Release Date & Purchasing Options? - Page 3

jmount78 · 03-10-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by agfan1

My question will probably be a dumb one but I will ask anyway. I saw some VISA and American Express cards that said they were debit but not credit cards. I presume these will work to buy the game with. Do we pay tax or not? Final question will be if two cards will work.

Very helpful comments to date but the original has gone unanswered because I would much rather purchase it in a store just so I have the physical CD.

The debit cards should work just fine as they are Visa or Master Card ones. These can be bought from Wal-Mart or anywhere else and you can keep adding money to them if you want.

As for taxes, I don't remember. I want to say no, but not sure. I also want to say that I too miss the days of buying my favorite games in their boxes as there is something nice about actually owning the physical game itself. But, those days are disappearing and it doesn't make much sense to cut into profit when you can go the digital download route.

BTW, I am surprised no one asked for the Intellivision version of the game.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-11-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by agfan1

I would just like a definitive answer from Markus whether it will be in retail stores not other users opinions about it.

OOTP 13 will NOT be available in stores. It will be available from our website and the Apple Mac AppStore, but nowhere else.

Cryomaniac · 03-11-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OOTP 13 will NOT be available in stores. It will be available from our website and the Apple Mac AppStore, but nowhere else.

Do you still have the option to get mailed a CD for like $10 extra?

Markus Heinsohn · 03-11-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Do you still have the option to get mailed a CD for like $10 extra?

Yes

agfan1 · 03-11-2012, 03:22 PM

Thank you to Markus for giving me the answer that I was looking for. I am not sure that is worth the extra money to get the CD but I will consider that option when I finally decide to order the game. I have loved the game for years and missed edition #12.

Biggio509 · 03-11-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

For your Atari 2600?

I want it for my 1983 Intellivision!

Biggio509 · 03-11-2012, 05:26 PM

I only remember one year it was in brick and mortar stores and on gamers gate and I think that was when OOTP was part of SI but I could be wrong on the year. Like was said before only big companies like Sony, Blizzard, or Paradox (big?) seem to still put out CD versions in brick and mortar stores. It is a lot of expense that could leave a company with a lot of unsold packages and CDs. I understand the relutance of some to order online from a small company but honestly I think it is the only way a small software company with 2 or 3 titles can do business. EA can eat the loss of unsold disk, packaging, and shipping. For a small developer like OOTP in a rather small market this is a big portion of profit. It is just hard to get a retailer like best buy to buy 1 million copies and have 500,000 or more sit on their shelves not selling. I don't like but the market is geared toward games that promote stick skills over management skills.

AESP_pres · 03-11-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggio509

I only remember one year it was in brick and mortar stores and on gamers gate and I think that was when OOTP was part of SI but I could be wrong on the year.

Didn't buy it in a store but the OOTP 2007 demo was on the CD I got when I bought NHL EHM 2007. This is how I discovered the game and got addicted in less than one hour

ashantewarrier · 03-12-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OOTP 13 will NOT be available in stores. It will be available from our website and the Apple Mac AppStore, but nowhere else.

Markus, not for nothing but will OOTP13 be available through Steam as well? I know previous versions were available for purchase and download via Steam if I'm not mistaken.

Cooleyvol · 03-12-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Do you still have the option to get mailed a CD for like $10 extra?

What value is that since after the first patch, the CD would have to be patched upon install anyway?

Cryomaniac · 03-12-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

What value is that since after the first patch, the CD would have to be patched upon install anyway?

Mostly because some people like owning a CD.

OutS|der · 03-12-2012, 10:19 AM

i still don't understand why one would pay an extra $10 for a cd when one could make their out cd containing the excutable file for almost nothing. Could include your league if you wanted to and have allot of room left over.

AESP_pres · 03-12-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

What value is that since after the first patch, the CD would have to be patched upon install anyway?

Take less time to re-install it if your hard disc crash than downloading it again if someone don't have an high speed connection...

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Originally Posted by OutS|der

i still don't understand why one would pay an extra $10 for a cd when one could make their out cd containing the excutable file for almost nothing.

Of course this make sense too. Unless somebody doesn't know how to do it or don't own a CD writer on his computer (wich is doubtfull in those days).

Cooleyvol · 03-12-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Mostly because some people like owning a CD.

This has no actual 'value'.

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Take less time to re-install it if your hard disc crash than downloading it again if someone don't have an high speed connection...

This does. Except that they're still going to have to download the latest patch.

Cornelius McGillicuddy · 03-12-2012, 01:26 PM

Nobody should have to download the game again. Everybody should backup every file they have. It's just common sense. I have an portable hard drive with about 230 gig of files. Most people don't have that much and can get an eight gig flash drive for about $15. I just can't believe how people post sometimes about a hard drive crash and they lost everything.

Cryomaniac · 03-12-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

This does. Except that they're still going to have to download the latest patch.

Patches are smaller than the main executable though. ~30MB compared to ~250MB for OOTP12 if I recall correctly, which could be quite a difference on a slow connection.

AESP_pres · 03-12-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

[...] which could be quite a difference on a slow connection.

It does... last year I was on a modem connection and it took me an entire night to download the game

At least a patch took more or less an hour to download.

At least now I'm back to an high speed connection

texasmame · 03-13-2012, 02:37 PM

Just got an email that said 4/6 for OOTP if you pre-ordered.

Sweet but damn, Markus! Bump it back a day (BoSox open on the 5th)!

03-11-2012, 05:26 PM	#47
Biggio509 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,027	I only remember one year it was in brick and mortar stores and on gamers gate and I think that was when OOTP was part of SI but I could be wrong on the year. Like was said before only big companies like Sony, Blizzard, or Paradox (big?) seem to still put out CD versions in brick and mortar stores. It is a lot of expense that could leave a company with a lot of unsold packages and CDs. I understand the relutance of some to order online from a small company but honestly I think it is the only way a small software company with 2 or 3 titles can do business. EA can eat the loss of unsold disk, packaging, and shipping. For a small developer like OOTP in a rather small market this is a big portion of profit. It is just hard to get a retailer like best buy to buy 1 million copies and have 500,000 or more sit on their shelves not selling. I don't like but the market is geared toward games that promote stick skills over management skills. Last edited by Biggio509; 03-11-2012 at 05:27 PM.

03-13-2012, 02:37 PM	#58
texasmame All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Planet Texas Posts: 1,643	Just got an email that said 4/6 for OOTP if you pre-ordered. Sweet but damn, Markus! Bump it back a day (BoSox open on the 5th)! __________________ Managing and rebuilding the 100-loss BURBANK BLACK BARONS. Defeated the TAIWAN EXPLOSIVE GO SALMON (99-63) in seven games to win the WORLD SERIES!

03-11-2012, 03:22 PM	#45
agfan1 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 7	Thank you to Markus for giving me the answer that I was looking for. I am not sure that is worth the extra money to get the CD but I will consider that option when I finally decide to order the game. I have loved the game for years and missed edition #12.

03-12-2012, 10:19 AM	#52
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,720 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	i still don't understand why one would pay an extra $10 for a cd when one could make their out cd containing the excutable file for almost nothing. Could include your league if you wanted to and have allot of room left over.

03-12-2012, 01:26 PM	#55
Cornelius McGillicuddy Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Playing the inside game Posts: 763 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Nobody should have to download the game again. Everybody should backup every file they have. It's just common sense. I have an portable hard drive with about 230 gig of files. Most people don't have that much and can get an eight gig flash drive for about $15. I just can't believe how people post sometimes about a hard drive crash and they lost everything.