OOTPB Staff: Why no Graphics or Logos Forum? - Page 3

Cuss16 · 09-18-2003, 03:35 AM

they are at my forum.

check out how many logo requests we get per day. It's overwhelming. We are still doing some of the day one stuff.

kq76 · 09-18-2003, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by Cuss16
they are at my forum. check out how many logo requests we get per day. It's overwhelming. We are still doing some of the day one stuff.

Read the last couple paragraphs of my reply to TC Dale.

I'm sorry, but I'm bowing out of this discussion for the moment, I have some work I need to finish before morning.

Cuss16 · 09-18-2003, 03:43 AM

I see your point kq, nice talking with ya. Good luck with your work.

dbacks · 09-18-2003, 09:52 AM

Good points, kq.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 10:18 AM

Since I started this thread, here are a few views and comments:

First of all, I hope that Cuss16, dbacks and Shub, 3 great and generous graphics designers, have not been offended by me doing this thread. They did 80 wonderful logos for me that really added a lot to my leagues. I sincerely appreciate their efforts for the OOTPB Community.

I hope they have no ill feelings toward couriers, another person who generously contributes his thoughtful knowledge and wisdom to the OOTPB Community. He was not attacking them for setting up their website. He just feels OOTPB should provide a place for graphics.

As I stated earlier, all things OOTPB should be on the OOTPB Forums as much as possible. It should be the central source for logos, stadiums, mods and other things related to the game, as long as there are no licensing problems.

It would be nice and convenient...and good for gamers, especially "newbies"...not to have to go to ex-officio sites.
If everything was here, it would have saved me a lot of time searching and allowed me to enjoy the game more and sooner.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Eugene Church
Why does OOTPB not set up a Graphics or Logos Forum.

I would suggest that you take the "OOTPB Forum for older versions" and change it to the Graphics Forum. In my opinion that forum is little used and of little interest. Once a new version comes out, we forget about the old version.

If someone has an older version, they could always post in the OOTPB Comments and Feedback Forum. Just take the version number off and list OOTPB.

Maybe all of the great logo designers would come back if OOTPB organized the Mods Forum in a way that most of the Mods and Graphics enthusiasts would be happy with. I think my suggestion would accomplish this end.

This is my simple solution.

dbacks · 09-18-2003, 10:25 AM

Eugene, I see what you are saying, and there are no hard feelings whatsoever between any of us.

dbacks · 09-18-2003, 10:28 AM

I pm'd Steve last night, and hopefully he'll respond to this thread. I know he already told me that he wouldn't create a seperate forum, but I think he should read this thread, then make a decision.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 10:33 AM

dbacks:

What do the logo designers feel about this?

If OOTPB set up a graphics forum, would the designers periodically check it?

Would this cause Cuss16's site any harm?

dbacks · 09-18-2003, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Eugene Church
dbacks:

What do the logo designers feel about this?
Not too sure. I'm going to talk to cuss and Shub later today when I get home from school and find out

If OOTPB set up a graphics forum, would the designers periodically check it?
Probably

Would this cause Cuss16's site any harm?
Probably

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by scotto313
I ussually get pounded for my two cents but here it goes anyway. I like the idea of a graphics forum. I was very pleased with my OOTP game when I first got it but now that I have become better with my computer and am profficient with logos, stadiums and rosters It's like a new game. It really changes the complexities of the game. Let the poundings begin.

This is exactly how I feel. Graphics add something special to the game.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by TC Dale
The problem is with making a subforum is that these things go in spurts. We have a bunch in a matter of days, then nothing for a very long time. I have spoken to the creators about this at length, and even started a sub thread for folks to post their needs and wants, but no one followed it.

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Eugene's response to TC Dale:

(sorry, I'm stilling learning how to use quotes)

One thread gets too long and troublesome to read. The logo designers prefer short requests...1-3 requests at a time...they did 80 for me in three weeks that way.

As far as your suggestion to go to Ran and Cuss 16 sites:

I could be wrong, but Cuss16's Logo Requests forum doesn't respond as quickly as they did when they were here in the Mods section. They also don't seem to get as many requests...but I could be mistaken about this.

This is not being critical of the logo designers, who share their talent so generously, just a statement of opinion.

My above opinion about Cuss16 Graphics Forum is incorrect. See the apology below. They are just a lot busier now. I made my observation because I only checked the "Logo Requests" forum, which is only one small part of the Graphics Forum. After checking it out for 30 minutes, I discovered my opinion was totally wrong.

dbacks · 09-18-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Eugene Church
They also don't seem to get as many requests...but I could be mistaken about this.

Actually, we get more. That's why we don't seem to respond as quickly.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by couriers
Also, this forum used to be really active and one of the most exciting features of this board. The front page was always full of new threads for any given day from top to bottom and well into the second as well as the third page deep.

Now:

09-17-03 (8 threads)
09-16-03 (6 threads)
09-15-03 (3 threads)
09-14-03 (6 threads)
09-13-03 (2 threads)

This was unheard of not too long ago.

I totally agree with couriers. I don't enjoy the Mods page as much as when it had graphics requests. Another reason for a Graphics Forum in OOTPB.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by dbacks
Actually, we get more. That's why we don't seem to respond as quickly.

Sorry, I apologize, dbacks...I was totally wrong with that opinion.

I stand corrected. Please accept my apology.

Edit addition:

Boy, was I ever wrong. I spent the last 30 minutes perusing Cuss16 Graphics site. It is excellent.
I can see why you guys (logo designers) like it so much.
Until today I only checked the "logos requests" section on the site.
I got the incorrect opinion that you were not as responsive there as on OOTPB. I didn't realize you were doing other graphics on that site.

After really checking out the site, I stand even more corrected.
My apologies to all of you, again. I hope it will be there for a long time. It is special. I hope this has not caused you any harm.

Eugene Church · 09-18-2003, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by Eugene Church
Why does OOTPB not set up a Graphics or Logos Forum.

For the sake of continuity, OOTPB should want to host forums for all things important and useful to the game. If we lost Cuss' Graphics...if we lose OOTPLinks.com...and we might. We have suffered two great losses. Too often the non-OOTPB sites are here today and gone tomorrow.

This is my last suggestion at this time.

Hope OOTPB will respond and give its opinion...and decision.

scotto313 · 09-18-2003, 11:48 AM

The ability to "personalize" this game with additional graphics makes it so special. This should be "exploited" by the developers with a graphics forum. Just one man's opinion.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-18-2003, 02:43 PM

Oh quit your whining.......

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...?s=&forumid=72

Cuss16 · 09-18-2003, 02:53 PM

Thanks Steve.

Cuss16 · 09-18-2003, 02:59 PM

Okay now let's all go to the .400 forum and post the same thing...

09-18-2003, 03:35 AM	#41
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	they are at my forum. check out how many logo requests we get per day. It's overwhelming. We are still doing some of the day one stuff. __________________

09-18-2003, 03:43 AM	#43
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	I see your point kq, nice talking with ya. Good luck with your work. __________________

09-18-2003, 02:43 PM	#58
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Oh quit your whining....... http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...?s=&forumid=72 __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-18-2003, 02:53 PM	#59
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	Thanks Steve. __________________

09-18-2003, 02:59 PM	#60
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	Okay now let's all go to the .400 forum and post the same thing... __________________

09-18-2003, 09:52 AM	#44
dbacks Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,735	Good points, kq.

09-18-2003, 10:18 AM	#45
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,239	Since I started this thread, here are a few views and comments: First of all, I hope that Cuss16, dbacks and Shub, 3 great and generous graphics designers, have not been offended by me doing this thread. They did 80 wonderful logos for me that really added a lot to my leagues. I sincerely appreciate their efforts for the OOTPB Community. I hope they have no ill feelings toward couriers, another person who generously contributes his thoughtful knowledge and wisdom to the OOTPB Community. He was not attacking them for setting up their website. He just feels OOTPB should provide a place for graphics. As I stated earlier, all things OOTPB should be on the OOTPB Forums as much as possible. It should be the central source for logos, stadiums, mods and other things related to the game, as long as there are no licensing problems. It would be nice and convenient...and good for gamers, especially "newbies"...not to have to go to ex-officio sites. If everything was here, it would have saved me a lot of time searching and allowed me to enjoy the game more and sooner.

09-18-2003, 10:25 AM	#47
dbacks Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,735	Eugene, I see what you are saying, and there are no hard feelings whatsoever between any of us.

09-18-2003, 10:28 AM	#48
dbacks Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,735	I pm'd Steve last night, and hopefully he'll respond to this thread. I know he already told me that he wouldn't create a seperate forum, but I think he should read this thread, then make a decision.

09-18-2003, 10:33 AM	#49
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,239	dbacks: What do the logo designers feel about this? If OOTPB set up a graphics forum, would the designers periodically check it? Would this cause Cuss16's site any harm?

09-18-2003, 11:48 AM	#57
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	The ability to "personalize" this game with additional graphics makes it so special. This should be "exploited" by the developers with a graphics forum. Just one man's opinion.