what the best pro football sim to get? - Page 3

Dan Theman · 09-17-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by originalgamer

Love FOF, currently have 2004, its great. Whats maximum football? Never heard of that.

Think of a souped-up, modular version of FPSFB Pro. It's got the same look with the in-game screens, and you can set up pretty much any type of league you'd like. It's not released yet, but it apparently will be sometime in the near future (or at least relative to video game timelines).

www.maximum-football.com

Check that link out for more info

thevat · 02-11-2005, 07:33 PM

That game looks fantastic. Bummer it's not out yet. Hopefully it won't be too long before we see it.

Pope Callistus · 02-14-2005, 02:13 AM

Division Rivals is still having a ways to go in its development curve, but its worth checking out, especially since the guys making it are major FPS FBPro fanatics

echolodge · 03-01-2005, 12:15 AM

Another football simulation game that is worth a try is PC Action Football. The game offers current seasons and many past seasons from the NFL as well as many college teams. It offers the option of quick sims or playing every down or fast-forwarding to a certain point in a game. You can create players. It has a draft function for simulating a college draft with mythcal players that are rated. I would rate it as a 8 on a scale of 10 as far as realism. I haven't played extensively, but it is a quality game overall with the inevitable imperfections all sim games have.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-01-2005, 02:26 AM

Action PC has been discussed and has some merit, IMO the short-coming of the game is the weak career mode otherwise it is a pretty good game for strategy, etc.

phenom · 03-01-2005, 08:27 AM

maybe with the latest version, but anything 2003 or older is crap, IMO, for Action! PC.

jbmagic · 03-01-2005, 01:36 PM

for older version 2002 was a great version because it had online league on it.

for current version go with 2004 or 2005

sflcat · 03-01-2005, 02:16 PM

For career - FOF combined with TCY (allows you to follow college players' complete careers before importing them into your pro league). Only drawback...lack of flexibility as far as league structure (you're limited to NFL-style 32 teams set up in two conferences of four four-team divisions).

For replay - probably Action PC. You can set up your leagues and schedules however you want. You can create or edit players. Drawback -- if you buy prepackaged past seasons, you can wind up paying quite a lot of $$$. I've heard some good things about 2nd & 10...but I haven't personally tried it.

For eye-candy - Right now, I'd give a slight edge to ESPN over Madden. It's close though, and Madden seems to let you customize a few more things than ESPN. Both games feature career modes. However, I find both rather tedious IMO.

Maximum Football -- It seems like I've heard this game hyped for almost five years now. Is the thing ever going to be released?

echolodge · 03-25-2005, 10:15 AM

Has anyone tried the latest version (with latest patch) of Total Pro Football? Is it worth the 30 bucks? I read a review that claims the offensive stats are about 20% inflated compared to the NFL. Is it easy to create/edit teams and players to real NFL players/teams and are databases available?

echolodge · 04-28-2005, 11:51 PM

Dead silence regarding Total Pro Football...which I did buy and am enjoying, although in very limited actual playtime so far.

After reading the glowing posts about Football Pro 98 by Sierra, I bought a copy on EBAY and am closely monitoring the mailbox for its arrival.

Bobble · 04-29-2005, 09:19 AM

I downloaded the demo of Total Pro Football and played around with it for the last three days. Couple of things:

- Is it me or is the PBP flat and repetitive? "Screen pass to Brooks... And he's got 53 yards." I'm expecting a little more variety and more excitement.

- Is it me or is the play resolution wonky? I threw a crapload of screen passes and was routinely getting 10+ yards. Conversely, I'd get about 8 or 10 runs in a row that went for 1 yard or less.

- Is it me or is this software just a touch buggy? Draft picks would disappear and reappear. I could have sworn I set my depth chart only to tell me it wasn't. I have to re-pause the draft to get the draft going again. Only one lock up but a certainly a few hiccups.

- Is it me or does that game speed slider have a hair trigger? OK, this is a bit slow. I'll slide it over just ooooonnnnnneeee notch. Flash, flash, game over. Same thing with the draft.

- Is it me or did they do a great job on the draft? I love the presentation, the trading, the player pictures, the announcer, etc. The whole thing is done very well.

- Is it me or is this a dead game? I didn't see too many mods or leagues being played. I didn't see too much buzz on their board. Got the impression I was playing Ghosttown Pro Football.

I'm not too optimistic about the near future. Maximum Football seems to be VERY slow in coming and would have only a rudimentary career mode. Madden is essentially for joystick jockeys only.

Dan Theman · 04-29-2005, 11:31 PM

Maximum Football is actually going to have a full-blown career mode, which is why it's been delayed until this fall. I'm not holding out serious hope that it's going to be the Holy Grail of football sims, but I still think it's going to be a good game.

streetballer67 · 04-30-2005, 12:13 AM

Bobble,
Buzz on the board will continue to be minimal but Arlie surprised all by releasing a patch just the other day. I don't play the games out so the pbp gripes don't bother me. Just played through my first season (in about three months) and the offensive stats don't seem too bad to me but the LBs in this game seem freakish. They can get 154 tackles, 11 sacks, and 10 interceptions with some regularity. Love the draft and yes the game is a bit buggy but it is without question playable.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-30-2005, 12:55 AM

Was a patch released for TPF the other day? Link?

Steve Kuffrey · 04-30-2005, 01:01 AM

Dola,

Never mind, found it.

jbmagic · 05-02-2005, 01:06 PM

Total Pro Football

Arlie did another patch today. Its version 1.43 now. 5/2/05

http://66.193.175.87/redist/tpf_patch_143.exe

"It fixes this issue http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/f...1&postcount=19

As well as a couple other issues from a while back that people sent me emails on:"

Bobble · 05-02-2005, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetballer67

Bobble,
Buzz on the board will continue to be minimal but Arlie surprised all by releasing a patch just the other day. I don't play the games out so the pbp gripes don't bother me. Just played through my first season (in about three months) and the offensive stats don't seem too bad to me but the LBs in this game seem freakish. They can get 154 tackles, 11 sacks, and 10 interceptions with some regularity. Love the draft and yes the game is a bit buggy but it is without question playable.

I'm torn. I like the game quite a lot for the management aspects. I could probably live with the bugs and shortcomings but -- surprisingly for a guy who drops a lot of money on games without batting an eye -- I'm having trouble convincing myself that this game is worth $35. $20, sure. $35 when I know Madden, Maximum Football, and whatever GreyDog cooks up are on their way soon? Seems like too much.

boilermaker · 05-02-2005, 02:40 PM

I just got FoF 2004 a few weeks ago...I imagine it's the best out there and I think it's well worth getting...at the same time, I think the genre still has some miles to travel to reach the OOTP/EHM/FM plateau. Maybe it's just because FoF still has that Windows 95 look to it....

Kiko1313 · 05-04-2005, 01:22 PM

I haven't played FoF since it's EA days. It seemed like a pretty decent game at the time, but I stopped playing it because I could never keep my drafted players for very long. I would sign them for 3 years for instance, the contract would be up and suddenly they all want to re-sign for $7 million/year despite their highest rating in any category being around 20 out of 100 and haven't ever started a single game.

I've heard good things about the 2004 version so maybe I'll give it another try.

jtb · 05-04-2005, 11:52 PM

So, how is the new patch?

03-01-2005, 12:15 AM	#44
echolodge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 90	Football Sims Another football simulation game that is worth a try is PC Action Football. The game offers current seasons and many past seasons from the NFL as well as many college teams. It offers the option of quick sims or playing every down or fast-forwarding to a certain point in a game. You can create players. It has a draft function for simulating a college draft with mythcal players that are rated. I would rate it as a 8 on a scale of 10 as far as realism. I haven't played extensively, but it is a quality game overall with the inevitable imperfections all sim games have.

03-01-2005, 02:26 AM	#45
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Action PC has been discussed and has some merit, IMO the short-coming of the game is the weak career mode otherwise it is a pretty good game for strategy, etc. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-01-2005, 08:27 AM	#46
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,774	maybe with the latest version, but anything 2003 or older is crap, IMO, for Action! PC. __________________ reported

03-01-2005, 02:16 PM	#48
sflcat Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 119	For career - FOF combined with TCY (allows you to follow college players' complete careers before importing them into your pro league). Only drawback...lack of flexibility as far as league structure (you're limited to NFL-style 32 teams set up in two conferences of four four-team divisions). For replay - probably Action PC. You can set up your leagues and schedules however you want. You can create or edit players. Drawback -- if you buy prepackaged past seasons, you can wind up paying quite a lot of $$$. I've heard some good things about 2nd & 10...but I haven't personally tried it. For eye-candy - Right now, I'd give a slight edge to ESPN over Madden. It's close though, and Madden seems to let you customize a few more things than ESPN. Both games feature career modes. However, I find both rather tedious IMO. Maximum Football -- It seems like I've heard this game hyped for almost five years now. Is the thing ever going to be released? __________________ GM, Miami Sharks, IHOF Founder & President, SFL GM, Oklahoma Outlaws, GEFL Read my "Sports and History Dynasty"

03-25-2005, 10:15 AM	#49
echolodge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 90	Total Pro Football Has anyone tried the latest version (with latest patch) of Total Pro Football? Is it worth the 30 bucks? I read a review that claims the offensive stats are about 20% inflated compared to the NFL. Is it easy to create/edit teams and players to real NFL players/teams and are databases available?

02-11-2005, 07:33 PM	#42
thevat Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 177	That game looks fantastic. Bummer it's not out yet. Hopefully it won't be too long before we see it.

02-14-2005, 02:13 AM	#43
Pope Callistus Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6	Division Rivals is still having a ways to go in its development curve, but its worth checking out, especially since the guys making it are major FPS FBPro fanatics

03-01-2005, 01:36 PM	#47
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	for older version 2002 was a great version because it had online league on it. for current version go with 2004 or 2005

04-28-2005, 11:51 PM	#50
echolodge Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 90	Eagerly Awaiting Football Pro 98 in mail Dead silence regarding Total Pro Football...which I did buy and am enjoying, although in very limited actual playtime so far. After reading the glowing posts about Football Pro 98 by Sierra, I bought a copy on EBAY and am closely monitoring the mailbox for its arrival.

04-29-2005, 09:19 AM	#51
Bobble Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: High and outside Posts: 4,036	I downloaded the demo of Total Pro Football and played around with it for the last three days. Couple of things: - Is it me or is the PBP flat and repetitive? "Screen pass to Brooks... And he's got 53 yards." I'm expecting a little more variety and more excitement. - Is it me or is the play resolution wonky? I threw a crapload of screen passes and was routinely getting 10+ yards. Conversely, I'd get about 8 or 10 runs in a row that went for 1 yard or less. - Is it me or is this software just a touch buggy? Draft picks would disappear and reappear. I could have sworn I set my depth chart only to tell me it wasn't. I have to re-pause the draft to get the draft going again. Only one lock up but a certainly a few hiccups. - Is it me or does that game speed slider have a hair trigger? OK, this is a bit slow. I'll slide it over just ooooonnnnnneeee notch. Flash, flash, game over. Same thing with the draft. - Is it me or did they do a great job on the draft? I love the presentation, the trading, the player pictures, the announcer, etc. The whole thing is done very well. - Is it me or is this a dead game? I didn't see too many mods or leagues being played. I didn't see too much buzz on their board. Got the impression I was playing Ghosttown Pro Football. I'm not too optimistic about the near future. Maximum Football seems to be VERY slow in coming and would have only a rudimentary career mode. Madden is essentially for joystick jockeys only. __________________

04-30-2005, 12:13 AM	#53
streetballer67 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,004	Bobble, Buzz on the board will continue to be minimal but Arlie surprised all by releasing a patch just the other day. I don't play the games out so the pbp gripes don't bother me. Just played through my first season (in about three months) and the offensive stats don't seem too bad to me but the LBs in this game seem freakish. They can get 154 tackles, 11 sacks, and 10 interceptions with some regularity. Love the draft and yes the game is a bit buggy but it is without question playable. __________________ Visit Here!!!

04-30-2005, 12:55 AM	#54
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Was a patch released for TPF the other day? Link? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-30-2005, 01:01 AM	#55
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Dola, Never mind, found it. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-02-2005, 01:06 PM	#56
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	Total Pro Football Arlie did another patch today. Its version 1.43 now. 5/2/05 http://66.193.175.87/redist/tpf_patch_143.exe "It fixes this issue http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/f...1&postcount=19 As well as a couple other issues from a while back that people sent me emails on:" Last edited by jbmagic; 05-02-2005 at 01:27 PM.

05-02-2005, 02:40 PM	#58
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	I just got FoF 2004 a few weeks ago...I imagine it's the best out there and I think it's well worth getting...at the same time, I think the genre still has some miles to travel to reach the OOTP/EHM/FM plateau. Maybe it's just because FoF still has that Windows 95 look to it....

05-04-2005, 01:22 PM	#59
Kiko1313 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 129	I haven't played FoF since it's EA days. It seemed like a pretty decent game at the time, but I stopped playing it because I could never keep my drafted players for very long. I would sign them for 3 years for instance, the contract would be up and suddenly they all want to re-sign for $7 million/year despite their highest rating in any category being around 20 out of 100 and haven't ever started a single game. I've heard good things about the 2004 version so maybe I'll give it another try.

05-04-2005, 11:52 PM	#60
jtb All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 595	So, how is the new patch?