Another update - Page 3

CD1083 · 04-05-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tigey75

Not to sound like a brown noser, but it's frustrating to me when I read that Markus still struggles to hire developers. How are so many people missing out on this game after so many years?

I know I might take a beating for this, but it seems like people are so lazy nowadays that they're afraid of OOTP. Why does a game like Mogul sell so many copies? It's such a dumbed down version of baseball. How can you be a true fan of the game and simply not care about waivers/rule 5 drafts/options..etc..etc...?

I guess in the end we actually benefit from OOTP still being relatively small, because we still have the actual developer commenting on these boards. I'm also shocked when I read the disrespectful posts people put on here even after they realize the developer DOES read them. Reading some of these rants just shows me how much of a pain it must be to run a small business without losing your temper and unleashing a swear-filled tirade response.

Baseball is a business. The intricacies you listed are above the head of many casual fans. Some people just want to trade, sign and sim. There is a reason why MLB console games don't make it more advanced than they do. It's not because they are unaware of the rules, they know that if you make a game too real you'll scare off the casual buyer.

OOTP is a niche market. The goal is to maximize your reach to people who would enjoy the game which is difficult without paying an arm and leg for ads on high traffic sites like ESPN. (Despite claims of ads on the site, I've never seen one.)

ricko · 04-05-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase Davis

ads on high traffic sites like ESPN. (Despite claims of ads on the site, I've never seen one.)

I've seen ads on Baseball Prosectus, FWIW...

tigey75 · 04-05-2011, 01:25 PM

I was excited to see version 11 on amazon.com, I hope that trend continues.

CoachDirty · 04-05-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

Yeah I know....it's all about the $$..not putting a product out in a timlely manner.

Wait...you mean Marcus is not running a non-profit?

CD1083 · 04-05-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachDirty

Wait...you mean Marcus is not running a non-profit?

You could have fooled me with these prices!!

Out of the Park Baseball: Pre-Order OOTP 12 for only $29.99

snnort · 04-05-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarcastro

I just stumbled upon OOTP a few weeks ago and got excited because I used to love EHM and love realistic sim games. At first I found it frustrating that there was no real release date as I was really anticipating playing the game. BUt someone here pointed out you can play OOTP 8 for free and thats been keeping me busy. Also most people here say it's worth the wait so i've thrown myself into version 8 and have been enjoying it. It's a great place to start and learn the system I think.

Anyway I'm happy to wait.

IF you are happy with OOTP 8... then OOTP 11 would blow you away... and OOTP 12 adds a number of things to an already very polished OOTP 11.

dj_morton · 04-05-2011, 06:19 PM

...you all blasted Cubby for not putting the roster pack out in a timely manner....how is this any different?

dj_morton · 04-05-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Just a technical question : How many infractions someone need before getting a temporary suspension or a permanent ban?

Maybe you should read the rules...4

CD1083 · 04-05-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

...you all blasted Cubby for not putting the roster pack out in a timely manner....how is this any different?

I did? I appologize. I'm such a hypocrite sometimes.

I hope I didn't do anything else stupid while sleep-posting...

fintach · 04-05-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

...you all blasted Cubby for not putting the roster pack out in a timely manner....how is this any different?

Who got "blasted" by whom over rosters? Are we still talking about OOTP?

CD1083 · 04-05-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fintach

Who got "blasted" by whom over rosters? Are we still talking about OOTP?

Cubbyfan23 is a modmaker. He posts mainly in the mod forums.

I guess everybody who has criticized DJ in here, also criticized CubbyFan over there. Who knew?

1998 Yankees · 04-05-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

LOL! Talk about drawing people a diagram...

david limbaugh · 04-05-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

We hired another programmer (Palli)... however, adding more is something we cannot afford at the moment. So, tell all your friends about OOTP so that we sell tons of copies, which would increase the chance of a very early release in the future.

Anyway, OOTP 13 is indeed planned for a February/March 2012 release...

Markus, since OOTP is to be played for either fictional leagues or replay for the most part, the release date in relation to opening day isn't really important to me and I have a hunch not that important to long-time OOTP players as well. Every release is tight enough that a person could just keep the one they have and enjoy it for years and years as long as the Lahman database keeps coming out each year.

I hope we can squeeze in a configurable/editable post-season in this release and maybe my scorecard idea :-)

Joe Canadian · 04-05-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

It's after opening day....it's late

/thread

NO. IT. IS. NOT.

I'm not here as much as I used to be, but every time I drop by to check for updates on OOTP there is a new thread where you keep insisting the game is late because Opening Day has come and gone. You're wrong. It's been explained to you numerous times by more than one person. People have even gone as far as to list the past release dates of the game, highlight the announcement in the newsletter, and even define what Spring is for you.

I'm not sure what you expect to accomplish with your campaign against this perceived lateness. Markus is clearly okay with the development schedule he has kept over the last decade, and 99% of users are fine with it as well. So please, give it a rest.

jabrown6940 · 04-05-2011, 09:02 PM

Well, now you've really gone and done it!
If OOTP13 isn't ready by 11:59:59PM on January 31, 2012...
It's late.

david limbaugh · 04-05-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

NO. IT. IS. NOT.

... Markus is clearly okay with the development schedule he has kept over the last decade, and 99% of users are fine with it as well. So please, give it a rest.

DITTO!!! And I just pre-ordered even though I have been telling myself not to until I make sure we get a configurable post-season this year just to support Markus's efforts....

dj_morton · 04-05-2011, 09:13 PM

How boring would the wait be if I wasn't ruffling y'alls feathers....

Cooleyvol · 04-05-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

...you all blasted Cubby for not putting the roster pack out in a timely manner....how is this any different?

Please link to my blasting of anyone over a roster pack or stop using the word all just to further your insignificant argument.

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Originally Posted by dj_morton

How boring would the wait be if I wasn't ruffling y'alls feathers....

Actually, your 'feather ruffling' is quite boring. Actually, I wouldn't say you're ruffling feathers, but rather that you're making a complete jackass of yourself.

AirmenSmith · 04-05-2011, 10:38 PM

I was thinking that maybe these update threads should all be locked so that the only post here is Markus. Just a thought.

Troy30 · 04-05-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I was thinking that maybe these update threads should all be locked so that the only post here is Markus. Just a thought.

I kinda find it entertaining lol.

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tigey75 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 308	I was excited to see version 11 on amazon.com, I hope that trend continues.

04-05-2011, 06:19 PM	#47
dj_morton Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Morehead City, NC/Barksdale AFB, LA Posts: 174	...you all blasted Cubby for not putting the roster pack out in a timely manner....how is this any different?

04-05-2011, 09:02 PM	#55
jabrown6940 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 270	Well, now you've really gone and done it! If OOTP13 isn't ready by 11:59:59PM on January 31, 2012... It's late.

04-05-2011, 09:13 PM	#57
dj_morton Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Morehead City, NC/Barksdale AFB, LA Posts: 174	How boring would the wait be if I wasn't ruffling y'alls feathers....