately.

Skipaway · 12-06-2009, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

The US also has a very poor record when they play away from North America. To go far in the WC you also have to play European teams which the US is also has a poor record against.

You mean the US used to play poorly against European teams in Europe? The team did just beat Spain in Africa.

phightin · 12-06-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

I did not talk trash about the US. I stated that they are inconsistent which is true.
The US also has a very poor record when they play away from North America. To go far in the WC you also have to play European teams which the US is also has a poor record against.
They received a good group pairing but all of the positive talk in the press about a cake walk is unwarranted.

I agree the US is inconsistent, and their group won't be a cake walk, but all things considered it is by far the easiest draw the US has ever had in a world cup and expectations and coverage of the National team have never been higher. Granted project 2010 didn't quite achieve the goal of putting the US in a position of winning a world cup, but what it has done is assemble the best Men's National team the US has ever had, and put them in a positon where they could foreseeably make a run into the semi-finals. The USSF and MLS are in a unique situation because a great showing in this world cup would serve to further advance the MNT and League even more so and put them in a position where they could surpass the NHL/Hockey, as they already have in Seattle etc throughout parts of the country.

Also the US has been inconsistent mostly when performing in EUROPE not other parts of the world. South Africa will be a much easier enviorment than Germany or Mexico City, Costa Rica etc, and they did fine there earlier in the year so it won't be an issue.

The bottom line is for the first time in history the US is going into a world cup with a chance of being able to beat and pull off a win against any team in the tournament, and has an amount of respect throughout the rest of the world that has not previously been there so yes they should be expected to advance out of their group and beat Slovenia and Algeria who they are better than.

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molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,919	Seems like the US and England should easily be able to advance. Although I kinda wish we would've been in Group F. __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [

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thehatfield All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: dirty jerz Posts: 1,339	Really pleased with the draw. Can't wait for England... anyone know anything about midfielders Sal Zizzo or Bryan Arguez who're playing in Germany? Do they have a chance of making the squad? __________________ AFBL - Maryland Bridegrooms SBC - Western Suburbs Magpies no pressure no problem

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phightin All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 581	If the US can't advance then they don't deserve to be there. I just wanted to wish Spain the best of luck in the round of 16 as well.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	The US press sure looks hopeful about the draw. However with how inconsistence the USA is the games against Algeria and Slovenia are not sure things. Algeria is a good side with most of it's players playing in Europe and Slovenia advanced out of UEFA and anytime you can make a WC out of Europe that is a achievement.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Germany also got a sweet draw. Good teams but all are winnable games. Serbia scares me a little but they have not looked good as of late. Ghana may be a boost playing on African soil. Australia is hard to judge since they come out of Asia.